Never Ending Thread: Jake Plummer Is Better Than Jeff Blake

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Re: AZWins23 is the smartest person on this board

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Wow, come on people AZWins23 obviously knows more about Cardinal football than alot of you, pay attention you could learn alot from him!


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Re: Quotes

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" People who quote other people, do not have an original idea in their brain."
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Oh my god you are pathetic, you reregistered under a different user name to cheer from another team? You expect us to believe that two people from the same town in Ohio nobody has ever heard of just happened upon this site?

You have issues dude
 
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That's not me!!! it's my friend Mike...He is a big Chiefs fan!!! one of the biggest Chiefs fan i know...Right Mike!
 
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Common Sense People

Do you think maybe two people in the same town who are friends might actually talk about sports?? AZ told me about the board so I came here and became a member, and I back up my original statement, AZWins23 probably knows more than 95% of the people on this board. I can ask him who the cardinals drafted in the fourth round in 1995 nd he'll give me the answer within seconds, seriously there is not a bigger fan than him!
I mean come on people he lives in Ohio of all places. Hell there are more people in his basemnent on a Sunday than there are at Sun Devil Stadium...and Im not joking!!!
 

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Re: Common Sense People

Originally posted by ChiefFan
Do you think maybe two people in the same town who are friends might actually talk about sports?? AZ told me about the board so I came here and became a member, and I back up my original statement, AZWins23 probably knows more than 95% of the people on this board. I can ask him who the cardinals drafted in the fourth round in 1995 nd he'll give me the answer within seconds, seriously there is not a bigger fan than him!
I mean come on people he lives in Ohio of all places. Hell there are more people in his basemnent on a Sunday than there are at Sun Devil Stadium...and Im not joking!!!

And almost 95% of the fans on this site can tell you who we drafted in the 4th in the year 1995 as well.

Don't be a pompous ass, telling us that he knows more than us. We've talked to him enough to make a judgement on what he knows or doesn't know about the team. :wave:
 

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Im a pompus ass and your point is...

Intelligence and down right knowing his **** is what AZWins brings to the table. He is as DIEHARD as they come, and just because he is extremely critical of the team he loves doesnt mean he isnt a true fan. Hell you beat Dallas in the playoffs a few years back and thats all the Cardinals have done in a long long time, AZWins points out things he doesnt like and backs his statements with facts So if you people some how think your beloved Cards are still SuperBowl bound at 1-5 then I dont know what to tell you, AZWins is a realist.
 

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Re: Im a pompus ass and your point is...

Originally posted by ChiefFan
Intelligence and down right knowing his **** is what AZWins brings to the table. He is as DIEHARD as they come, and just because he is extremely critical of the team he loves doesnt mean he isnt a true fan. Hell you beat Dallas in the playoffs a few years back and thats all the Cardinals have done in a long long time, AZWins points out things he doesnt like and backs his statements with facts So if you people some how think your beloved Cards are still SuperBowl bound at 1-5 then I dont know what to tell you, AZWins is a realist.
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No he is whining like a little girl, and he hasn't backed anything with facts.

Keep telling yourself that.
 

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You cant be serious...

Oh I get it the fact the Cardinals are 1-5 AZWins should be extatic and bragging about how great the team is and how the organization makes great moves. WAKE UP... its ok to ***** about your team especially when they are playing bad and especially when its the cardinals. You call it whining, so I ask you what should AZWins be saying?
 

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Re: You cant be serious...

Originally posted by ChiefFan
Oh I get it the fact the Cardinals are 1-5 AZWins should be extatic and bragging about how great the team is and how the organization makes great moves. WAKE UP... its ok to ***** about your team especially when they are playing bad and especially when its the cardinals. You call it whining, so I ask you what should AZWins be saying?

Didn't you notice that everyone was sick of his whining on the Cards forum? And if you actually read anything on that board, you would pull your head out your ass, and realize that we aren't exactly excited about the season so far.

But AZWins is (more appropriately was) whining like a little bitch.
 

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How can my head be up my ass when....

Im the only one making sense here.
So let me see, when ever anyone else complains about the cards on this board its ok, but when AZWins complains its bitching. OH OK....
Krang go play with your rattle, drink your kool-aid while you can its getting late and I hear your mommy calling.
 
