Oleg Saprykin, Yanic Perreault traded

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Saprykin was just traded to Ottawa for a second round pick. What a freaking joke. He's only 26 years old and having a breakout year and he's given up for a second rounder? The odds of a second round pick becoming as good as Saprykin already is is only about 20-25% (http://hockeyanalysis.com/?p=316). This might be the worst trade Barnett has made in a long time.
 
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Yanic Perreault and a 5th rounder were also sent to Toronto for a 2nd rounder and defensive prospect Brendan Bell.
 
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The Coyotes also claimed Niko Kapanen off of waivers. He's a mildly useful bottom liner with a little potential still untapped.
 
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Barring any last minute trades, it appears that Cujo, Nolan, and Roenick will all remain part of the Coyotes.
 

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Im sorry, but re-signing a 35 y/o career journeyman like Kevyn Adams, but then dealing a younger player who finally found a home and breaking thru (Saprykin), proves how inept Barrett is......

If anyone is able to spin and justify the reasoning behind these moves, then they deserve a Nobel Prize in every possible category.... I just cannot follow his logic.... Also, he deal Perreault? Lord..... it proves how horrible of a negotiators that the Coyotes are that they couldnt lock him to a 1-2 yr deal.. that guy has been playing "lights-out".....

Oh well.. these pathetic moves have set back the Yotes another 2-yrs... I just cant fathom why Barrett is still GM? Does he have some uncompromising photos of Jerry Moyes and Jeff "Alf" Shumway..... Or he probably knows more about the gambling controversy..... Oh well...... must suffer a few more years of absolutely no direction.. unless someone else finally intervenes...... If it's Wayne making these moves, then I question his motives as well..
 

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It's very difficult to be a Coyotes fan these days. Terrible roster, and a front office that has turned a perennial playoff team into a joke. Maybe there are a few other 35 year olds we can bring in...:rolleyes:
 

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Saprykin trade was horrible. I realize that he only signed a one year deal again this last offseason so he's expendible to the Coyotes. Maybe they put a deal in front of him and Adams tooks it and Saprykin didn't.

Don't forget Saprykin and Perreault will be UFAs this offseason. They could come back and I suppose the odds of signing them isn't much different now.
 
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Saprykin trade was horrible. I realize that he only signed a one year deal again this last offseason so he's expendible to the Coyotes. Maybe they put a deal in front of him and Adams tooks it and Saprykin didn't.

Don't forget Saprykin and Perreault will be UFAs this offseason. They could come back and I suppose the odds of signing them isn't much different now.
I believe that Saprykin is an RFA, but I'm not 100% on that.
 
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According to Gretzky on TSN, they purposely loaded up on 2008 picks as they feel it will be a very strong draft. He also has been harping on building from within, and that they will not be going out and signing a lot of 32 or 33 year old free agents.
 
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Mike Brophy from The Hockey News seems to think that Perreault will re-sign with the Coyotes in the offseason. It makes sense, he has owned a house here for several years. Perreault was on TSN after the trade and seemed to be non-committal one way or another, saying something like he would "if something works out."
 

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According to Gretzky on TSN, they purposely loaded up on 2008 picks as they feel it will be a very strong draft. He also has been harping on building from within, and that they will not be going out and signing a lot of 32 or 33 year old free agents.

True, they might be amassing all these draft choices....however... Will they be drafting players who are in the age range of 17-19 (who will either elect to play college hockey or go to another developmental league).. or will they draft NHL ready players? That's the question......

If they elect the former...what are they going to do in the meantime? Hanzel, Wheeler, and Mueller seem to be 2 years away... so.. who will bridge the gap between now and perhaps.. let's say arbitarily 2011-2012?

And they have re-committed signing retreads by giving Kevyn Adams (a 35 y/o whos been injured for the most part since joining the Yotes) to a 1-year deal.....

True, I wanted Perreault to be retained, but he's the type of player who seems to improve with age........
 
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True, they might be amassing all these draft choices....however... Will they be drafting players who are in the age range of 17-19 (who will either elect to play college hockey or go to another developmental league).. or will they draft NHL ready players? That's the question......

If they elect the former...what are they going to do in the meantime? Hanzel, Wheeler, and Mueller seem to be 2 years away... so.. who will bridge the gap between now and perhaps.. let's say arbitarily 2011-2012?

And they have re-committed signing retreads by giving Kevyn Adams (a 35 y/o whos been injured for the most part since joining the Yotes) to a 1-year deal.....

True, I wanted Perreault to be retained, but he's the type of player who seems to improve with age........
You don't draft NHL ready players, period. Outside of the very top five or so picks, they simply don't exist.

Edit: there is an excellent chance Mueller will be with the Coyotes next year. Hanzal will probably be in the AHL for a year, but Wheeler might still be a few years away. He's really progressing in Minnesota though.
 

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I can't find any information on Saprykin except that he signed a "One-year qualifying offer" last July.
 

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You don't draft NHL ready players, period. Outside of the very top five or so picks, they simply don't exist.

Edit: there is an excellent chance Mueller will be with the Coyotes next year. Hanzal will probably be in the AHL for a year, but Wheeler might still be a few years away. He's really progressing in Minnesota though.

That's the main drawback with the Yotes... they've been horrible for so long, however, not horrible enough..... Obviously meaning.. they always draft in the mid 1st-round..... Im not advocating for them to lose enough so they're in the top-5, but this talent pool in recent drafts havent been nearly as deep.. or albeit poor scouting by the team to to draft players who elevate this team to the next level........

I just dont have confidence in the Yotes scouting staff.... Sorry.... I just cannot think anything positive of this organization at this time... Again, I've tried plenty of times, but to have everything dashed... oh well.....

I just watch Crosby and Malkin flourish in Pittsburgh...and Semin along with Ovechekin excel in Washington.. but the only team I root/follow/support are content with picking-up retreads.....

Also, if the Yotes are waiting until 2011 to finally field a worthy NHL team.. they wont be able to generate any revenue because no one would be willing to invest in season tickets to watch a team full of rejects... They didnt capitalize on the fact that they opened a new arena (Jobing.Com)... They just dont seem to get it whatsoever....
 
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hockeytraderumors.com says that he's an RFA, but I'm not convinced their list is accurate either.
 

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According to Gretzky on TSN, they purposely loaded up on 2008 picks as they feel it will be a very strong draft. He also has been harping on building from within, and that they will not be going out and signing a lot of 32 or 33 year old free agents.

Looks like we are going to have a few years of experiencing the bottom of the NHL standings... and I mean the very bottom. At least we will get high draft picks... :shrug:
 

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And another thing, why on earth did we get a young defense man? That is something that we DO have.
 
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The Yanic deal isn't so bad, especially since he's hinted at wanting to return. That being said, however...why on earth did we send Saprykin to Ottawa? That makes NO SENSE! He's 26, having a great year, and has been mentioned as being one of this year's MVPs.

Re-freaking-diculous.
 
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Interestingly enough, the Ottawa fans don't seem to like the Saprykin deal either. Pretty unusual to have a trade that almost nobody on either side likes.
 
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Now that we know Nolan is staying, the Coyotes better sign him to a one year extension.
 
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According to Mike Barnett, Oleg Saprykin was moved due to his contract demands. The two sides were far apart and Saprykin apparently threatened to hold out or bolt for back home this summer. If that's true, looks like the Russians strike again. It doesn't necessarily make the trade look much better (although it isn't bad value), but it does make the trade more understandable.
 
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