OT: Bengals' WR in "very serious" condition after accident

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I feel sorry for the kids.

For him, not so much. And his "turn his life around" - not so much - he died attacking fiancee, who was fleeing for her life.
 

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I feel sorry for the kids.

For him, not so much. And his "turn his life around" - not so much - he died attacking fiancee, who was fleeing for her life.

It is bad karma to speak ill of the dead. Regardless of his actions, the man did not deserve to die.
 

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It is bad karma to speak ill of the dead. Regardless of his actions, the man did not deserve to die.

Not so much. Lets be honest out of all thew NFL players if I had to choose one that would likely die at a young age? Yup Henry would have been at the top of my list. Or at least in the top 10.

Dude is far from a model citizen and I dont buy the whole "getting his life turned around" for much the same reason as Jon.

Its still sad and I don't think that he deserved to die. But at the same token its not somebody I'm putting on my prayer list either. I know this post will piss some people off. But quite frankly I dont care.
 

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Not so much. Lets be honest out of all thew NFL players if I had to choose one that would likely die at a young age? Yup Henry would have been at the top of my list. Or at least in the top 10.

Dude is far from a model citizen and I dont buy the whole "getting his life turned around" for much the same reason as Jon.

Its still sad and I don't think that he deserved to die. But at the same token its not somebody I'm putting on my prayer list either. I know this post will piss some people off. But quite frankly I dont care.

Exactly. Reading through this thread, I was wondering if anyone was gonna be honest and speak the truth.

I feel bad for the kids because they lost someone whom I'm sure they loved very much, but they just also lost a negative role model. If he hadn't been born with such great physical gifts the man would have been hurting others or in jail rotting away a long time ago.
 

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We don't know which party was guilty during that domestic incident. Something is really disturbing me and can't find answer yet in reports. Did his fiancee realize he fell off the car? did she call the police or she just moved on ?

He is a humanbeing afterall. RIP
 

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Exactly. Reading through this thread, I was wondering if anyone was gonna be honest and speak the truth.

I feel bad for the kids because they lost someone whom I'm sure they loved very much, but they just also lost a negative role model. If he hadn't been born with such great physical gifts the man would have been hurting others or in jail rotting away a long time ago.

Yup. The kids are on my prayer list. But not dear old dad.
 

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Not so much. Lets be honest out of all thew NFL players if I had to choose one that would likely die at a young age? Yup Henry would have been at the top of my list. Or at least in the top 10.

Dude is far from a model citizen and I dont buy the whole "getting his life turned around" for much the same reason as Jon.

Its still sad and I don't think that he deserved to die. But at the same token its not somebody I'm putting on my prayer list either. I know this post will piss some people off. But quite frankly I dont care.

I never said he was a model citizen, I just don't believe in bashing people after death. You don't hear people in eulogies focusing on the negative aspects of one's life, but rather remembering the good s/he did.

I've had many close family members die with unresolved issues. It upsets me that they did not have the opportunity to redeem themselves, but it upsets me more when people focus on the negatives in their life as opposed to the good things they have done for their family or others.

Listen, we all have our demons and none of us are perfect. Obviously we can't control what is said about us after we pass on. I would hope that people remember me for the love and support I gave to all of my family and friends and the accomplishments I have achieved in life. I would also hope that people not focus on my transgressions. And I'm sure that most if not all of you would agree with that.

The term is called "Rest in Peace" for a reason.
 

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I never said he was a model citizen, I just don't believe in bashing people after death. You don't hear people in eulogies focusing on the negative aspects of one's life, but rather remembering the good s/he did.

I've had many close family members die with unresolved issues. It upsets me that they did not have the opportunity to redeem themselves, but it upsets me more when people focus on the negatives in their life as opposed to the good things they have done for their family or others.

Listen, we all have our demons and none of us are perfect. Obviously we can't control what is said about us after we pass on. I would hope that people remember me for the love and support I gave to all of my family and friends and the accomplishments I have achieved in life. I would also hope that people not focus on my transgressions. And I'm sure that most if not all of you would agree with that.

The term is called "Rest in Peace" for a reason.

I dont think Shane was trying to condemn the guy at all. he was just saying that you cant consider this a surprise. It was par for the course this man has been playing. Odds are, he and his fiance had very poor upbringings and that determined who they were. It's sad, but often true.

Also, this wasn't a eulogy, though I have been to a few funerals, where the speakers didn't go out of their way to be ignorant of the truth and skip around how and why the person had passed on.

Many times, the way you live determines how long you live. This is a good example.
 
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WOW...so many heartless a**holes. Man, where there is no compassion there is no heart. If all you can do is say negative things about a man that you didn't know...keep it to yourself. A man has died. I didn't know Chris Henry. Never met him and never talked to him. His public persona was bad but he was still a young man. I had hopes for him during the last couple of years and he seemed to be quietly turning it around. He seemed genuinely soft spoken and understood his situation and wanted to change.

