NFL Network report Cards not looking QB @15

[Evil Ash]

Either you are confused or I am. I thought we were talking about the reports that we aren't targeting a QB at 15.

National reporter says we aren't targeting a QB because of the 2 signings.
Local reports are saying that the deals are short because we are going to draft a QB in round 1 or 2.

One of them has it wrong. Not that complicated

 

[POISON]

We're drafting a qb in the 1st or 2nd round. Glennon may get traded since they got him at a cheaper price than I figured. Could be we don’t really want the guy at all. He's terrible. Maybe this is actually a smart move for once!

 

[AZ Native]

This whole scenario has us drafting a QB in the first round. Screw the clickbait.

 

[Cheesebeef]

This whole scenario has us drafting a QB in the first round. Screw the clickbait.

I gotta believe this simply because I refuse to admit this team can be THAT stupid to not get a QB AGAIN. It would ruin any anticipation I have for the future and I ain’t ready to do that... as bleak as the future may be.

 

[sdscard4]

This draft for QB's suck. Why is everyone freaking out. Baker is the only one I think that can be special all the others are not even close. If one slips then good but don't give up anything for these qbs

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Has to be smoke.

How many times in the last years has SK tipped his hand and other teams traded right in front of us to select someone we had interest in?

If I'm SK I'm doing everything I can to deflect the attention of looking at a QB at 15.

 

[Garthshort]

I have posted that I think that the Cardinals would/should draft a CB or OL in the first round and then pick a QB in the second round, with Rudolph their target. Now, with losing HB, the team must make a splash with their first round pick. So if they can't move up for one of the Top Four QB's, I now believe that they will draft Mason Rudolph at #15. As in, "Rudolph the Red Shirt QB".

 

[HoodieBets]

Has to be smoke.

How many times in the last years has SK tipped his hand and other teams traded right in front of us to select someone we had interest in?

If I'm SK I'm doing everything I can to deflect the attention of looking at a QB at 15.

Okay so if half this board thinks it’s a smokescreen, don’t you think other GMs do as well and this report would not stop them from moving up?


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[Harry]

If they were trying to get one to fall to 15, this is precisely what they would say. You want to discourage trades ahead of your spot.

 

[Son of RedRage]

I mean, she said we weren't picking one at #15. I assume that just means we're trading up.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I wouldn't take this to serious. Lots of smoke from GM's this time of the season.

+1

 

[CardsFan88]

If one of the top QB guys doesn't drop (or our guy), we shouldn't draft a QB at 15. We should trade back. Then either with that pick, or the 2nd rounder we likely pick up, or our own 2nd rounder draft one there.

Meanwhile take a WR like Kirk or a C like Price. Or better yet Both. Then with the remaining pick take the bQBa.

 

[Snakester]

If they were trying to get one to fall to 15, this is precisely what they would say. You want to discourage trades ahead of your spot.

I agree. Both Bradford and Glennon are on short term contracts. I believe they were signed to take care of this year while our rookie first round pick sits and learns so he can be ready to start in 2019. I think signing Glennon was insurance just in case Bradford gets hurt. I think the plan is still to get our guy by trading up but just in case things didn't work out we would still have two experienced quarterbacks.

 

[Ronin]

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[unseenaz]

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come on down baker! if we're going to suck we can at least be entertaining

 

[football karma]

the "all or nothing" approach with BA and Palmer has left the Cards painted into a corner thsi offseason -- the corner being "acquire either Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins, or, you will have to take a QB in round 1"

given the first two didnt happen -- it leaves the Cards in a difficult place: high enough in the draft to be close, but not high enough and with enough QB needy teams in front of them to be on the outside looking in if they stay at #15.

BTW: why i hate the "wait until round 2 idea":

Ravens at 16
Chargers at 17
Bengals at 21
Saints at 27
Steelers at 28
Jags at 29
Patriots at 31
Miami at 43
Washington at 45

all of these teams could conceivably take a QB to groom for the future. I think this is especially true now that it costs $25 million plus for a good but not great QB

The Card FO might say "we think Kyle Lauletta is a franchise QB, lets take him at #47" -- only to see the next tier of QBs get picked over by the teams noted above.

at that point at #47, you are likely staring at waiting yet another year and hoping, or, dropping your drawers for Philly to get Nick Foles.

 

[CardsFan88]

the "all or nothing" approach with BA and Palmer has left the Cards painted into a corner thsi offseason -- the corner being "acquire either Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins, or, you will have to take a QB in round 1"

given the first two didnt happen -- it leaves the Cards in a difficult place: high enough in the draft to be close, but not high enough and with enough QB needy teams in front of them to be on the outside looking in if they stay at #15.

