One of the biggest needs in the draft - RB

[sundevil04]

Wouldn't shock me to see Mendy back at a managable number. He proved himself as very average and will not have a line of teams looking to pay him

unfortunately I agree

 

[sundevil04]

If I had my way in the draft, it would look something like this assuming we get an LT in FA

1.) E.Ebron/J.Amaro/A.Sefarius-Jenkins or Justin Gilbert (cb)
2.) Zach Mettenberger or Trent Murphey
3.) any of the 6 Rb's listed in the OP

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

What's all this talk about needing a RB when we have a high 2nd rounder sitting on our bench just waiting to break out?

 

[Cardiac]

Get a FA LT if we can fit it in the CAP. If not we have to draft a LT in Rd1 or Rd2.

OLBer/pass rusher may be even a bigger need than LT.

TE is the 3rd biggest need on the team. Housler can't be counted on and if Dray is one of your starting TE's then Houston we have a problem.

DB is next, and with Cason and Arenas on 1 year deals and possibly moving on CB may be needed more than Safety. But then Bell is ancient and HB may not be ready until well into the season.

Now RB can enter the conversation with RT, OG, OC and speed WR as needs.

 

[sundevil04]

Get a FA LT if we can fit it in the CAP. If not we have to draft a LT in Rd1 or Rd2.

OLBer/pass rusher may be even a bigger need than LT.

TE is the 3rd biggest need on the team. Housler can't be counted on and if Dray is one of your starting TE's then Houston we have a problem.

DB is next, and with Cason and Arenas on 1 year deals and possibly moving on CB may be needed more than Safety. But then Bell is ancient and HB may not be ready until well into the season.

Now RB can enter the conversation with RT, OG, OC and speed WR as needs.

I agree with all of that for the most part, but I don't think you can set your needs list and draft by that. I think you need to factor n what the draft has to offer. This draft is very top heavy with OLB/passrusher talent, so unless you're draafting at the top of rd1 you'll be reaching for one that likley isn't more talented that S.Acho or A.Okafor.

This draft is very heavy with Rd2 talent at RB, so you can find good value on one in Rd3, but likely all gone by Rd4.

 

[Cardiac]

I agree with all of that for the most part, but I don't think you can set your needs list and draft by that. I think you need to factor n what the draft has to offer. This draft is very top heavy with OLB/passrusher talent, so unless you're draafting at the top of rd1 you'll be reaching for one that likley isn't more talented that S.Acho or A.Okafor.

This draft is very heavy with Rd2 talent at RB, so you can find good value on one in Rd3, but likely all gone by Rd4.

Good counter point. While Keim says we will draft BPA I think he also uses a weighted board so we may be passing on the BPA in rd 3 who happens to be a RB to select a TE who is a graded a bit lower than the RB.

 

[Gee!]

As for the draft, Carlos Hyde in round 3, doubt he's there, would be an absolute steal and a perfect compliment to this offense.

One of my buddies at my job is a Ohio St fan.. We had this debate all season.. Carey vs Hyde.. I have watched a lot of Hyde.. He isn't no Carey..

 

[Gee!]

BTW.. Cards don't need a RB .. Least thing we need in the draft..

 

[Chopper0080]

I agree with all of that for the most part, but I don't think you can set your needs list and draft by that. I think you need to factor n what the draft has to offer. This draft is very top heavy with OLB/passrusher talent, so unless you're draafting at the top of rd1 you'll be reaching for one that likley isn't more talented that S.Acho or A.Okafor.

This draft is very heavy with Rd2 talent at RB, so you can find good value on one in Rd3, but likely all gone by Rd4.

I actually really like the conversion OLB class after round 1...Trevor Reilly-Utah, Scott Crichton-Oregon St., Kareem Martin-North Carolina, Demarcus Lawrence-Boise St., Aaron Lynch-South Florida, Marcus Smith-Louisville, Larry Webster-Bloomsburg, and Michael Sam-Missouri. All after round 1 and have good fit potential.

 

[sundevil04]

Kareem Martin , I really like a lot. I guess my arguement against a mid tier OLB for this team is taht we're already going to be adding two of those to the team next year with A.Okafor and S.Acho coming back. If there was a legit top tier OLB available in RD1, then Im all for it, but drafting at #20, that's unlikley.

 

[Brian]

We all know the road to the playoffs goes through Seattle and San Fran. They both have two things in common:

They have very physical offensive lines, and they both have a very physical running attack.

Our defense proved the last two weeks we can match that and shut down their run game BUT we don't run against them well enough.

Mendenhall was pedestrian this year. See ya, have a nice life. We need a physical, punishing runner that will keep defenses honest. Enter Andre Williams. The guy is a truck with feet.

