O'Brien Schofield

[Shane]

No way, I was thinking the same damn thing.

Whoa!

Do you two even watch football?

 

[Mulli]

Do you two even watch football?

I prefer to call it soccer.

 

[Dback Jon]

Maybe I'm going to much off what the announcers said but it seemed to me that he was down because of the arm/hand before the ball came out but Wallace didn't seem to argue it so maybe not.

after that brutal 4th down stop of Hillis where the ref moved the spot and gave them the first down I won't complain. They scored a couple of plays later.

Back of the hand is not down.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Maybe I'm going to much off what the announcers said but it seemed to me that he was down because of the arm/hand before the ball came out but Wallace didn't seem to argue it so maybe not.

after that brutal 4th down stop of Hillis where the ref moved the spot and gave them the first down I won't complain. They scored a couple of plays later.

Whisenhunt didn't challenge two very possible challenge worthy challenges. The spot call that you mentioned above was a clear one where I thought it wrong. The first one was on the long pass play on the first drive of the game that was very close to being out of bounds. I don't know if that one was challenge worthy or not, but it was very close.

If he does challenge both of those though and didn't win them both, he wouldn't have any challenges available on the fumble call.

 

[Big Deal]

Maybe I'm going to much off what the announcers said but it seemed to me that he was down because of the arm/hand before the ball came out but Wallace didn't seem to argue it so maybe not.

after that brutal 4th down stop of Hillis where the ref moved the spot and gave them the first down I won't complain. They scored a couple of plays later.

Yeah that was absurd, the ref was coming in on a line clearly short of the has mark, gets bumped by player, then just puts the ball down, seriously, how could the announcers have not even seen this?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Schofield is a great pass rusher. That is the hardest thing to find in a OLB'er.

Finding another OLB, to rotate in with Schofield ? That is MUCH easier. There are quite a few, dare I say "dime a dozen" washed up veteren OLB'ers that may not be able to rush the passer but, they know the system well, and can cover and be a force against the run.

ala Clark Haggans.

Acho, and Schofield take care of our need for pass rushers in our OLB position. That is a big step.

If the Cardinals are smart (debatable) then they should keep Acho, Schofield, sign a vet OLB, and sign a puss rushing OLB of the future.

Donesky.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah that was absurd, the ref was coming in on a line clearly short of the has mark, gets bumped by player, then just puts the ball down, seriously, how could the announcers have not even seen this?

What made it worse is the stupid ref lined up where the ball was spotted, short of the first down mark on one sideleine. he then walks across to the middle looking at the other side of the field to line himself up with THAT marker.

Cards player is in front of him, he moves forward a foot or so and then doesn't go back to the original line. Complete nonsense he should have looked again at what he was lining himself up with before.

But even that shouldn't have been possible because he HAD to know when he started the ball was short of the first down, so when it wound up longer, he should have instantly known he marked it wrong.

 

[Chopper0080]

I would like to see the Cardinals draft another edge rusher to give us some depth, but I do like what I have seen from Scho and Acho.

resigning Haggens and drafting Nick Perry in round 3 might turn this position into a real strength.

 

[az1965]

There was a guy that was on a 3-4 team that couldn't learn the system, was cut, couldn't hack it, etc. Can you tell me who that player might be? Hint--a LOT of good 3-4 OLBers are slow learners.

Calling someone stud before he really shows he is a stud is a bit premature... we will see if he really becomes a stud or not. The potential is there but the potential has had been there for several players.

 

[az1965]

If the Cardinals are smart (debatable) then they should keep Acho, Schofield, sign a vet OLB, and sign a puss rushing OLB of the future.

Donesky.

OK, where do I sign for that position?

 

[Stout]

Calling someone stud before he really shows he is a stud is a bit premature... we will see if he really becomes a stud or not. The potential is there but the potential has had been there for several players.

Who's calling Scho a stud? I'm just illustrating that we shouldn't write him off, because it takes a long time for players to develop at the position.

 

[Dayman]

I don't think we should get too attached to O'Brien. It doesn't sound like he's one of Whis's guys.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/150991

It's interesting to me that Whisenhunt avoids praising outside linebacker O'Brien Schofield. Whisenhunt usually tempers his comments about rookies in general, but he seems particularly reluctant to rave about Schofield. Maybe it has something to do with the questionable study habits that have cropped up from time to time. After the game, Whisenhunt was asked about Schofield's consecutive sacks in the fourth quarter.

"It's nice to see the young man make a play like that," Whisenhunt said. "Maybe that will inspire him to do more of them."

