NO way on Vince Young

[gusmahler]

It seems to me that Vince Young is a better prospect than Vick was. Youngs attributes are similar to Vick except Young is taller, bigger, stronger, and a better passer than Vick. Vick is faster, yet Young is no slouch in the speed catagory.

This is just a guess, but the questions about Young's throwing motion are related to the arm strength question. Obviously, while Vick has several weaknesses, arm strength isn't one of them.

 

[WisconsinCard]

WHO IN THE HELL IS THE GUY FROM OURLADS???
hey, Hey, HEY!

During my early days as a draft junky, I spent many an hour with the Hetzlers, Werndl and other Ourlads guys gassing about the draft. I'd run into them at the draft. I'd occasionally break bread with them over lunch. And I participated in one of the Ourlads' Fans' Drafts (They made me pick of the Jets, and I caught a lot of heat for choosing a little known DE from Langston U named Pierce Holt).

One year when I was Promotion Guy at a NJ daily called The Trentonian, I ran a mock draft tie-in contest with Ourlads.

The Hetzlers know their football and do their homework. They were attending Senior Bowl practices (mainly as a labor of love) many years before there was a Great Blue North or Gil Brandt was reporting for nfl.com. They're also great guys.

For years, they've run their mock draft differently from anyone else - preferring to (a) key into a mainframe computer (aptly named "Ourlads") with tons of electronic data used to rate various aspects of a player's game and then (b) let the computer spew out a mock draft based on what the Ourlads people felt were a team's needs.

The biggest thing that made them different was that their computer didn't make picks according to what they thought a team and its scouts might do, but rather what they felt a team should do.Obviously, being human, they're going to have opinions that vary from what each of us think. But they do know what they are doing.

Anyway, if anyone's interested, that's "who the hell" Ourlads is.

Because he said some team will most likely make the mistake of taking him way too early in the draft.

Their Mock draft is predicting what they think teams will do. Not what they think teams should do.



These two statement seem to counter each other? Now I'm more confused, not that thats unusual either...

Also I wouldn't trade up to get him either, but the question was if he was there at 10.

 

[conraddobler]

Really with Warner signed I'm getting more used to the idea, I just didn't want the guy starting right away, I'm getting too old for more long term projects.

Now with Warner here it's a really good fit, he can learn from someone who really can play the position as well as teach it.

I still don't see us getting him, he just not going to fall that far and I don't see us moving up but hey who knows.

 

[CaliCards]

Young has nothing more to prove by throwing at the NFL Combine. His agent is smart enough to know that he must maintain the hype surrounding Young after his memorable Championship win, which will get him drafted high enough and earn him a multi-million dollar NFL contract.

But what do I know; I predicted QBs Ryan Leaf and Danny Wuerffel to have good NFL careers after they got drafted.

 

[spanky1]

Really with Warner signed I'm getting more used to the idea, I just didn't want the guy starting right away, I'm getting too old for more long term projects.

Now with Warner here it's a really good fit, he can learn from someone who really can play the position as well as teach it.

I still don't see us getting him, he just not going to fall that far and I don't see us moving up but hey who knows.

And now Don Banks over at SI is saying that Jay Cutler will be the Titans pick at #3 with Young going to the Jets at #4. ARRRGH, he still has us picking DeAngelo Williams at #10 (with the caveat....unless we pick up Edge in FA)

 

[devilalum]

Like these solid, safe, no risk picks: Ryan Leaf, Blair Thomas, Ricky Dudley, Tony Mandarich, Aundray Bruce, Steve Emtman, Brian Bosworth, Bruce Pickens, Heath Schuler, Lawrence Philips, and Antoine Davis?

The biggest sure thing bust ever was Andre Fradsworth. This guy was supposed to be the closest thing to a sure star that ever existed.

 

[JeffGollin]

Because he said some team will most likely make the mistake of taking him way too early in the draft...Their Mock draft is predicting what they think teams will do. Not what they think teams should do...These two statement seem to counter each other? Now I'm more confused, not that thats unusual either...
Dunno. My best guess is that some of the Ourlads guys do a lot of early prognosticating about what teams may be thinking, but later on turn things over to the mainframe when they prepare their final draft guide.

Or maybe they've changed.

 

[golfcardfan]

To be fair Wadsworth's career is unknown what could have been because of some unfortunate injury's