OT: Adrian Peterson indicted in Child Injury Case

[crisper57]

I got swats from my parents. Wooden spoon I think. But they never broke skin. That seems a bit too much.

 

[Darkside]

Or how advanced we have become.

I wish that were true but I have my doubts. It would possibly be true if there were freedom to express thoughts and feelings in replacement of physical displays but even that has been discouraged. You can't say a whole range of things without someone getting hurt about it--then the mob mentality takes over, which is apparently fine. But it doesn't make a more advanced society--it merely produces a bunch of fake asses in public.

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[Redneck Voodoo]

If you want to discipline a child then, at the most, spank his butt. I don't care how we were raised as kids, taking a switch to a four year-old and hitting him repeatedly on the thighs is abusive. That's not becoming "wussified". It's called social evolution. As far as that goes, it used to be OK to smack your wife around too. Now it's not. Why? Because we are "supposedly" getting smarter.
I don't know the whole story, but he says he did it. If he did, it's criminal. I don't care who you are. If someone did something like that to one of my kids or
my grandchildren, they would be facing more than a switch. A four year-old is defenseless.

 

[Reddog]

Those photos of those marks were taken after the child returned to Minnesota and after visiting the doctor. The photos were credited to the Houston Police Department but don't know if they were taken by the doctors in Minnesota or if the mother took the child back to Houston to file the report. A four year old should not be subject to that sort of abuse.

Also Peterson hasn't denied that he did it. The statement from his lawyer was that he was using his parental judgment to discipline his son.

If the pictures are legit and AP did this then this is abuse and way beyond parental rights by today's standards. Maybe AP was brought up that way but no judge is going to extend him any empathy for that. I wonder what the offense was? I can't imagine the consequence for worse infractions or if the kid was a teenager.

 

[Darkside]

If the pictures are legit and AP did this then this is abuse and way beyond parental rights by today's standards. Maybe AP was brought up that way but no judge is going to extend him any empathy for that. I wonder what the offense was? I can't imagine the consequence for worse infractions or if the kid was a teenager.

I really believe he's in a lot of trouble. He admitted doing it. And 4 years old is just so young. Right now the NFL is looking like a bunch of savages.

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[dreamcastrocks]

If the pictures are legit and AP did this then this is abuse and way beyond parental rights by today's standards. Maybe AP was brought up that way but no judge is going to extend him any empathy for that. I wonder what the offense was? I can't imagine the consequence for worse infractions or if the kid was a teenager.

Oh, there are some teenagery actions that could warrant that type of discipline for sure IMO.

I really believe he's in a lot of trouble. He admitted doing it. And 4 years old is just so young. Right now the NFL is looking like a bunch of savages.

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It will be REALLY interesting to see what the league does here. Peterson is one of the top 5 players in the league.

 

[crisper57]

When are people gonna learn that a sick filled with oranges doesn't leave a mark? Thanks Family Guy!

Seriously though, this went too far!!!

 

[clif]

God help this world. I would advocate not having kids in today's society. No I haven't looked at the pics but I got my ass beat enough to know right from wrong at an early age. I will just pray for all involved. Everyone else wants to tell people how to raise their kids, but no one wants the responsibility themselves. It's a thin line between discipline and abuse. I just think the line is very blurred.


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[D-Dogg]

I really believe he's in a lot of trouble. He admitted doing it. And 4 years old is just so young. Right now the NFL is looking like a bunch of savages.

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And these are superstars, not just joes and jims.

SMFH

 

[crisper57]

God help this world. I would advocate not having kids in today's society. No I haven't looked at the pics but I got my ass beat enough to know right from wrong at an early age. I will just pray for all involved. Everyone else wants to tell people how to raise their kids, but no one wants the responsibility themselves. It's a thin line between discipline and abuse. I just think the line is very blurred.


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Look at the pics. Line was crossed pretty clearly.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

God help this world. I would advocate not having kids in today's society. No I haven't looked at the pics but I got my ass beat enough to know right from wrong at an early age. I will just pray for all involved. Everyone else wants to tell people how to raise their kids, but no one wants the responsibility themselves. It's a thin line between discipline and abuse. I just think the line is very blurred.


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It is very blurry indeed. I often wonder about the discipline that I got at an very early age and how it affected me as an adult.

 

[Dback Jon]

God help this world. I would advocate not having kids in today's society. No I haven't looked at the pics but I got my ass beat enough to know right from wrong at an early age. I will just pray for all involved. Everyone else wants to tell people how to raise their kids, but no one wants the responsibility themselves. It's a thin line between discipline and abuse. I just think the line is very blurred.