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Re: AZWins23 is the smartest person on this board

Originally posted by ChiefFan
Wow, come on people AZWins23 obviously knows more about Cardinal football than alot of you, pay attention you could learn alot from him!

Hmm, not sure I've ever seen this....a person, in their first post, losing ALL credibility they might have?! Amazing.
 

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Credibility?

Im not posting for credibility, in fact credibility from you people probably isnt worth more than an Emmit Smith rushing attempt. Noone has answered my original question of why its ok for everyone else to ***** about the Cardinals and its not ok for AZWins, is it because he makes VALID points? seriously just answer that question.
 

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Re: Credibility?

Originally posted by ChiefFan
Im not posting for credibility, in fact credibility from you people probably isnt worth more than an Emmit Smith rushing attempt. Noone has answered my original question of why its ok for everyone else to ***** about the Cardinals and its not ok for AZWins, is it because he makes VALID points? seriously just answer that question.

No one is bitching incessantly, and saying incredibly stupid things like he is. He whined to the point that the owner of this site told him to shut up.

He can complain, but the way he complains is annoying.

And if you say credibility with "you people" is worthless, why are you here?

Chump.
 
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I'am one of the biggest Cardinals fan in the world....i know my credibility, i know where i stand..I make good points..and iam sure i make bad points....You guys don't even know!! ChiefFan is right....When people complain about this team its okay...But when i do it..i get crap for that! it shouldnt be like that!
 

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Hmmm

Im here because I know AZ really well, and I know he knows football let alone Cardinal football better than anybody I know. He is more dedicated to being a cardinal fan than anything else in his life. Im just saying give him a chance and hear him out. Hes frustrated right now because of the lack of effort coming from the red birds, year in and year out he goes through this with the ball club, Im sure he is sick and tired of being sick and tired with them. Is it wrong for him to be passionate?
 

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Originally posted by AzWins23
I'am one of the biggest Cardinals fan in the world....i know my credibility, i know where i stand..I make good points..and iam sure i make bad points....You guys don't even know!! ChiefFan is right....When people complain about this team its okay...But when i do it..i get crap for that! it shouldnt be like that!

It's the way you complain bud.

We're both fans of the same team, and I give you huge props for the crap you go for. But there is a more acceptable way to complain, and what you did for the last few weeks wasn't acceptable.

I've got nothing against you, but your dawg there needs to watch his mouth. He doesn't know any of us. You do somewhat, and you should tell your friend that this board is one of the better football boards on the net. :thumbup:
 

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Originally posted by AzWins23
I'am one of the biggest Cardinals fan in the world....i know my credibility, i know where i stand..I make good points..and iam sure i make bad points....You guys don't even know!! ChiefFan is right....When people complain about this team its okay...But when i do it..i get crap for that! it shouldnt be like that!

You dont compain about the team though thats your problem! Looke for your myriad of posts. You complain that Jake Plummer is gone and really not about much else. Get over it!

Look at the current team and look at whats wrong and stop worrying about Cardinal has beens!
 

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Re: Hmmm

Originally posted by ChiefFan
Im here because I know AZ really well, and I know he knows football let alone Cardinal football better than anybody I know. He is more dedicated to being a cardinal fan than anything else in his life. Im just saying give him a chance and hear him out. Hes frustrated right now because of the lack of effort coming from the red birds, year in and year out he goes through this with the ball club, Im sure he is sick and tired of being sick and tired with them. Is it wrong for him to be passionate?

As I've said, no there isn't anything wrong about being passionate.

But being annoying is a whole other realm, and his posts were getting real annoying.
 

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Originally posted by Shane H
You dont compain about the team though thats your problem! Looke for your myriad of posts. You complain that Jake Plummer is gone and really not about much else. Get over it!

Look at the current team and look at whats wrong and stop worrying about Cardinal has beens!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And the thread where you were blaming the defense for the loss against the Ravens:

Earth to Azwins, the defense played well enough to win. We would have won if Blake hadn't thrown three picks, and Player hadn't had his punt blocked (due to a missed block by Levar Fisher).
 
