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Nov 10 - The Dodgers are in the market for a bat. They have expressed interest in veteran outfielder Luis Gonzalez, and they could pursue center fielder and Southland native Jim Edmonds if the Cardinals do not exercise his option, the Los Angeles Times. The Dodgers also could join the Angels in pursuing center fielder Gary Matthews Jr.
 
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From a sabermetrics stand point a closer is a waste of money and talent. It's been a while since I read the book but a very, very low number of games are actually lost in the 9th inning regardless of who is pitching.

I can't for sure say that Byrnes is a sabermetricist but this will be a good indicater based upon who our closer for 2007 is.

The problem with this is that the pitcher has to be talented enough not to get himself in trouble in the ninth. I completely agree that you don't want to over pay for a closer and that you can inflate the trade value of a closer by trading them after a very successful season and that as long as you have another talented pitcher in the system to take his place you will be fine. It's not like we could plug anyone into the role and be fine I don't think that was Billy Beane's point in that book. I think his entire point was that the closer position can be overvalued dollar wise. The pitcher still has to have talent. The bullpen for that matter has to have talent. Sabermetricists believe that you should use your most talented pitcher in the bullpen at any point that the lead can be lost because its just as crucial to save a lead in the 6th as it is in the 9th.
 

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As for Foulke, agent Dan Horwits said the 34-year-old reliever spent the last two days trying to make his decision, but in the end, "Keith decided he wanted to pitch closer to home [in Arizona]."
There is a possibility Foulke might get his wish. Former Sox assistant GM Josh Byrnes, who had so much to do with bringing Foulke to Boston prior to the 2004 season, might entertain another go-around now that he's the Diamondbacks' GM.
"I think we would have to look into it," Byrnes said. "We're always looking for good players at good value."
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/11/11/sox_said_to_have_high_bid/?page=2
 

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Hot stove heats up

Jocketty, assistant general manager John Mozeliak, executive director of professional scouting Bruce Manno and vice president of player personnel Jerry Walker will travel today to Naples, Fla., site of the general managers meetings.

Jocketty met this week with Gregg Clifton, agent for lefthander Mark Mulder, but said Friday he did not expect a resolution soon.

Clifton said 13 teams have expressed interest in Mulder, who underwent rotator cuff surgery in August. The Cardinals have discussed a one-year deal with a club option similar to that accepted by Matt Morris following his shoulder surgery in December 2004. Mulder prefers a one-year deal with either a mutual option or none at all.

"I think it's going to be a busy couple of weeks," Clifton said, "From what we've been told by the teams we have talked to, we can expect a potpourri of options. I think Mark owes it to himself to sit back and really go through the options."

The Arizona Diamondbacks, New York Mets and Baltimore Orioles are probably the Redbirds' chief competition for Mulder.

Clifton also represents free agent outfielder Luis Gonzalez, believed to be leaning heavily toward signing a one-year deal with the Cardinals shortly after the market opens.

Gonzalez, 39, has told associates he would prefer to play in St. Louis. He also made inquiries about the organization while serving as an analyst for Fox during the postseason.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sp...76E9991F78894F7E86257222007AC24D?OpenDocument
 

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The whole messy Gonzo situation with management.

I thought it was widely known that the Dbacks handled the Gonzo situation great. We were straight forward and let him know well before the season was over that we weren't bringing him back. It wasn't messy at all. If we waited till now (FA filing period) then it would have been messy

Also, an agent won't negotitate with certain teams simply because one of his clients wasn't dealt with right. He will be looking for the best financial deal for Mulder and if the Dbacks offer is good enough, he will def do business with Moorad and Co. That wouldn't be fair to Mulder.
 

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I thought it was widely known that the Dbacks handled the Gonzo situation great. We were straight forward and let him know well before the season was over that we weren't bringing him back. It wasn't messy at all.
The only thing messy about it was Managing General Partner Ken Kendricks hinting that Gonzo might have used steroids.

Was it because Kendricks is a butt-hole . . . or was it a scheme to get him to leave?

We'll never know. Either way, I'm sure it left a negative taste about our ownership group.
 

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That wasn't good but Kendrick is an idiot. After that PR nightmare he has been no where to be found. He's usually always in the paper this time of year talking about financials and who we can afford and not afford. The business side of it was handled fine on the Dbacks part. Byrnes and Moorad handled it perfectly- let Gonzo know as soon as possible.
 

