Official NFL Scouting Combine 02/24/25-03/4/24

[Harry]

You just used one example out of how many? Verse, Fiske, Young, etc, all have posted good/respectable RAS & those are the first 3 that I remember instantly. Hell, look at Aaron Donald’s RAS. If he was a poor athlete/had a poor RAS, he wouldn’t be looked at as arguably the greatest defensive player of all time.

RAS isn’t the end-all, be-all. Game-tape clearly matters, but to act like RAS doesn’t matter is just foolish. Gotta get out of this old-school mindset.

Remember I had Fiske in round 2. When FSU lost their QB, he stepped up big. He forced the other teams to double team him and still made some plays. He left little doubt about what he could be.

 

[DVontel]

I'm not disagreeing with RAS at all...just pointing out the Rams don't care about it all. Check out Nacua's RAS. Check out the Miami safety they drafted. Quite a few guys with low RAS scores. My point is that game tape should still trump RAS.

The Rams do care about it. With the FO they have over there, they’re way too intelligent not to. They just don’t act like it’s the only thing to care about, which I have told Stout & you about. It just seemed like you two are dismissed it entirely.

 

[TheCardFan]

He had 39 pressures last year FYI

Thanks.

Seems like pressures can be subjective

 

[TheCardFan]

Donovan Ezeiruaku is having a solid combine to go along with solid production in 2024:

Ezeiruaku, the ACC Defensive Player of the Year in 2024, produced the fastest finish in the three-cone drill (6.94 seconds) and short shuttle (4.19 seconds) among participating defensive linemen on Thursday. Per Relative Athletic Score, Ezeriuaku's agility work ranked in the 95th percentile relative to size among edge rushers. He also added a 35.5" vertical leap while covering 9-11 in the broad jump, giving him an unofficial RAS of 8.25. The athletic profile isn't complete because he didn't run the 40-yard dash on Thursday.

During the 2024 season, Ezeiruaku produced 16.5 sacks and 61 pressures -- checking the box for high level production. By Pro Football Focus' charting, Ezeiruaku finished in the top 10 in total pressures and lead all FBS players with 20 quarterback hits last season. His pass-rush win percentage was 18.2%.

 

[football karma]

Donovan Ezeiruaku is having a solid combine to go along with solid production in 2024:

Ezeiruaku, the ACC Defensive Player of the Year in 2024, produced the fastest finish in the three-cone drill (6.94 seconds) and short shuttle (4.19 seconds) among participating defensive linemen on Thursday. Per Relative Athletic Score, Ezeriuaku's agility work ranked in the 95th percentile relative to size among edge rushers. He also added a 35.5" vertical leap while covering 9-11 in the broad jump, giving him an unofficial RAS of 8.25. The athletic profile isn't complete because he didn't run the 40-yard dash on Thursday.

During the 2024 season, Ezeiruaku produced 16.5 sacks and 61 pressures -- checking the box for high level production. By Pro Football Focus' charting, Ezeiruaku finished in the top 10 in total pressures and lead all FBS players with 20 quarterback hits last season. His pass-rush win percentage was 18.2%.

so maybe you would prefer he be 6-4, 250 instead of 6-2, 250

but he checks every box in my book, including pass rush win % > 15%

not saying him at 16, but if the Cards go a diff direction than edge at 16, getting him in Rd 2 would be pretty good

 

[BritCard]

I disagree on the Shemar Stewart stuff. His tape his full of NFL quality play and he's certainly a 1st round pick. The question is where, which really depends on how you weight different factors. I imagine some teams will have him higher than others, but I'd be surprised if several teams don't have him as a top 10 talent and I expect he will be gone by #16.

 

[Card'em]

I disagree on the Shemar Stewart stuff. His tape his full of NFL quality play and he's certainly a 1st round pick. The question is where, which really depends on how you weight different factors. I imagine some teams will have him higher than others, but I'd be surprised if several teams don't have him as a top 10 talent and I expect he will be gone by #16.

God, I hope so.

 

[Chopper0080]

Tez Johnson running a 4.5 is rough for his stock.

 

[oaken1]

Tez Johnson running a 4.5 is rough for his stock.

Agree... was expecting something like 4.36 or so from him.
But he got open in college...now evaluators have to go back and see which schemes and personnel he got open against...but that might bump him from round 2 to round 3

 

[GatorAZ]

T-Mac waiting for his pro day. Poop.

 

[BritCard]

RAS matters.

Only 20% of players have a RAS over 8 but they make up 59% of Pro Bowl players since 2000.