I LOVE that kid and he would give the Cards the most potent RB to line up out there since god knows when. Physical vs. physical. A one-two punch of AW and AE? Yes please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uT4-GIHGow

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

One of my buddies at my job is a Ohio St fan.. We had this debate all season.. Carey vs Hyde.. I have watched a lot of Hyde.. He isn't no Carey..

I agree.

He's better than Carey .

 

[PJ1]

Go ahead and shoot me, because maybe years of seeing Beanie trip did this to me, but removed from them odd fumbles...Mendy still accomplished not losing yards when blocking was not there and I would actually not mind bringing back the same stable of backs

I am with you on this. May happen as BA likes Mendy for sure.

 

[sundevil04]

We all know the road to the playoffs goes through Seattle and San Fran. They both have two things in common:

They have very physical offensive lines, and they both have a very physical running attack.

Our defense proved the last two weeks we can match that and shut down their run game BUT we don't run against them well enough.

Mendenhall was pedestrian this year. See ya, have a nice life. We need a physical, punishing runner that will keep defenses honest. Enter Andre Williams. The guy is a truck with feet.

I LOVE that kid and he would give the Cards the most potent RB to line up out there since god knows when. Physical vs. physical. A one-two punch of AW and AE? Yes please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uT4-GIHGow

There it is.

FA- B.Albert (LT)

1.) E.Ebron/J.Amaro/A.Sefarius-jenkins (TE) or J.Gilbert/D.Denard (CB)
2.) Z.Mettenberger - LSU(QB)
3.) A.Williams - Boston College (RB)
4.) C.Loston - LSU (SS)
5.) J.Huff - Oregon (WR)
6.) S.Heanderson - Miami (OT)

 

[Duckjake]

How about that kid Conner from Pittsburgh? Talk about a guy who runs like a truck. Plus he could double as a pass rusher.

 

[sundevil04]

How about that kid Conner from Pittsburgh? Talk about a guy who runs like a truck. Plus he could double as a pass rusher.

He's a Freshman, can't enter the draft

 

[Duckjake]

He's a Freshman, can't enter the draft

A Freshman? That means he's only 18-19 years old. Jeez they're growing them big these days.

 

[Brian]

There it is.

FA- B.Albert (LT)

1.) E.Ebron/J.Amaro/A.Sefarius-jenkins (TE) or J.Gilbert/D.Denard (CB)
2.) Z.Mettenberger - LSU(QB)
3.) A.Williams - Boston College (RB)
4.) C.Loston - LSU (SS)
5.) J.Huff - Oregon (WR)
6.) S.Heanderson - Miami (OT)

Love it except there is no way in hell Andre Williams lasts until the third round. He's a senior and leads the nation in rushing.

UA is about to find out on tuesday what this kid is about.

To get J. Amaro in the first and Mettenberger in the second would be awesome.

 

[sundevil04]

Love it except there is no way in hell Andre Williams lasts until the third round. He's a senior and leads the nation in rushing.

UA is about to find out on tuesday what this kid is about.

To get J. Amaro in the first and Mettenberger in the second would be awesome.

I'd take any of the top 6 backs in that spot. They all have Rd2 talent, one should fall to rd3.

 

[pacman]

Bishop Sankey is going to be a very good RB in the NFL. He's the best RB in this class IMO.

 

[sundevil04]

Bishop Sankey is going to be a very good RB in the NFL. He's the best RB in this class IMO.

agreed that he's going to be very good, but I think Ka'deem Carey will give him a run for his money as the best.

Would you still not spend a RD2/3 pick on either?

 

[pacman]

agreed that he's going to be very good, but I think Ka'deem Carey will give him a run for his money as the best.

Would you still not spend a RD2/3 pick on either?

Idk about a 2nd rounder but I'd definitely spend a 3rd rounder on either of those guys. I just don't know how much value there is in taking a HB in the second round when you can get a great one later.

 

[sundevil04]

Idk about a 2nd rounder but I'd definitely spend a 3rd rounder on either of those guys. I just don't know how much value there is in taking a HB in the second round when you can get a great one later.

You can get a great ANYTHING later in the draft...if you're lucky. EVERY winning team in the NFL has a leading rusher that was selected in RD's 1,2 or 3 other than the Saints.

Using that logic, you must have hated the Jonathan Cooper pick, taking a Guard in the top 10

 

[Gee!]

UA is about to find out on tuesday what this kid is about.

You have some hate in your heart for the Wildcats...

I bet we don't though...

 

[pacman]

You can get a great ANYTHING later in the draft...if you're lucky. EVERY winning team in the NFL has a leading rusher that was selected in RD's 1,2 or 3 other than the Saints.

Using that logic, you must have hated the Jonathan Cooper pick, taking a Guard in the top 10

No I loved the pick. He was the BPA and will solidify our OL for many years to come.

Look at all of the RBs drafted late that have had success in the NFL. That's all I'm arguing.