Official 2011 NFL Draft Thread:

Russ Smith

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Is it just me or do the draft analysts tend to say that white defensive players have high motors way more often than they say it for brothers?

Nope it's 100% true. You can count on one hand the number of non white players they say have a high motor.

I think it's completely unconscious mind you I don't think they're aware they have that bias, but they do.
 

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Nope it's 100% true. You can count on one hand the number of non white players they say have a high motor.

I think it's completely unconscious mind you I don't think they're aware they have that bias, but they do.

100%.
 

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Not only did the Cards get a stud at #5 but they also increased their chances of landing Kolb as a result of other team's moves. Carolina, Tennessee, and Minnesota all drafted QB's early and essentially are out of the running for Kolb. I don't see how any of those teams could invest a high first rounder on a QB like they did and then justify trading for Kolb. In addition, Cincinnati drafting Green could indicate that they are attempting to entice Palmer to return.

Outside of us, San Francisco, Seattle, Miami, Washington and Cincinnati to an extent appear to be the only teams left in the running for Kolb, and there is no way Philly trades Kolb to Washington. With Mallet and Dalton still on the board and expected to go in the 2nd round, it's possible that two more of the above teams are crossed off the list. Lack of competition for Kolb should bring the asking price down.

Could you imagine stocking our defensive cupboards during this years draft, then acquiring Kolb to lead the offense?

Suppose Peterson is the player to be traded to Philly for Kolb?
 

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Is it just me or do the draft analysts tend to say that white defensive players have high motors way more often than they say it for brothers?

Just you. I got sick of hearing it about Von Miller and Aldon Smith. They didn't say it about Fairley, because his motor stalls frequently. Is Suh white, because that is the description used about him.
 

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Suppose Peterson is the player to be traded to Philly for Kolb?

Then the entire front office needs to be shown the door and the coaching staff too if they signed off on it. I can't believe even Rod Graves would be that stupid.
 

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Nope it's 100% true. You can count on one hand the number of non white players they say have a high motor.

I think it's completely unconscious mind you I don't think they're aware they have that bias, but they do.

On the other hand, you can gurantee that if a black player is up they have "freakish athletecism"
 

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Then the entire front office needs to be shown the door and the coaching staff too if they signed off on it. I can't believe even Rod Graves would be that stupid.

Suppose it was Kolb and Danny Watkins, the Eagles #1 pick?
 

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I wonder why the Pats are taking up the whole alloted time considering they will have been taling through the night and all of today?
 

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The Patriots made a pick and didn't trade down AGAIN

Ras-I Dowling, never heard of him

He was highly rated the year before last year but has several injury questions around him as he has been injured regurlarly at Virginia. He had a good pro day and was climbing draft boards ever since
 

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A lot of great players are going to be available to us at 38.
 

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Dalton goes to Cincy

I think he is Max Hall, but with an adequate NFL quality arm.
 

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