As far as a role model. I teach my son compassion and to care about others. My son will never know what it is like to grow up disadvantaged in a society that treats you like a third class citizen unless you excel at sports. Don't think you know for a minute what that man has been through. Get your head out of your a** and have compassion. I'm done. A couple of you have really pi**ed me off.
 

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We live and die by the choices we make. This incident was just another in a long line of bad decisions by Henry. In all likelihood, if he hadn't been injured he probably would have been arrested for the 6th time and released a second time by the Bengals.

He was given chance after chance to get it together, but it appears he never could. Too bad, but I'll save my sympathy for orphans, victims of war and violence etc. who have no control over the pain inflicted upon them.
 

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I dont think Shane was trying to condemn the guy at all. he was just saying that you cant consider this a surprise. It was par for the course this man has been playing. Odds are, he and his fiance had very poor upbringings and that determined who they were. It's sad, but often true.

Also, this wasn't a eulogy, though I have been to a few funerals, where the speakers didn't go out of their way to be ignorant of the truth and skip around how and why the person had passed on.

Many times, the way you live determines how long you live. This is a good example.

I just want to point something out. You have an avatar of Arturo Gatti, who died in July and his widow was accused of murdering him. He was also accused of assaulting her. But clearly you are remembering the man who was a tremendous athlete, not the mistakes he made in life.

Not a model citizen yet you choose to mourn his loss by holding his picture in your profile. How is Chris Henry any different?

Kind of hypocritical, don't you think?
 

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WOW...so many heartless a**holes. Man, where there is no compassion there is no heart. If all you can do is say negative things about a man that you didn't know...keep it to yourself. A man has died. I didn't know Chris Henry. Never met him and never talked to him. His public persona was bad but he was still a young man. I had hopes for him during the last couple of years and he seemed to be quietly turning it around. He seemed genuinely soft spoken and understood his situation and wanted to change.

As far as a role model. I teach my son compassion and to care about others. My son will never know what it is like to grow up disadvantaged in a society that treats you like a third class citizen unless you excel at sports. Don't think you know for a minute what that man has been through. Get your head out of your a** and have compassion. I'm done. A couple of you have really pi**ed me off.

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Soap box much?

I have compassion where compassion is deserved. The way and in the manner this kid passed on doesn't warrant any IMO. He didn't deserve his fate. But at the same time I certainly don't feel sorry for him either. Just his children. They are the ones that suffer thanks to him.
 

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Soap box much?

I have compassion where compassion is deserved. The way and in the manner this kid passed on doesn't warrant any IMO. He didn't deserve his fate. But at the same time I certainly don't feel sorry for him either. Just his children. They are the ones that suffer thanks to him.

Shane, at minimum show the guy some common decency and respect... Sure, you might not feel he is worthy of it. But c'mon man. He was a troubled kid who couldn't step away from the demons that haunted him. He's now dead. You don't need to feel any compassion or love for the kid, but geeez... a little respect for a life that is now lost is all...
 

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Shane, at minimum show the guy some common decency and respect... Sure, you might not feel he is worthy of it. But c'mon man. He was a troubled kid who couldn't step away from the demons that haunted him. He's now dead. You don't need to feel any compassion or love for the kid, but geeez... a little respect for a life that is now lost is all...

No. Considering the manner that he died I don't need to "respect" him either.
 

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WOW...so many heartless a**holes. Man, where there is no compassion there is no heart. If all you can do is say negative things about a man that you didn't know...keep it to yourself. A man has died. I didn't know Chris Henry. Never met him and never talked to him. His public persona was bad but he was still a young man. I had hopes for him during the last couple of years and he seemed to be quietly turning it around. He seemed genuinely soft spoken and understood his situation and wanted to change.
Maybe he was trying to change his life and maybe he did have a good heart. Sadly however, people are judge by their past, not their future. His past was not positive in the least.
As far as a role model. I teach my son compassion and to care about others. My son will never know what it is like to grow up disadvantaged in a society that treats you like a third class citizen unless you excel at sports.
Please explain to me how society treated him as a 3rd class citizen. Just because he was raised to act like one doesn't mean that the blame should be placed on society. Americans are born with more rights and privileges than any other people in the world. To hear people say stuff like what you just spewed is laughable in my opinion---and yes, I grew up in a sh-tty area. It took me 20 years to figure it out, but where you were born and how you grow up does not have to dictate what you become.

Don't think you know for a minute what that man has been through. Get your head out of your a** and have compassion. I'm done. A couple of you have really pi**ed me off.

This coming form the guy who is well-known on this board to back whatever spoiled millionaire is currently in trouble for acting like an idiot???

