New Lineup?

[jagu]

Would you guys throw Barron into the fire and start him? I don't think it will be very confusing for Barron or the Suns. Barron would probably fit in well with the starters as he is a mobile big man like Lopez and he adds some much needed rebounding in the frontline. Frye can go back to the bench. I don't know if Gentry will do that though.

 

[Chaplin]

I know you hate Channing Frye, but if you think we're going to start Earl Barron over him, you're crazy.

 

[jagu]

Haha I knew my hatred of Channing Frye would come up. I know the idea is a reach. However, the rebounding issues with the starters should be a huge concern and Barron may help that. Frye can return to his rightful spot on the team, being the center of the bench. His defense leaves a gaping hole when added to Turkoglu.

 

[Chaplin]

Haha I knew my hatred of Channing Frye would come up. I know the idea is a reach. However, the rebounding issues with the starters should be a huge concern and Barron may help that. Frye can return to his rightful spot on the team, being the center of the bench. His defense leaves a gaping hole when added to Turkoglu.

The funny thing is, Frye starting tonight has been better than any of the previous 8 games with Robin as the starter.

Earl Barron played in 11 games last year (at the end of the year on a BAD team in games that didn't matter) and hasn't even signed yet, and you want to start him? Don't you want to see if he's even in shape first??

 

[Irish]

Frye did OK Monday night: 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 of 5 for three, and a blocked shot. The Suns need more rebounding, but he is showing some skills.

 

[Sunburn]

As much as I've hated on Frye, I've actually thought his defense hasn't been too bad lately.

 

[Folster]

I know you hate Channing Frye, but if you think we're going to start Earl Barron over him, you're crazy.

Jarron Collins started over Frye last year when Lopez went down.

 

[Chaplin]

Jarron Collins started over Frye last year when Lopez went down.

Jarron Collins was a proven commodity and had been with the team before Lopez went down. Not even close to the same thing.

 

[jagu]

Jarron Collins was a proven commodity and had been with the team before Lopez went down. Not even close to the same thing.

Wow. Jarron Collins and proven commodity in the same sentence. I no longer will be surprised if I see a UFO outside my window.

 

[Chaplin]

Wow. Jarron Collins and proven commodity in the same sentence. I no longer will be surprised if I see a UFO outside my window.

You know what I mean.

 

[Mainstreet]

Jarron Collins started over Frye last year when Lopez went down.

I think it is a fair comparison because the Suns did not want to change their rotation with Lopez out last season. I doubt if Collins is better than Barron but Collins was already with the Suns. I'm thinking the Suns will not want to immediately add a new player to the starting lineup. Anyway, I think the Suns will want to promote Frye to the starting lineup and see how it plays out.

 

[Chaplin]

And regardless of how good Collins was, he was vastly more experienced than Barron probably will ever be.

Don't get me wrong, I like the signing, but to expect the guy to start is crazy.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

Looks like Hedo may be moved to the bench, with Warrick getting the nod at the 4 spot.

Did anyone see Al Harrington back Hedo down in the post yesterday? It was like watching Shaq backing in on Earl Boykins. The sooner we move Hedo back to the 3, the better.

 

[Sunburn]

Looks like Hedo may be moved to the bench, with Warrick getting the nod at the 4 spot.

Did anyone see Al Harrington back Hedo down in the post yesterday? It was like watching Shaq backing in on Earl Boykins. The sooner we move Hedo back to the 3, the better.

I noticed this as well.

 

[jagu]

Looks like Hedo may be moved to the bench, with Warrick getting the nod at the 4 spot.

Did anyone see Al Harrington back Hedo down in the post yesterday? It was like watching Shaq backing in on Earl Boykins. The sooner we move Hedo back to the 3, the better.

That was pretty sad haha, Hedo had no shot there. Warrick has much stronger legs to take that from Al Harrington. Was Harrington a FA? He is a really versatile ball player. I still can't believe how misused he was by D'Antoni in NY.