Those below 5, which is around 50% of of all players, make up around 12% of Pro Bowl players.

There's a huge increased probability of hitting on a star if you draft 8 and over.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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Arizona State RB Cam Skattebo officially measured out with a height of 5094 and weight of 219 at the #NFLCombine.

 

[Ronin]

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[Krangodnzr]

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I think Skattebo is going to be a player in the NFL, but I think his best role is utility guy. He's got heart and he's tough as nails.

 

[Stout]

Here’s the thing

Nobody is doing that dude. Nobody is taking a guy *just because* of his RAS score. Film & is the guy coachable still matters the most at the end of the day. However, athleticism is still a big factor in sports. Nobody wants a team full of poor athletes.

Right. So, like I said, if a player is tied on my board, I'd perhaps turn to RAS as a tie breaker. No way would I (or should anyone) say, "Man, I had this guy rated early 2nd, but now he's in play at 16 because of his RAS." And you can't tell me there aren't scouts and/or GMs that would do something like that.

 

[Stout]

I’m thinking Monti’s strategy will be accumulating draft picks early and often.

I wouldn’t be surprised in two moves backwards in the first round if the opportunity presents itself.

I’m of the opinion I would like a draft haul akin to last year given enough spots available.

Yep, because we've proven that Draft Picks wins games. Trading back from talent for more lesser talent is a great strategy when you have the guy who can't pick out the talent properly, right?

 

[Stout]

There have sadly been great athletes who never quite blossomed into impact players. So much has to do with little things, like taking the best angles. Sensing when to switch from an outside to an inside move can be critical. I’ve been told so often that the difference between a star and an ordinary player is found in small details. I think that’s why scouts tell me college sacks are the biggest factor in predicting NFL success. I understand what your saying but he could also only be a 6 sack player. At this point he’s just potential.

Well stated, Harry.

 

[Stout]

The Rams do care about it. With the FO they have over there, they’re way too intelligent not to. They just don’t act like it’s the only thing to care about, which I have told Stout & you about. It just seemed like you two are dismissed it entirely.

Reread what I posted, my guy.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

NFL Combine Day 3 Risers and Fallers: Quarterbacks, Receivers and Running Backs

Most of the QB prospects failed to improve their draft stock Saturday—with one notable exception. Several wide receivers stuck out, however.

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[CardNots]

Yep, because we've proven that Draft Picks wins games. Trading back from talent for more lesser talent is a great strategy when you have the guy who can't pick out the talent properly, right?

Simply stating what i see coming. It’s basically preparing myself

 

[Krangodnzr]

Right. So, like I said, if a player is tied on my board, I'd perhaps turn to RAS as a tie breaker. No way would I (or should anyone) say, "Man, I had this guy rated early 2nd, but now he's in play at 16 because of his RAS." And you can't tell me there aren't scouts and/or GMs that would do something like that.

I don't know. Generally some player is a 2nd round picks because of some questions about them or maybe value, but a high RAS is actually a reason to consider them round one. I'm way more leery of guys who weren't even 2nd rounders jumping up, or guys who weren't particularly productive.

Nkemdiche was a freakish athlete who wasn't productive. That's the kind of guy I don't want to take. Shemar Stewart just wasn't good enough at finishing for me to be excited about him as a round one pick. Sure the pressures are there, but you have to ask yourself if he ends up being th same player he was in college, would you be happy with a guy who gets 4.5 sacks in three years?

 

[football karma]

Tez Johnson running a 4.5 is rough for his stock.

kinda player who IMO would be a good fit for the Cards -- but not before rd 3

im ok with the 4.5

edit: i see he weighs only 154 lbs. thats concerning

 

[Krangodnzr]

RAS matters.

Only 20% of players have a RAS over 8 but they make up 59% of Pro Bowl players since 2000.

Those below 5, which is around 50% of of all players, make up around 12% of Pro Bowl players.

There's a huge increased probability of hitting on a star if you draft 8 and over.

Right. It does matter. So don't really look much at players below an 8. But if you have a guy who scored a 8.8 who was highly productive vs a guy who scored a 9.6 but wasn't, who do you pick?

 

[BritCard]

Right. It does matter. So don't really look much at players below an 8. But if you have a guy who scored a 8.8 who was highly productive vs a guy who scored a 9.6 but wasn't, who do you pick?

It's not so simple. If the 8.8 guy is in the Sunbelt and the 9.6 guy is in the SEC...

But generally the 8.8 guy.