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I grew up in an area that I guarantee was no better than what he came out of and have had more than my share of problems and faults, so dont tell me what I know or have seen. Instead of attacking people for voicing their opinions (on a message board made specifically for that) hows about you get off my d--- and grow a brain.
 

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Soap box much?

I have compassion where compassion is deserved. The way and in the manner this kid passed on doesn't warrant any IMO. He didn't deserve his fate. But at the same time I certainly don't feel sorry for him either. Just his children. They are the ones that suffer thanks to him.

Shane...I have always liked you and your posts but he doesn't deserve compassion and he didn't deserve his fate. This is very illogical. doesn't make sense to me. If you want me to break down your statement logically I will but just know that it is fallacious. The truth is...you don't really feel sorry for his children and in a day or two you will probably never think about them again. So, why don't you just let the people that want to feel compassion and some sadness for this situation do so. The fact that you don't is fine...but it is very ignorant of you to talk as though you knew him or the TRUTH of his life. You don't, I don't and most people don't. The fact is this story happens every day but today it has happened in the NFL and that is why I care. RIP Chris Henry.
 

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Shane-----as usual, you can be counted on to find something negative to say about the situation under discussion. This time however, you have stooped to a new low in my estimation. Your remarks in this instance are crass, vulgar, and uncalled for.

The single fact is that a life, (the most precious thing on this earth), was ended tragically. In the wake of that tragedy, others will follow, because there are children involved. That is truly sad, but not so sad as your obvious and blatant disregard for human suffering, nor for your total lack of class as a human being.
 

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I just want to point something out. You have an avatar of Arturo Gatti, who died in July and his widow was accused of murdering him. He was also accused of assaulting her. But clearly you are remembering the man who was a tremendous athlete, not the mistakes he made in life.

Not a model citizen yet you choose to mourn his loss by holding his picture in your profile. How is Chris Henry any different?

Kind of hypocritical, don't you think?

I am remembering him as a hell of a fighter. Just as I will remember Chris Henry as a hell of a football player. Both lived lives that put that at risk for death. Where is the hypocrisy in that?
 

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Please explain to me how society treated him as a 3rd class citizen. Just because he was raised to act like one doesn't mean that the blame should be placed on society. Americans are born with more rights and privileges than any other people in the world. To hear people say stuff like what you just spewed is laughable in my opinion---and yes, I grew up in a sh-tty area. It took me 20 years to figure it out, but where you were born and how you grow up does not have to dictate what you become.
Exactly, and had you died when you were a punk I would not have talked ill about you. I would have had compassion for your situation. I won't talk about the third class citizen thing. I know what I mean and I won't try to explain that one if you don't understand it.
 

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Shane...I have always liked you and your posts but he doesn't deserve compassion and he didn't deserve his fate. This is very illogical. doesn't make sense to me. If you want me to break down your statement logically I will but just know that it is fallacious. The truth is...you don't really feel sorry for his children and in a day or two you will probably never think about them again. So, why don't you just let the people that want to feel compassion and some sadness for this situation do so. The fact that you don't is fine...but it is very ignorant of you to talk as though you knew him or the TRUTH of his life. You don't, I don't and most people don't. The fact is this story happens every day but today it has happened in the NFL and that is why I care. RIP Chris Henry.

So you only care because he was an NFL player? That makes you a joke IMO.

I absolutely have compassion for his children. That is all I have compassion for and I feel for them. But reference your comment "I may not ever think about the whole situation 3 days from now" or soemthing to that effect? YOUR RIGHT! Why would I think about it three days from now? Really why?

And yes I can also feel that he didn't necessarily deserve to die. But not have compassion because he did. Whether you think that is logical or not is irrelevant.
 

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If you want me to break down your statement logically I will but just know that it is fallacious. The truth is...you don't really feel sorry for his children and in a day or two you will probably never think about them again. So, why don't you just let the people that want to feel compassion and some sadness for this situation do so.
How do you know any of this????? I would say that since he sacrifices his safety everyday to protect people and their children then it's very likely he does have a modicum of compassion for others AND their kids :shrug:

The fact that you don't is fine...but it is very ignorant of you to talk as though you knew him or the TRUTH of his life. You don't, I don't and most people don't.
Him being a cop makes him a much more credible source on the subject than say... you.
 

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Shane-----as usual, you can be counted on to find something negative to say about the situation under discussion. This time however, you have stooped to a new low in my estimation. Your remarks in this instance are crass, vulgar, and uncalled for.

The single fact is that a life, (the most precious thing on this earth), was ended tragically. In the wake of that tragedy, others will follow, because there are children involved. That is truly sad, but not so sad as your obvious and blatant disregard for human suffering, nor for your total lack of class as a human being.

You must have forgot to read this portion of my first post:

I know this post will piss some people off. But quite frankly I dont care.


Also I'm far from the only person that feels this way. Even Colin Cowherd said essentially the same thing this morning on his radio show. As are other posters on this board.
 
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