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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6165654

NAPLES, Fla. - Notes from the general managers' meetings:

Third baseman Aramis Ramirez actually is guaranteed $75 million in his new five-year deal with the Cubs, not the $73 million that was initially reported.
The extra $2 million, according to sources with knowledge of the contract, comes from a buyout if the team fails to exercise his option for 2013.

Ramirez received full no-trade protection for the first four years of his deal, the sources said, and his contract stipulates that any team that acquires him in the fifth year will be obligated to exercise his sixth-year option.

Believe it or not, the Cubs again granted Ramirez an escape clause, this time after his fourth year instead of after his second. The risk isn't as great; Ramirez figures to be less attractive at 32 than he was at 28.

While the Angels were believed to be the team most interested in Ramirez if he tested the free-agent market, the Orioles, Padres, Giants and Phillies were perhaps more willing to meet Ramirez's desire for a six-year deal, sources said.


The Cubs still want to add two starting pitchers, and free-agent left-hander Ted Lilly appears to be one of their principal targets. The team has made early contact with Lilly's agent, Larry O'Brien, who describes the Cubs as an "intriguing" possibility.
O'Brien is familiar with new Cubs manager Lou Piniella; his brother, former major-league first baseman Pete O'Brien, played for Piniella with the Mariners in 1993.

Lilly, 30, also is drawing significant interest from NL West clubs, O'Brien said. Lilly might prefer a west-coast team; his wife, Tasha, will be a third-year veterinary student at the University of California at Davis next season.


The White Sox are fielding calls on each of their five veteran starters, and several rival executives believe that GM Ken Williams could move quickly on a trade.

Righties Freddy Garcia and Javier Vazquez and lefty Mark Buehrle are signed through 2007, while righty Jon Garland is under contract through '08 and righty Jose Contreras through '09.

The Rangers are one potential trade partner; the Sox probably would want one of the Rangers' pitching prospects and another young player in return.

Williams can proceed without restriction in his trade discussions; none of the Sox's starting pitchers has no-trade protection.


The Pirates are another club that could trade a starting pitcher; their rotation includes three left-handers —Zach Duke, Paul Maholm and Tom Gorzelanny — with less than two years of service time.
Such pitchers are immensely coveted, but difficult to part with. The Pirates would prefer to move a reliever — their three left-handed relief specialists include closer Mike Gonzalez. But starters have greater trade value.

The Pirates, who want to add a left-handed hitting slugger at right field or first base, surely would be tempted if they could acquire such a bat — the Diamondbacks' Chad Tracy, for example — for one of their starting pitchers.

Free-agent possibilities such as Trot Nixon and Aubrey Huff are likely to be snapped up by more competitive clubs.


One GM with interest in free-agent outfielder Dave Roberts anticipates that the Brewers will make a strong push to sign Roberts to bat leadoff and play center field.
By signing Roberts or free-agent center fielder Juan Pierre, the Brewers further would increase their outfield depth, raising the possibility that Geoff Jenkins and/or Kevin Mench could be traded. Roberts, however, is in heavy demand; the Mets, Braves, Dodgers and White Sox are among the other teams interested.

Bill Hall, who impressed GM Doug Melvin with his outfield play during the major-league All-Star tour of Japan, is perhaps the Brewers' leading candidate to play left.


Infielder Craig Counsell is another popular free agent. The Padres are one of several clubs that view him as a potential regular at second. Other teams like him as a super-utility man. One — believed to be the Blue Jays — wants him as an everyday shortstop.
Counsell, 36, would prefer to play for a contender, according to his agent, Barry Meister. His savvy play and outstanding makeup make him an excellent fit for a winning club.


Free-agent first baseman Nomar Garciaparra won't lack for options if he fails to reach an agreement to return to the Dodgers.
Garciaparra could fit at first base for the Yankees, Orioles and Indians, and the Padres are interested in signing him to play second.


In addition to pursuing a left-handed hitting first baseman, the Tigers also might need to acquire a veteran left-handed reliever to replace free agent Jamie Walker; the two sides are far apart in negotiations, according to a source with knowledge of the talks.
Left-hander Wilfredo Ledezma again could contribute out of the bullpen next season. Lefty Andrew Miller, who joined the Tigers' bullpen in September after the team made him its first-round draft pick in June, is likely to open as a starter at Class A.
 

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What pitchers does Pittsburgh have? Zach Duke is the only guy that I like. We need a lefty behind Webby.
 
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You're probably right, but it's a deal I would definately be willing to make. Guys like Tracy are replacable. Young lefty pitchers aren't.