BTW: why i hate the "wait until round 2 idea":

Ravens at 16
Chargers at 17
Bengals at 21
Saints at 27
Steelers at 28
Jags at 29
Patriots at 31
Miami at 43
Washington at 45

all of these teams could conceivably take a QB to groom for the future. I think this is especially true now that it costs $25 million plus for a good but not great QB

The Card FO might say "we think Kyle Lauletta is a franchise QB, lets take him at #47" -- only to see the next tier of QBs get picked over by the teams noted above.

at that point at #47, you are likely staring at waiting yet another year and hoping, or, dropping your drawers for Philly to get Nick Foles.

Great post, almost was going to post the same thing yesterday.

We could get lucky and teams might be waiting until the late first to early 2nd to take say, the 4-6th best QB. So this range might be still the first tier, and the 2nd tier could still be there at #47.

If guys are dropping, but the first tier that we like, say Mayfield and Allen are gone (I'm assuming this is who our FO like's, it could be the others) we might view guys like Jackson/Rudolph in the same tier as Lauletta and the others and roll the dice they are there at #47. We could also trade back and maybe pick up a 2nd.

That way we might try to get one of the 1B and 2nd tier guys either with our traded down pick, our picked up 2nd rounder (higher or lower then ours), or our own.

I really wouldn't mind coming out of the 1st two rounds, given our situation, with Kirk/Price/and one of the 1B-2nd tier QB's.

This might be our best shot to improve the team without giving up a bunch of picks to move up, which would likely be unsuccessful given that the Bills are above us, and can outbid us. I seriously don't want us to give up a bunch of picks for the 3rd or 4th best QB.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Colin thinks the Arizona Cardinals are in danger of ‘disappearing in the desert’
https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1185755715823

- OK, and I asked Steve Keim, the GM of Arizona, did you guys go after Jimmy Garoppolo who you now play twice a year for the next decade?

- Number one, you know, it takes two sides to trade. And number two, you know, there are things that go on with the rosters, you know, that head coaches aren't involved with on a daily basis. And number one, that's from a financial perspective over the next three years, which I try to do a three year view. And that's really, again, the numbers that we're paying a quarterback and at any position, really, how we're allocating our money. So there were factors that were involved in it.

I did look at Jimmy Garoppolo. There's no doubt he has some talent. The body of work was, as we know, limited. But it looks like they made a great decision out there.

- Arizona is in real danger of becoming an old mobster disappearing in the desert. OK, I want you to look at the top 12 draft picks. Arizona's got the 15th. Cleveland is taking a quarterback. The Giants, Indy, and Cleveland's second pick, they will not take a quarterback.

Denver has Case Keenum, but may take another. The Jets at six absolutely will. Then the Bucks, Bears, Niners, and Raiders will not. The Dolphins have Tannehill off an injury. That's a strong maybe. And the Bills have moved up to 12. That's a yes.

OK, you can do the math yourself. We have three yes's and two strong maybes. And there's what? Four quarterbacks the NFL scouts like. Arizona is in trouble. They're in a division with Jared Goff twice a year coached by Sean McVay, Jimmy Garoppolo twice a year coached by Kyle Shanahan, and Russell Wilson twice a year. Right now, they've got Sam Bradford with a degenerative knee issue.

 

[BigRedRage]

Great post, almost was going to post the same thing yesterday.

We could get lucky and teams might be waiting until the late first to early 2nd to take say, the 4-6th best QB. So this range might be still the first tier, and the 2nd tier could still be there at #47.

If guys are dropping, but the first tier that we like, say Mayfield and Allen are gone (I'm assuming this is who our FO like's, it could be the others) we might view guys like Jackson/Rudolph in the same tier as Lauletta and the others and roll the dice they are there at #47. We could also trade back and maybe pick up a 2nd.

That way we might try to get one of the 1B and 2nd tier guys either with our traded down pick, our picked up 2nd rounder (higher or lower then ours), or our own.

I really wouldn't mind coming out of the 1st two rounds, given our situation, with Kirk/Price/and one of the 1B-2nd tier QB's.

This might be our best shot to improve the team without giving up a bunch of picks to move up, which would likely be unsuccessful given that the Bills are above us, and can outbid us. I seriously don't want us to give up a bunch of picks for the 3rd or 4th best QB.

I'm not pick trading savvy but I would think we could do something like swapping with a low end 1st round pick (25-32) for our 15 and maybe getting a 3rd with it.

