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[Covert Rain]

playing our style and playing center he should average 12-13 rebounds, not 9.

Completely disagree. He is playing out of position and our style predicates guys NOT CRASHING the boards. Change the system or move Amare to PF, and I bet his rebounding stats go up.

Also 12-13?? There are only 14 players in the NBA averaging more then 10. There are only 5 averaging more then 12 per game. I would say as long as Amare is around 10 rebounds per game, he is doing what he needs to do. Everybody considers Tim Duncan a good rebounder and he only averages 11 RPG. So 10 to 11 is right where Amare needs to be.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Amare is a potent offensive weapon with an injury history that indicates he cannot be expected to be a plowhorse. I like the way his minutes have been limited, perhaps he should be playing even less to conserve himself for games that matter. The suns have a big investment in amare for years to come. The "feed the beast argument" would increase the chances that amare would be too fatigued in the post season and perhaps shorten his career by reinjuring the knee. Amare is the only one on the "list" of top scorers/48 that has had a microfracture procedure. I say "keep the beast healthy", his time will come in april.

Negative, beasts get stronger when fed.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Rebounds Per 48M

 

[nowagimp]

Negative, beasts get stronger when fed.

maybe the beast gets more effective, but his knee does not get stronger by banging more. All this ridiculous stats production durning the regular season just makes the beast weaker come the playoffs.

 

[nowagimp]

Completely disagree. He is playing out of position and our style predicates guys NOT CRASHING the boards. Change the system or move Amare to PF, and I bet his rebounding stats go up.

Also 12-13?? There are only 14 players in the NBA averaging more then 10. There are only 5 averaging more then 12 per game. I would say as long as Amare is around 10 rebounds per game, he is doing what he needs to do. Everybody considers Tim Duncan a good rebounder and he only averages 11 RPG. So 10 to 11 is right where Amare needs to be.

Duncan proves its not about raw rebounding stats, sometimes a boxout without a personal rebound is better than a rebound. Guys that play with Duncan get more rebounds when Duncan boxes out. Amare(and other suns big men) needs to box out on defense more. If he does that, I dont care whether he has 9rpg or 11rpg.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

maybe the beast gets more effective, but his knee does not get stronger by banging more. All this ridiculous stats production durning the regular season just makes the beast weaker come the playoffs.

Negative. Studies show those who engage in activity that involves impact on the bones are found to have higher bone density and higher tensile strength in tendons. Example, a tennis player or sprinter will have higher bone density than a cross country cyclist or swimmer.

 

[nowagimp]

Negative. Studies show those who engage in activity that involves impact on the bones are found to have higher bone density and higher tensile strength in tendons. Example, a tennis player or sprinter will have higher bone density than a cross country cyclist or swimmer.

Nope, wrong again! No evidence that bone density increases prevent a post microfracture surgery athlete from reinjury. In fact, bone density does not alleviate the lack of cartiledge in a joint. No studies of microfracture surgery support any of your arguments for "feeding the beast".

 

[nashman]

Keep the beast involved buy to feed it to him everytime would not be good for this team. Everyone likes to be involved and you would lose everyones focus if Amare was the only one getting the ball. Keep Amare healthy and ready to go for the playoffs and he will get plenty of FEEDING come playoff time. If this team is healthy come playoff time we have a good chance of getting to and winning the Finals!

 

[nowagimp]

Keep the beast involved buy to feed it to him everytime would not be good for this team. Everyone likes to be involved and you would lose everyones focus if Amare was the only one getting the ball. Keep Amare healthy and ready to go for the playoffs and he will get plenty of FEEDING come playoff time. If this team is healthy come playoff time we have a good chance of getting to and winning the Finals!

Yes, keep him strong and healthy and let him loose when the playoffs begin!

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Nope, wrong again! No evidence that bone density increases prevent a post microfracture surgery athlete from reinjury. In fact, bone density does not alleviate the lack of cartiledge in a joint. No studies of microfracture surgery support any of your arguments for "feeding the beast".

How about I conduct a study between my fist and your face!

Feed the Beast!



gosuns

 

[Covert Rain]

Duncan proves its not about raw rebounding stats, sometimes a boxout without a personal rebound is better than a rebound. Guys that play with Duncan get more rebounds when Duncan boxes out. Amare(and other suns big men) needs to box out on defense more. If he does that, I dont care whether he has 9rpg or 11rpg.

This was not about Tim Duncan. He was only used as an example. Since people were quoting specific stats about rebounding I pulled a stat. This was not about boxing out. This was about what he should average, what he does average and the system we run. Your off on another tangent.

 

[mojorizen7]

Completely disagree. He is playing out of position and our style predicates guys NOT CRASHING the boards. Change the system or move Amare to PF, and I bet his rebounding stats go up.

Also 12-13?? There are only 14 players in the NBA averaging more then 10. There are only 5 averaging more then 12 per game. I would say as long as Amare is around 10 rebounds per game, he is doing what he needs to do. Everybody considers Tim Duncan a good rebounder and he only averages 11 RPG. So 10 to 11 is right where Amare needs to be.

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[krispydude]

http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.p...e_gotgame_080120.asx&video=blank&nbasite=nba/

a highlight reel from 1 game. he definitely has his athleticism back. its just too bad about his boxing out and stupid mistakes on defense.

 

[nowagimp]

This was not about Tim Duncan. He was only used as an example. Since people were quoting specific stats about rebounding I pulled a stat. This was not about boxing out. This was about what he should average, what he does average and the system we run. Your off on another tangent.

Its not a tangent, amares rebounding stats do no mean a whole lot. Tim Duncan is an example of a good fundamental rebounder, he's better tan his stats indicate since he boxes out. Amare's performance as a rebounder(is that a tangent?) is not just a stat. What should he average? I dont care whether he's averaging 8 or 11, if the opponents are getting less offensive rebounds. Team stats matter more than individual stats, and amare can help the team stats by boxing out, something he doesnt do well.

 

[Covert Rain]

Its not a tangent, amares rebounding stats do no mean a whole lot. Tim Duncan is an example of a good fundamental rebounder, he's better tan his stats indicate since he boxes out. Amare's performance as a rebounder(is that a tangent?) is not just a stat. What should he average? I dont care whether he's averaging 8 or 11, if the opponents are getting less offensive rebounds. Team stats matter more than individual stats, and amare can help the team stats by boxing out, something he doesnt do well.

Read again. It is a tangent. The discussion was not around technique. It was around if Amare would put up better rebounding stats in a different system playing his natural position.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Hmmm. Amare's rebounds per 48 are better than Shawn and KG.

Also, his scoring per 48 PLUS his fg% means that you could make an arguement that his is the most efficient offensive force in the game. Nash is probably the most efficient among guards.

This team would be downright scary with a little D and rebounding.

 

[BC867]

This team would be downright scary with a little D and rebounding.

And that's why many of us are frustrated with our first-place Suns.

We're so close. But we don't get any closer.