 

[Chaplin]

Looks like Hedo may be moved to the bench, with Warrick getting the nod at the 4 spot.

Where did you get that news from? Please tell me it's not from the game thread on RealGM's message board. PLEASE.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

Where did you get that news from? Please tell me it's not from the game thread on RealGM's message board. PLEASE.

From Yahoo, via rotowire

Coach Alvin Gentry is considering removing Turkoglu from his starting power forward role, and instead bringing him off the bench as a sixth man, Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic reports.
Recommendation: Turkoglu has been overmatched at the 4, especially on the defensive end. "I'd rather have him in the game five minutes later where he has no fouls than to take him out in the first five minutes," Gentry said. This move could actually boost Turkoglu’s fantasy output, as coming off the bench as a key scoring option at his natural small forward position may get him more shoots and keep him on the floor and out of foul trouble for longer periods of time.
(Rotowire.com)

 

[Mulli]

Turko overmatched on the defensive end at PF? Wow, who knew that would happen?

 

[Chaplin]

From Yahoo, via rotowire

Oh yes, that was from before the Laker game I believe. Of course, Hedo did start both games since.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

I've seen nothing in Hedo's play since that would have changed Gentry's stance on the matter; could be he postponed the move because of RoLo's injury, or maybe he'll wait 'til after this road trip. The biggest thing is that Gentry is considering it, and personally I'd welcome the move. Hedo's versatility makes him a great 6th man candidate, so long as he can embrace the role.

 

[Irish]

It seems obvious that Warrick will start and Hedo will come off the bench. I won't predict when, but the case is overwhelming:

1. Warrick is the best pick and roll big and Nash needs someone to run the P&R with.

2. Hedo needs to handle the ball to be "the best he can be", which is hard with Nash on the floor at the same time.

3. Dragic is not as strong a pick and roll guy as Nash but Hedo does a very nice job of it.

4. Putting Heo on the second team gives them four three point shooters

It's not clear when the move will happen, but it feels like it is just a matter of time.

 

[devilalum]

Frye is the best big man the Suns have. He is the best rebounder and the best big defender. There was obviously something wrong with RoLo before he hurt his knee. He has done nothing but dig holes for the Suns in the games he has played in.

 

[BC867]

Frye is the best big man the Suns have. He is the best rebounder and the best big defender. There was obviously something wrong with RoLo before he hurt his knee. He has done nothing but dig holes for the Suns in the games he has played in.

Based on his size, Frye is the only big man the Suns have who is rotation-ready. The problem is that he is soft on defense and rebounding (although improving slightly) and plays 23 feet from the basket on offense, where the only thing you can rebound is a missed "3" that arcs off the rim.

Regarding Lopez, there were whispers that his back was still bothering him.

As far as our big men, successful basketball calls for two players on the floor who exceed 230 lbs. Put only one out there (as we do) and he'll be man-handled, ineffective, injury prone and lose his confidence (as ours have).

 

[AzStevenCal]

Based on his size, Frye is the only big man the Suns have who is rotation-ready. The problem is that he is soft on defense and rebounding (although improving slightly) and plays 23 feet from the basket on offense, where the only thing you can rebound is a missed "3" that arcs off the rim.

Regarding Lopez, there were whispers that his back was still bothering him.

As far as our big men, successful basketball calls for two players on the floor who exceed 230 lbs. Put only one out there (as we do) and he'll be man-handled, ineffective, injury prone and lose his confidence (as ours have).

I've yet to see any actual source suggest that Robin's back was still an issue. The only "whispers" I've come across are speculative comments on message boards. Is that what you're referring to or have I missed a comment?

Steve

 

[BC867]

I've yet to see any actual source suggest that Robin's back was still an issue. The only "whispers" I've come across are speculative comments on message boards. Is that what you're referring to or have I missed a comment?

Steve

I honestly don't remember where I read or heard it. It might have been in the Republic/AzCentral.com or from the announcers.

Just one sentence saying that Robin may be favoring his back even though he is seemingly 100%.