New DC info and rumors

[HeavyB3]

Doesn't change the rules about him being under contract, just means the Cards have given permission for him to go.

Doesn't the title promotion get him out of his contract? He was a position coach going to a AST HC/AST job, that's a promotion, at least technically.

 

[kerouac9]

RE: athletic LB comment. We had Washington and we still had TE problems. This year we had a lot less TE problems than last year...it's was night and day.

I want Dick Lebeau as our DC. He will bring respect and solidarity to the position. Players will follow him...there won't be a drop off.

on another subject I'm really wondering how the Cards are going to deal with their cap issues.

Yeah... I wonder if our having fewer TE problems were more about the fact that we were playing fewer high-profile TEs than it was that we got better. The biggest problem I had with Bowles this year (and it was minor) was that he never found a way to contain the TE. By the end of the year, Luke Willson was destroying us, and we didn't have a solution for Greg Olson, either.

Maybe we ask Mike Singletary to come in as DC, working with Lebeau I suspect we have a shot at keeping DWash together and playing at a high level

Fun Fact: Mike Singletary has never coordinated a defense.

please god no.



I think Cannon was drafted to play S and cover TEs and then we ended up with no linebackers and had to improvise. To me that is just fueling my claim that it is a personnel problem, not a scheme problem.

Bucannon was almost as ineffective in man coverage as Larry Foote was. Our ILB corps is scary-bad.

 

[Azlen]

Doesn't the title promotion get him out of his contract? He was a position coach going to a AST HC/AST job, that's a promotion, at least technically.

If that was the case then the Cards would have had Butler as their DC several years ago.

 

[BigRedRage]

Bucannon was almost as ineffective in man coverage as Larry Foote was. Our ILB corps is scary-bad.

he did make a few plays though. as SS I would imagine he will play off coverage on TEs vs lining right up on them in the future.

 

[BillsCarnage]

it seems its already a done deal that caldwell is going with Bowles.

If Arians wants him as the DC he'll be the DC here. Otherwise he's off to NYJ. The Cards could easily promote him to DC to prevent him from going, but there has to be mutual interest.

Lebeau coming in as a consultant would be great if they go with a less experienced DC. Also, Arians will likely want someone with a similar 3-4 philosophy as Bowles had so they can use their current personal the same way.

Although I thought Lebeau had a different philosophy than Bowles where the Dline stuffs the blocks and the LB's clean up. vs the constant attacking Bowles had. Maybe I'm mistaken though.

 

[HeavyB3]

If that was the case then the Cards would have had Butler as their DC several years ago.

I looked it up and it appears you are right, (according to a website that may more may not be legitimate but I think it its). There are only two tiers of coaches, head coaches and assistant coaches. Coordinators and assistant head coaching titles do not matter.

Apparently, these guys represent a lot of coaches despite the horrible website they have, which breaks one of my most hated writing peeves.

"We have negotiated with literally all 32 NFL teams"

LITERALLY IS NOT A NECCESSARY WORD! It makes them sound like 14 year olds wrote the website.


Anyway, here are, like, literally all the rules they have on their website. Literally.

http://www.prostarcoaching.net/library/NFL_Contact_Rules.pdf

 

[BigRedRage]

If Arians wants him as the DC he'll be the DC here. Otherwise he's off to NYJ. The Cards could easily promote him to DC to prevent him from going, but there has to be mutual interest.

Lebeau coming in as a consultant would be great if they go with a less experienced DC. Also, Arians will likely want someone with a similar 3-4 philosophy as Bowles had so they can use their current personal the same way.

Although I thought Lebeau had a different philosophy than Bowles where the Dline stuffs the blocks and the LB's clean up. vs the constant attacking Bowles had. Maybe I'm mistaken though.

His philosophy of 3-4 IS different but if he is not the DC, we may not change it. He is more of Hortons philosophy than Bowles.

 

[football karma]

Yeah... I wonder if our having fewer TE problems were more about the fact that we were playing fewer high-profile TEs than it was that we got better. The biggest problem I had with Bowles this year (and it was minor) was that he never found a way to contain the TE. By the end of the year, Luke Willson was destroying us, and we didn't have a solution for Greg Olson, either.

clearly not playing Jimmy Graham, and Vernon Davis having a poor year contributed to overall TE figures being better in 2014 than 2013

I think the TE problem is (was?) endemic to Bowles' approach. With lots of single high or no safety looks with man coverage: it left TEs matched man with LBs ( including Buccanon).