This could allow us to take a 2nd round QB before anyone else can and add more cpital to get WRs and CBs in later rounds. something like that. Even to be in the top of the second round plus a 3rd pick could be worth it.

I believe we would have to give up WAY too much to get one of the top 2-3 QBs but if we think the 2nd and 3rd round QBs can ball, I am all for trading down and getting more picks to fill holes on the roster with fresh talent.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

This whole scenario has us drafting a QB in the first round. Screw the clickbait.

Wasnt clickbait, it was this lady, the main story was the Glennon signing, than she threw in per team representitive this move, she was told Cards are looking to upgrade Oline @ 15 it wasnt the main story Check out Tiffany Blackmon (@tiffblackmon): https://twitter.com/tiffblackmon?s=09

 

[CardsFan88]

NFLN just reported that before we signed Bradford, we called the Eagles about Foles. They said it was a quick conversation.

What that means to me is that the Eagles were asking for too much, wouldn't budge, and we moved on.

So we tried to get three guys before Bradford. Or maybe we wanted Bradford+Foles.

 

[Brak]

https://twitter.com/theherd/status/974352530988658688

 

[WildBB]

the "all or nothing" approach with BA and Palmer has left the Cards painted into a corner thsi offseason -- the corner being "acquire either Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins, or, you will have to take a QB in round 1"

given the first two didnt happen -- it leaves the Cards in a difficult place: high enough in the draft to be close, but not high enough and with enough QB needy teams in front of them to be on the outside looking in if they stay at #15.

BTW: why i hate the "wait until round 2 idea":

Ravens at 16
Chargers at 17
Bengals at 21
Saints at 27
Steelers at 28
Jags at 29
Patriots at 31
Miami at 43
Washington at 45

all of these teams could conceivably take a QB to groom for the future. I think this is especially true now that it costs $25 million plus for a good but not great QB

The Card FO might say "we think Kyle Lauletta is a franchise QB, lets take him at #47" -- only to see the next tier of QBs get picked over by the teams noted above.

at that point at #47, you are likely staring at waiting yet another year and hoping, or, dropping your drawers for Philly to get Nick Foles.

Lauletta has potential. Big difference and why he likely lasts into the 2nd round. That's worked out for a select few later then 1st round drafted QB's, mainly because they had the opportunity AND support around them to cash that in.

There have been many that just didn't have what was needed to succeed. Sometimes the support failed them too. That's why teams have to pay out the nose for a QB that has shown even a moderate kind of success starting in this league. It's rare, because just half the teams have winning records just about, and the losing teams are looking for signal callers half the time.
No easy answers. Sometimes you just hope and pray the draft can produce that need for u, when u need it. Or be prepared to sacrifice other needs to fill a more critical one.

 

[BW52]

This draft for QB's suck. Why is everyone freaking out. Baker is the only one I think that can be special all the others are not even close. If one slips then good but don't give up anything for these qbs

Amazing how many people feel differently.I think Mayfield is going to be the big flop.

 

[WildBB]

Great post, almost was going to post the same thing yesterday.

We could get lucky and teams might be waiting until the late first to early 2nd to take say, the 4-6th best QB. So this range might be still the first tier, and the 2nd tier could still be there at #47.

If guys are dropping, but the first tier that we like, say Mayfield and Allen are gone (I'm assuming this is who our FO like's, it could be the others) we might view guys like Jackson/Rudolph in the same tier as Lauletta and the others and roll the dice they are there at #47. We could also trade back and maybe pick up a 2nd.

That way we might try to get one of the 1B and 2nd tier guys either with our traded down pick, our picked up 2nd rounder (higher or lower then ours), or our own.

I really wouldn't mind coming out of the 1st two rounds, given our situation, with Kirk/Price/and one of the 1B-2nd tier QB's.

This might be our best shot to improve the team without giving up a bunch of picks to move up, which would likely be unsuccessful given that the Bills are above us, and can outbid us. I seriously don't want us to give up a bunch of picks for the 3rd or 4th best QB.

Cardinals don't like to trade back too much. They did with Bucannon, but that was with the 20th pick I believe. I think the farthest they would go back is around to #22 with the Bills, I think. And that would be for a QB. Otherwise they'll stay put and select a position player, imo. If they do that they could attempt to trade back into the late 1st round if one of Jackson, Rudolph, Lauletta, White are there and they have them all bunched together.

Only guy they'd sacrifce picks to move up and get would be Allen or Mayfield, and that would mtl have to be around the 10 spot, or they"ll have to give up a bunch.