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I thought message boards was to voice your opinion....i never thought this message board was so stricked about negitivity...... We have been had for 100 years, besides the fact that we beat the Eagles in 1947 14-7 in the Championship game, before we had the Superbowl...When we were called the Chicago Cardinals....But really what is there to be happy about?? I mean besides the fact that we are getting a new stadium in 2006 and maybe get the Superbowl in 2008....Should i be happy about wasting money on over the hill Emmit Smith? When we do something right...Trust me i'll compliment it...But i can't see anyting going right, besides for Boldin. And how do i know the Boldin will be here when his contract is up? It's just the Cardinals way of doing things...My guess he will be gone! It's just the way it is...i pray to God it won't..but only time can tell....And iam running out of it!
 

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Originally posted by AzWins23
I thought message boards was to voice your opinion....i never thought this message board was so stricked about negitivity...... We have been had for 100 years, besides the fact that we beat the Eagles in 1947 14-7 in the Championship game, before we had the Superbowl...When we were called the Chicago Cardinals....But really what is there to be happy about?? I mean besides the fact that we are getting a new stadium in 2006 and maybe get the Superbowl in 2008....Should i be happy about wasting money on over the hill Emmit Smith? When we do something right...Trust me i'll compliment it...But i can't see anyting going right, besides for Boldin. And how do i know the Boldin will be here when his contract is up? It's just the Cardinals way of doing things...My guess he will be gone! It's just the way it is...i pray to God it won't..but only time can tell....And iam running out of it!

No, don't be happy. I am sure as hell pissed off about this season.

But be objective and analytical, try to keep your emotions in check, and not annoy the other posters.

I'm actually just as pissed as you are. You gotta' remember most of us out here go to all the games, and have to sit in a nearly empty college stadium in 106 degree heat with tons of fans from other teams.

We are the fans, and we aren't happy. But no one will find super negativity appealing. If you have a problem with the way things are going, show us your football knowledge by telling us what you would do.
 

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For the Fans

As an outsider, I think part of the Cardinals problems begin with Bidwill not spending money, its as if hes just waiting for the new stadium to open before he gets serious about this team. The NFC West at the begining of this season was wide open, hell it still is, I believe Seattle is playing well but will probably taper off , Matt Hasselbeck is far from being a leader who is consistant. Hell 8-8 could win the west this year. So I ask you the card fans, who is more to blame, ownership, coaches, players....maybe a combination?
 

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Re: For the Fans

Originally posted by ChiefFan
As an outsider, I think part of the Cardinals problems begin with Bidwill not spending money, its as if hes just waiting for the new stadium to open before he gets serious about this team. The NFC West at the begining of this season was wide open, hell it still is, I believe Seattle is playing well but will probably taper off , Matt Hasselbeck is far from being a leader who is consistant. Hell 8-8 could win the west this year. So I ask you the card fans, who is more to blame, ownership, coaches, players....maybe a combination?

A combination. What's funny is that over the past five years, Bidwill is usually in the top half for NFL salaries, so the reputation for being cheap isn't really true.

Granted we are sitting on 10 million in cap room, but we were spurned by the free agents that we wanted and the ownership wanted to invest it in some of the good younger players on the team that are about to be free agents. LB Ray Thompson was just signed to a four year extension, and the team is working on getting LT L.J. Shelton resigned, and CB David Barrett.

Coach Mac is a motivational-type coach, but he is a major failure managing games and hiring assistant coaches. Joe Greene, defensive line coach, has not made one DLineman better since he has been coach here, and Defensive Coordinator Larry Marmie calls the worst defensive game I've ever seen on a regular basis. Mac also doesn't make personel moves quick enough, and is too loyal to "his players".

The players....well like every team, we do have good players. But the problem is that we lack good players at certain key positions especially defensive line, corner, and quarterback. We need IMO, at least 3 more good defensive lineman (at least 2 of those as starters), 2 good corners (one as a nickel back), and a franchise passer (like a Byron Leftwich :rolleyes: ).

But we have nice young talent at LB (Ray Thompson, Levar Fisher, Gerald Hayes, La Var Woods), Receiver (Anquan Boldin, Bryant Johnson, Jason McAddley, Kevin Kasper), Offensive line (Leonard Davis, Pete Kendall, L.J. Shelton, Cameron Spikes). Tight end is a strength with Freddie Jones and Steve Bush, as is fullback with mammoth plow man James Hodgins. This team is extremely young and it will grow with time, and if the right moves are made, it can be a pretty good team.
 

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