 

[Shane]

I don't think we should get too attached to O'Brien. It doesn't sound like he's one of Whis's guys.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/150991

Can you quote an article that you read about his "questionable study habits" I haven't seen one. I remember them saying he wasn't picking up the 3-4 D as quickly as they would like and that they were gonna put a wristband on him. But I dont remember questionable study habits?

It is not uncommon for a young OLB to struggle in a 3-4 I highly doubt hes going anywhere. Been getting a lot of playing time the last 4 weeks.

 

[Dayman]

Can you quote an article that you read about his "questionable study habits" I haven't seen one. I remember them saying he wasn't picking up the 3-4 D as quickly as they would like and that they were gonna put a wristband on him. But I dont remember questionable study habits?

It is not uncommon for a young OLB to struggle in a 3-4 I highly doubt hes going anywhere. Been getting a lot of playing time the last 4 weeks.

The questionable study habits part is from Somers. The link is above the quote. I hadn't heard anyone mention it before now, either.

 

[az1965]

Who's calling Scho a stud? I'm just illustrating that we shouldn't write him off, because it takes a long time for players to develop at the position.

Not you, someone else did

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2563805&postcount=5

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't think we should get too attached to O'Brien. It doesn't sound like he's one of Whis's guys.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KentSomers/150991

Good, I hope that this shows that he needs to continue to get better. One good game doesn't mean he is a finished product.

 

[GatorAZ]

I have my doubts about Courtney Upshaw. I have yet to see him show burst or explosion off the edge. Until he does, I would rather pass on a program that has been producing defensive players with real issues (Andre Smith, Rolondo McClain, Rashad Johnson, Terrance Cody).

He's not a top 10 talent but his floor is extrememly high. Your 1st round pick shouldn't be made on who's the safest prospect but you can't deny Upshaw's physicality and versatility. He plays everywhere under Saban. I really don't like 1 dimensional pass rushers who opposing teams target in the run game. His lower body strength is unreal and cannot be blown back.

With the way our D has improved it would be awesome to add another piece like Upshaw. Acho has a starter spot set in stone and i know it's easy to hand OBScho a spot after the best game of his career but i want quality depth at OLB like the Steelers. Acho/Upshaw/Schodield gives a nice power/speed combo.

Upshaw will likely be gone by our pick (Buffalo) but i'm sure there's someone we could plug in in the 3rd or 4th round. Or maybe use one of our extra late rounder to pair with our 3rd and move up into the late 2nd around the Irvin/Lindsey territory. Maybe one of the DE's from Oklahoma.

 

[Shane]

He's not a top 10 talent but his floor is extrememly high.

Do you mean ceiling?

 

[GatorAZ]

Do you mean ceiling?

Nope, i mean floor. Safe prospect.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Rememeber it takes about 18 to 24 months to fully recover from a knee injury like he had. He is at that point now so lets hope that is why we are seeing that explosion now.

 

[PJ1]

Saw him make a special teams tackle at the Rams game that demonstrated his speed. He was a blur that just appeared and ran down the returner. Very impressive speed.

Already a good pick that will just get better in my opinion.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Saw him make a special teams tackle at the Rams game that demonstrated his speed. He was a blur that just appeared and ran down the returner. Very impressive speed.

Already a good pick that will just get better in my opinion.

I saw that too

 

[Chopper0080]

He's not a top 10 talent but his floor is extrememly high. Your 1st round pick shouldn't be made on who's the safest prospect but you can't deny Upshaw's physicality and versatility. He plays everywhere under Saban. I really don't like 1 dimensional pass rushers who opposing teams target in the run game. His lower body strength is unreal and cannot be blown back.

With the way our D has improved it would be awesome to add another piece like Upshaw. Acho has a starter spot set in stone and i know it's easy to hand OBScho a spot after the best game of his career but i want quality depth at OLB like the Steelers. Acho/Upshaw/Schodield gives a nice power/speed combo.

Upshaw will likely be gone by our pick (Buffalo) but i'm sure there's someone we could plug in in the 3rd or 4th round. Or maybe use one of our extra late rounder to pair with our 3rd and move up into the late 2nd around the Irvin/Lindsey territory. Maybe one of the DE's from Oklahoma.

I think that we have that guy in Acho already which is why I say pass.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm predicting our 1st round pick to be Mike Adams from OSU and I'm not sure if that is a good thing, or not.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm predicting our 1st round pick to be Mike Adams from OSU and I'm not sure if that is a good thing, or not.

I see it heading in that direction as well. To be honest, I haven't seen enough of him to formulate an educated opinion, but at first glance it seems like a reach and need pick. I would prefer DeCastro instead if we want to upgrade the offensive line.