One of the biggest needs in the draft - RB

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No I loved the pick. He was the BPA and will solidify our OL for many years to come.

Look at all of the RBs drafted late that have had success in the NFL. That's all I'm arguing.

Look at all of the LT's drafted late that have had success in the NFL...Look at all the....


That argument can be made for any position. There is no magic formula to the draft where you take X position in these rounds and Y position in these rounds. If the value is there and it makes your team better, pull the trigger. Just like we did with J.Cooper.

We were 28th in YPA this season, .1 YPC away from being 30th. Ellington can't carry the load and Mendenhall averaged 3.1 YPC. S.Taylor (3.2 YPC) as much as I liked him coming out of college didn't show anything that would lead me to believe he can do anything more. Considering that BA kept him on the sidelines, he apparently feels the same way.
 
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Fixing the OL is priority #1, no doubt. Getting Cooper back and adding a LT in FA or RD 1 goes a LONG way in doing that. Jurecki seems to be VERY confident that we'll target one in FA, which depending on how the draft unfolds, if Im the GM I take a top TE in RD1.

The 6 backs listed in the OP all have RD2 talent, but if one is still on the board in RD3, I jump on it.

...and just to get even more controversial, I'd look at a CB in Rd1 also. Justin Gilbert would look great next to PP21 with Honey Badger roaming around behind them or in the slot. Pin your ears back and go forward front 7, here we come!
I've watched Justin Gilbert since he was a freshman, and this guy has MAJOR talent. Wjth him we would have the 2 best young corners in the league. Plus, Gilbert is a STUD returner on kicks and punts!!! KR were abysmal this year..........:mad:
 

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Only had time to read the first page of this thread and agree with most of it. But I just want to remind everyone of our need for a SS, who is able to cover TE's. TE's seemed to be our nemesis.
 

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Look at all of the LT's drafted late that have had success in the NFL...Look at all the....


That argument can be made for any position. There is no magic formula to the draft where you take X position in these rounds and Y position in these rounds. If the value is there and it makes your team better, pull the trigger. Just like we did with J.Cooper.

We were 28th in YPA this season, .1 YPC away from being 30th. Ellington can't carry the load and Mendenhall averaged 3.1 YPC. S.Taylor (3.2 YPC) as much as I liked him coming out of college didn't show anything that would lead me to believe he can do anything more. Considering that BA kept him on the sidelines, he apparently feels the same way.

I don't think our RB's are as big an issue as the Oline. Sure Juke has a very good avg. but BA did a good job of cherry picking his opportunities as well.

Thing is with RB's that teams are rarely taking them in rd1 anymore. So the point is more talent can be found in RB's later in the draft than most other positions, at least that's been the trend for the past 4 or 5 years.

Our best RB on the team was drafted in the 6th rd.
 

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What exactly is wrong with our offensive line? Palmer had plenty of time all season and our runners had room to run. And this was starting two street FA's. We maybe need one lineman in the 2014 Draft assuming Cooper is in good health. QB/TE/Pass Rusher/Secondary in some order.
 

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What exactly is wrong with our offensive line? Palmer had plenty of time all season and our runners had room to run. And this was starting two street FA's. We maybe need one lineman in the 2014 Draft assuming Cooper is in good health. QB/TE/Pass Rusher/Secondary in some order.

Which goes to show that those of us who believed Russ Grimm was the problem were right. I sure hope the Texans hire Whisenhunt though that miracle for the Chargers yesterday may keep him from getting the job as the Texans will have to wait until SD is out of the playoffs to talk to him.
 

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What exactly is wrong with our offensive line? Palmer had plenty of time all season and our runners had room to run. And this was starting two street FA's. We maybe need one lineman in the 2014 Draft assuming Cooper is in good health. QB/TE/Pass Rusher/Secondary in some order.

It played much better in the 2nd half but the OL played a big role in limiting play calling all year IMO.

If we can get a LT in FA there's a good argument to make to not pick an OL high but with our pick if someone like Yankey is sitting there and you're confident you can get Albert in FA, then you can bring in Albert, Cooper and Yankey in one year and upgrade LT, LG and RG in one offseason.
 

