Nets @ Suns Wednesday game thread, November 27th, 2024

[somethingshesaid]

Honestly with an adequate PG last year we might’ve been better with Vogel.

Disagree. The problem with Vogel was the players refusing to listen to or respect him, and that's more their fault. An adequate PG wouldn't have caused their attitudes to all change.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Ughhhhh veryyyy awful loss on a back to back esp bein home (((((((

Hope big 3 better n gm suns need to get bit more over.500 sighhhh

Haooyyyy turkey gobble gobble holiday az sports fans ))

 

[Covert Rain]

Missed opportunity to send a message. They just were sloppy with the ball. Reminded me of last year's team. You could tell IMO that they had not played together for the last several games.

 

[leclerc]

Suns 1-8 to start 3rd quarter. Down by 14. Get these chumps off the court, yes, I'm talking about the Big Three with Nurk dog and Tyus. If they don't compete and give effort, put their fat lazy asses on the bench and let the subs finish the quarter.

 

[leclerc]

No heart this year either. Nets is a better team than the Suns. Who would have known. Nets should be higher favorites to go far in the playoffs. Suns is headed for another first round exit. Oh well, as long as everyone is getting paid.

 

[leclerc]

They're better than last year, but deep down they have the same fatal flaws.

They're not nearly as good as they think they are. As a result they don't play hungry, they don't take "lesser" opponents seriously.

They're extremely injury prone. I cannot fathom this team making it through the 8 week playoff grind with all these glass cannons staying upright, we can hardly make it through 4 games.

This all season long. I have my doubts Bud can make them change their mindset. I am in favor of trading everyone except the rookies.

 

[BirdGangThing]

i see what's happening - bud does too - nba is getting really fast again up and down the court - players defending the 3 and streaking down the court before the shooter lands - athleticism and agility and quickness are disrupting the status quo

we're fine in our half court defense when we're set and moving but the fast breaks due to turnovers and outlet passes and not getting back on defense are embarrassing - in short - we aren't keeping up for stretches and it's killing us imo - the other teams wide open 3s are too

nurk - nurk nurk nurk - when he looks good it's usually because the other team isn't playing fast - bud has been learning to yank him when the game picks up because sprinting is not the nurkmeister's strong suit - being strong was and it's like he's even lost some of that

but back to bud - he see's it all and is doing his best to incorporate youth and speed into our starting line up and bench - you know who loves running up and down the court like a track meet? dunn and oso aka the future but the future comes with growing pain

we're never going to win a championship - ive come to terms with this years ago through self induced psychedelic therapy - the fungus told me to let it go - but im going to keep watching because i think we have a great mix of youth and age - providing the age can stay on the main stage consistently

 

[Mainstreet]

This all season long. I have my doubts Bud can make them change their mindset. I am in favor of trading everyone except the rookies.

Unless Mat Ishbia changes his mind about extending Durant, I doubt we see any major roster changes with the Suns, other than perhaps strengthening the 4/5 position.

This team needs a serious dose of passion and I'm not sure if they have that in them. This team is too aloof for my liking.

I can't help but wonder how they would play under Nets head coach, Jordi, but that bridge has already been crossed.

 

[Hoop Head]

I can't help but wonder how they would play under Nets head coach, Jordi, but that bridge has already been crossed.

This isn't a coaching problem. I think we'd look worse under a first time young HC like Jordi. Having Vogel and Bud get walked on and tuned out by players says enough, to me. This group needs split up. Shop KD and entertain offers for Booker as well. Whichever puts us a place to compete best, take it.

 

[Superbone]

This isn't a coaching problem. I think we'd look worse under a first time young HC like Jordi. Having Vogel and Bud get walked on and tuned out by players says enough, to me. This group needs split up. Shop KD and entertain offers for Booker as well. Whichever puts us a place to compete best, take it.

Yeah, it's a youth versus veteran thing, I think. Hard for a young coach to tell a bunch of veterans to lay it all out there every night and put in more effort. Plus, these experienced guys know to save it for the playoffs. You can't go hard all 82 regular season games unless you are a young upstart team not even expected to make the playoffs.

Having said that, I think our guys could put out more effort and they got embarrassed the other night. I didn't see frantic defense until the last few plays of the game when it was already over.

 

[Mainstreet]

This isn't a coaching problem. I think we'd look worse under a first time young HC like Jordi. Having Vogel and Bud get walked on and tuned out by players says enough, to me. This group needs split up. Shop KD and entertain offers for Booker as well. Whichever puts us a place to compete best, take it.

I don't disagree, however, the Suns want to extend Kevin Durant for two more seasons from the last information I've read.

It will be interesting to see if Mat Ishbia is willing to change directions by breaking up the core.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, it's a youth versus veteran thing, I think. Hard for a young coach to tell a bunch of veterans to lay it all out there every night and put in more effort. Plus, these experienced guys know to save it for the playoffs. You can't go hard all 82 regular season games unless you are a young upstart team not even expected to make the playoffs.

Having said that, I think our guys could put out more effort and they got embarrassed the other night. I didn't see frantic defense until the last few plays of the game when it was already over.

This is a Suns team that has lost 7 out of their last 9 games.

I still see playoff game 7 against the Mavericks swimming around in my head.

It begs the question, what hasn't changed and remains the same?