How many of the yards were fron a TE simply running a go route off play action and the QB throwing the ball over the top? Three of the long TDs came from plays like that. Not sure if that was design that just got beat by good offensive design or if someone was caught out of position.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I think Cannon was drafted to play S and cover TEs and then we ended up with no linebackers and had to improvise. To me that is just fueling my claim that it is a personnel problem, not a scheme problem.

I think he was drafted because they thought he was the BPA, and not because of him covering up the TE. I haven't seen anyone from the Cards state that's why he was drafted. Have you?

 

[BigRedRage]

I think he was drafted because they thought he was the BPA, and not because of him covering up the TE. I haven't seen anyone from the Cards state that's why he was drafted. Have you?

BPA, somewhat of a need and a problem covering TE's. Part of why we cut loose Bell and then drafted a safety, a lot of talk was about cannon being faster and more fluid, having better coverage ability and etc.

But interpretations differ from mind to mind.

 

[BigRedRage]

Mike Jurecki ‏@mikejurecki 17s17 seconds ago
Tune into the show this afternoon. RT @AZDiesel: so who's the DC going to be? Come on Jurecki, get to work!”

may get some good info. Ill turn it on if I have time

 

[Goldfield]

Disagree.... kinda. I think it is a coaching problem too. It is almost like they are ignoring the TE problem that we have in order to cover up other areas/excel in other areas. We just drafted a safety that plays in the box in the first round. Who else do you expect them draft/acquire in order to cover the TE?

Oh no. It's more of philosophy issue. We ignore the TE on both defense and offense!

 

[joeshmo]

may get some good info. Ill turn it on if I have time

You will have to listen for a while. Every time they go to break they say, next up Cardinals news. Then they come back from break and talk about their favorite place to eat wings then go to commercial again.

 

[BigRedRage]

Kent Somers ‏@kentsomers 12s13 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Arians plans to promote an asst to DC, hopes to hire LeBeau as a senior assistant, per source. Don't know which asst. #AZCardinals

Kent thinking we promote from within now, will need to recruit a few more then to replace that position coach along with caldwell.

 

[BigRedRage]

You will have to listen for a while. Every time they go to break they say, next up Cardinals news. Then they come back from break and talk about their favorite place to eat wings then go to commercial again.

when they do get to cardinals they tend to have the best cardinals coverage by far though.

 

[joeshmo]

when they do get to cardinals they tend to have the best cardinals coverage by far though.

That is what it makes it even more frustrating. You have no idea how many times I have sat in my car in the garage waiting for something

 

[Mitch]

New DC will be one of the Cardinals' assistants with BA hoping to have Dick LeBeau as his defensive consultant, according to KS.

I am thinking Nick Rapone, Brentson Buckner or James Bettcher.

BA goes way back with Rapone.

Buckner is a firecracker.

Bettcher is 35 and an up-and-comer.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Oh no. It's more of philosophy issue. We ignore the TE on both defense and offence!

This is what I think as well.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

New DC will be one of the Cardinals' assistants with BA hoping to have Dick LeBeau as his defensive consultant, according to KS.

I am thinking Nick Rapone, Brentson Buckner or James Bettcher.

BA goes way back with Rapone.

Buckner is a firecracker.

Bettcher is 35 and an up-and-comer.

Didn't Arians already say he was looking to hire from outside of the organization?

 

[kerouac9]

New DC will be one of the Cardinals' assistants with BA hoping to have Dick LeBeau as his defensive consultant, according to KS.

I am thinking Nick Rapone, Brentson Buckner or James Bettcher.

BA goes way back with Rapone.

Buckner is a firecracker.

Bettcher is 35 and an up-and-comer.

It'll be Rapone or someone else.

Bettcher is only an "up-and-comer" in Mitch's fevered imagination. He's been in the NFL for three seasons.

Buckner was a high school head coach five years ago.

A legit dark horse candidate could be cornerbacks coach Kevin Ross.

 

[overseascardfan]

Didn't Arians already say he was looking to hire from outside of the organization?

Why didn't they just promote Caldwell and hire LaBeau?

 

[Mitch]

Why didn't they just promote Caldwell and hire LaBeau?

Doesn't sound like Caldwell was BA's choice.

 

[CardsFan88]

Wrong thread

 

[Jetstream Green]

Oh no. It's more of philosophy issue. We ignore the TE on both defense and offense!

I'm a Cardinals fan, what the hell is a TE?... oh, they be the dudes that score on us, maybe we need one lol

 

[Jim Otis]

I'm a Cardinals fan, what the hell is a TE?... oh, they be the dudes that score on us, maybe we need one lol

With Housler TE means Tremendous Error !!!!!!