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OK, I know Im going to get lambasted here for saying this, but I see RB as a bid need in the off season. That's not to say its more pertinent than LT by any means, but I see it up there with TE & QBOF.

I LOVE Ellington, but by no means is he an every down back that can carry the load with 250+ carries. Outside of Ellington we have Mendenhall and his 3.1 YPC average and S.Taylor with a whopping 115 yards this season and a 3.2 YPC average. That's pathetic.

No way would I go RB in Rd1 or for that matter rd2, but I'd be all over any of these backs in Rd3

1.) Ka'dem Carey
2.) Lache Seastrunk
3.) Carlos Hyde
4.) Bishop Sankey
5.) Tre Mason
6.) Andre Williams

Bring back J.Cooper, A new LT in FA along with a top tier TE in RD1 like Ebron/Amaro or Sefarius-Jenkins and a RB in RD3 to go long side Ellington and this offense can be LEGIT! But, without that new RB it's one dimensional.

Mendenhall may only average 3.2 yds a carry but that is often when you need 3 yds at the goal line. The guy is fearless and will give you his all every time. I like him. however, you can never have to many RB's
 

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If Carey comes out he will be taken in the 2nd round. Sankey could be available in the 3rd round.

I must admit I have no clue who we will draft or what position he may play. I do not know what our backup QBs now are thought of by our coaches. If they like him then do not draft another backup. If they do not then it is crucial you find one and quick as you never know when your starter may go down. To bad we do not have McCown. I think he is a FA. I would guess they will take th BPA.
 

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Mendenhall may only average 3.2 yds a carry but that is often when you need 3 yds at the goal line. The guy is fearless and will give you his all every time. I like him. however, you can never have to many RB's

Aren't short yardage/goal line situations why we have Taylor though?
 

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There's a bunch of solid RB's in FA this year too. Heck Joique Bell is a FA although apparently restricted.

But Ben Tate, James Starks, Rashad Jennings, Jonathan Dwyer are all currently slated to be FA's.
 
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There's a bunch of solid RB's in FA this year too. Heck Joique Bell is a FA although apparently restricted.

But Ben Tate, James Starks, Rashad Jennings, Jonathan Dwyer are all currently slated to be FA's.

No thank you to any of those
 
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Mendenhall may only average 3.2 yds a carry but that is often when you need 3 yds at the goal line. The guy is fearless and will give you his all every time. I like him. however, you can never have to many RB's

The 10-12 goal line carries he had didn't skew his average that much. The reason for the worst ave yards/carry among NFL starting RB's is that he's lost his burst. If I can get fresh legs in rd3 with rd2 talent, YES PLEASE
 

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No thank you to any of those

They're all between 25 and 28 years old, all of them big enough to take the load Mendenhall did and all of them faster than Mendenhall.

Bell is a bit of a fumbler but a terrific player. I think Tate, Bell and Jennings are the best of the lot but jennings is 28, Tate probably wants too much and Bell is an RFA and probably won't be worth the cost.

Starks is probably the guy I'd target if it were me. I'm not opposed to drafting a RB just don't think I'd take one very early. I do like Carey though I just think he'll go earlier than we should be picking a RB.
 

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What exactly is wrong with our offensive line? Palmer had plenty of time all season and our runners had room to run. And this was starting two street FA's. We maybe need one lineman in the 2014 Draft assuming Cooper is in good health. QB/TE/Pass Rusher/Secondary in some order.

Cards tied for 5th worst avg per rush at 3.6

Cards tied for 14th for sacks allowed with 41.

I still can't find QB hurries, hits and pressures stats but I'd bet they weren't great.

Now CP did have more time as the season progressed but as Russ pointed out it's because we had to keep extra blockers in to help in pass pro. I would add that BA called shorter routes as well to get the ball out quicker.

How about all the jumbo TE packages with Massie and at times Potter coming to help with the run game.

I give credit to all the Olinemen because they fought their tails off but a infusion of talent is desperately needed.
 

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Cards have a one or no back system - drafting a high round RB is not the best and highest use

Needs LT, TE, QBOF
 

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I watched Carey in his bowl game and he's good but I think he's too similar to Ellington for Cardinal purposes. If we draft a RB, I want a bigger RB like Hyde.
 

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