True but we def wouldn't get Duke in any deal involving Tracy. I'm not sure what else they have..... Plus I want to give Tracy another season. He was a hige dissapointment last season, this is his make or break year
 

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*A source told The Toronto Sun that Ted Lilly is seeking a four-year deal worth $9 million per year. The Blue Jays have expressed interest in re-signing Lilly, and the left-hander has indicated he wouldn't mind returning to Toronto, but GM J.P. Ricciardi said late last season that an asking price of $8 million or more per year might be too steep for the team to re-sign the left-hander. The free-agent market for pitchers isn't strong, which means Lilly could be a target of multiple teams after a 15-win season. Lilly has said in the past that we would like to pitch on the West Coast, but he's not limiting his options. The lefty made $4 million in 2006, but he will surely get a pay raise after a career year.

*The St. Petersburg Times reported that the Rays were one of 13 teams who have contacted Mark Mulder's agent. The Bergen Record and the Newark (N.J.) Star-Ledger reported that the Mets continue to show interest in Mulder. The picture for Mulder looks a lot different than it did in May, when he figured to be one of the most appealing starters on the market. Instead, 2007 will likely be a make-good year for Mulder, who had shoulder surgery late in the year. The Cardinals are interested in bringing him back, and he's interested in returning. He may not be fully ready to go by Opening Day, complicating matters further.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/...ontent_id=1736744&vkey=hotstove2006&fext=.jsp
 

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No way does Lilly deserve that much, but after last offseason it wouldn't shock me if someone was stupid enough to give him that.
 

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True but we def wouldn't get Duke in any deal involving Tracy. I'm not sure what else they have..... Plus I want to give Tracy another season. He was a hige dissapointment last season, this is his make or break year

I've seen all three pitch live, and I'll tell you this much-- both Tom Gorzelanny and Paul Maholm have bigger upsides than Duke. This isn't a slight on Zach by any means, but in the long run, both of the afforementioned are Staff Ace material, where as Duke is more of a very good #2 (see Tom Glavine)
 

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I've seen all three pitch live, and I'll tell you this much-- both Tom Gorzelanny and Paul Maholm have bigger upsides than Duke. This isn't a slight on Zach by any means, but in the long run, both of the afforementioned are Staff Ace material, where as Duke is more of a very good #2 (see Tom Glavine)

I forgot about Maholm. When was he drafted, I've heard his name come up in trade talks every now and then.
 

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Per Gambo & Ash, we're going after Randy Wolf. Gambo says expect something maybe to be done soon at $5-6 million per year.

EDIT: and if we can 2 out of Gorzelanny, Maholm and Mike Gonzalez for Chad Tracy, I think we'd be crazy not to.
 
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Per Gambo & Ash, we're going after Randy Wolf. Gambo says expect something maybe to be done soon at $5-6 million per year.

EDIT: and if we can 2 out of Gorzelanny, Maholm and Mike Gonzalez for Chad Tracy, I think we'd be crazy not to.

I had a weird feeling we would sign him (if indeed Gambo is right). I just heard Gambo say that we offered him somewhere around $5-6 million per year. My reasoning is that he is a similar signing to that of Mark Mulder- a typical Josh Byrnes type signing, sign low and hope for production. He came back in the 2nd half of this season from Tommy John surgery and had no health issues come up. He is also a lefty which we badly need

If true, this likely means Mark Mulder won't be coming here. I would highly doubt Byrnes would sign 2 guys with health issues but you never know. From everything I've read, it seems more and more that Mulder is leaning towards NYM. His old pitching coach from STL is now with the Mets and I'm sure he likes their chances of going deep in next years postseason




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LHP Randy Wolf, Phillies
Wolf returned from Tommy John elbow reconstruction surgery on July 30 and made 12 starts, encountering the usual dips that come with relearning his craft. Throwing 90-100 pitches wasn't an issue for his arm; the problem was that he ran that count up by the fifth inning. Still, at 30, and having proved his health, Wolf should draw interest. One of those teams is the Phillies, who are on record that they would like him to fill out their rotation.

Career pitching stats-

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/mlb_individual_stats_player.jsp?playerID=150116&statType=2

There are some concerns here- Wolf has only over 160 IP in 4 of his 8 seasons. He has also only started more then 25 games in 4 of his 8 seasons. Thats not good at all. However, I would def rather sign Wolf then trade for Rodrigo Lopez (Of whom I want nothing to do with).
 
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