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Look at the photos (taken a week after the attack) and then get back to us.


Main problem with today isn't lack of physical discipline (and non-physical discipline is proven to be far more effective than beatings) but lack of parents wanting to do the hard work of parenting.

 

[crisper57]

I don't know what the line is, I just know when I see examples of when it was crossed. This was pretty clear to me.

 

[CardLogic]

Of course it does. That is why I want more facts. The first grand jury didn't see enough to indict, but the second one did. What changed? More evidence? Different prosecutor? Stupid grand jury?

What changed? The whole Ray Rice thing occured, that's what.

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

Look at the photos (taken a week after the attack) and then get back to us.


Main problem with today isn't lack of physical discipline (and non-physical discipline is proven to be far more effective than beatings) but lack of parents wanting to do the hard work of parenting.

Nail? Meet hammer. Absolutely.

 

[splitsecond]

This is going to sound terrible, but some kids are like dogs, and dogs of the most stubborn breed. Normal punishment and spankings don't affect them because the acts that are trouble are worth more to them than the pain of the punishment. My buddy has half ******** husky that can run through the pain of a shock collar if he really wants to do something.

Now, I do think anything that breaks skin is over the line. But my guess is this was an act of frustration in part. You have a kid from a broken home who probably has the pain tolerance and stubbornness of his pops.

That being said it IS illegal and it is for a reason. I still believe you have to let the legal system take it's course (Ray Rice already had completed his legal proceedings when he was suspended) and see where it goes. Obviously the Vikes deactivated him because he has an active warrant.

By the way: he's supposedly been cooperating. The Judge issuing a warrant on a Friday when he can't appear and get his release conditions set is an intentional ******** move. Total power trip and publicity stunt. I don't know what the law is in Texas, but in Arizona an indicted defendant is first served by certified mail and notified of a scheduled arraignment date. Maybe this is standard procedure because he is out of state but it really looks like grandstanding to me.

 

[Shane]

Look at the photos (taken a week after the attack) and then get back to us.


Main problem with today isn't lack of physical discipline (and non-physical discipline is proven to be far more effective than beatings) but lack of parents wanting to do the hard work of parenting.

Physical discipline is a viable and necessary form of punishment that should be an option for parents.... It's downright silly that many jurisdictions have passed laws that allow for no physical discipline of their kids.... I'm fact it's shameful.

It shouldn't be used in every instance and you hope your kids if raised right will never require it to be used. But at times it is and should be without any hesitation. Of course without going overboard!

 

[Dr. Jones]

From DD

DARNELL DOCKETT @ddockett
I got a ass whippn at 5 with a switch that's lasted about 40mins and couldn't sit for 2days. It's was all love though. Times have changed!

 

[vince56]

What is a switch?

 

[Shane]

What is a switch?

Like a stick or a branch

 

[Azlen]

I was spanked as a child and have no real issue with corporal punishment in general. You would see no evidence of a spanking a day later let alone a week later. The situation with AP goes far beyond a normal spanking. It was excessive and clearly over the line. We're also talking about a four year old. Much too young for what was done to him.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Physical discipline is a viable and necessary form of punishment that should be an option for parents.... It's downright silly that many jurisdictions have passed laws that allow for no physical discipline of their kids.... I'm fact it's shameful.

It shouldn't be used in every instance and you hope your kids if raised right will never require it to be used. But at times it is and should be without any hesitation. Of course without going overboard!

That's the issue... All of us have our own stories as to how we were raised. Hell, my mom broke many a wooden spoon on the heads of my brothers and me. She sometimes would even use a vacuum hose if that was in reach... But NOT when we were 4 years old...
The facts will eventually leak out in this case. But just from the pics that have surfaced, it does seem that AP may have reached the point of going overboard.

 

[Snakester]

I'm all for giving a child a spanking if they deserve it but you can't beat a four year old like that. That's too young for that kind of beating. I remember getting beat with a switch back in the day along with other things but never that young. I can see a swat on the butt to get their attention but that is about it at that age. If Peterson did all of that then he will most likely be convicted. It's not like the old days when parents had the right to beat their kids as they seen fit. Nowadays only cops are allowed to beat people like that.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

IMO: He needs to be suspended for the whole season if pics are accurate of what Peterson did. NFL needs to send a message to all parents as to what is accepted and expected in our culture. They missed the boat on the Ray Rice deal regarding women and their mates. Hope they don't repeat the mistake regarding children.

 

[ozzfloyd]

Also had injuries to his scrotum. AP even states that 'oh, I got him in the nuts, oops'