OT: Bengals' WR in "very serious" condition after accident

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Exactly, and had you died when you were a punk I would not have talked ill about you. I would have had compassion for your situation. I won't talk about the third class citizen thing. I know what I mean and I won't try to explain that one if you don't understand it.
You just proved my point. Had I died when I was a punk it would have been because I was a punk. I think we are in agreement on more than you realize here. You just think I should be quieter on the truth here. I guess I can respect that. As far as the lack of understanding----:biglaugh:
 

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So you only care because he was an NFL player? That makes you a joke IMO.

I absolutely have compassion for his children. That is all I have compassion for and I feel for them. But reference your comment "I may not ever think about the whole situation 3 days from now" or soemthing to that effect? YOUR RIGHT! Why would I think about it three days from now? Really why?

And yes I can also feel that he didn't necessarily deserve to die. But not have compassion because he did. Whether you think that is logical or not is irrelevant.

No...it is in my face because I am an avid NFL fan who loves the game. Henry is a story that I have followed from his rookie year. I had hoped that he would get it together and after watching Hard Knocks and seeing a few interviews it appeared that he was going in a direction that was beneficial to himself and his kids. This situation is unfortunate and (to me) sad. I am now done. I am a grown man and I am not going to stoop to the petty BS that I am hearing.
 

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You just proved my point. Had I died when I was a punk it would have been because I was a punk. I think we are in agreement on more than you realize here. You just think I should be quieter on the truth here. I guess I can respect that. As far as the lack of understanding----:biglaugh:

The truth is that I think Henry had turned things around. We will see what truly happened and him jumping in the back of a truck is not necessarily a crime or indicative of him doing something illegal. I agree he made alot of choices that had a negative impact on his life. Man, I don't know you and I don't know why I am engaging in this. Take care of yourself and I hope you have a great life.
 

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Situations like this one are difficult for me since you have someone with a checkered past and can only assume what transpired to lead up to his death. In his case, most are saying it was his own fault before all the facts are released, but in the case of Steve McNair is was the opposite because he had a good past. I will reserve judgment until all the facts are released and until then, I hope his children are in good hands.


By the say, Sean Taylor was the villain in most eyes because of his past when his death was reported and he ended up being 100% the victim in that case.
 

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Once again, we're sadly reminded of the fragileness...

of the life we're given. His life is OVER! We're STILL here! I strongly encourage you, my friends (and though we've never met I think of you that way), to TREASURE your Life and the people in it! GOOD! BAD!! ALL of it!! I "blinked" my eyes and 25 became 52! (LORD willing, 53 this Summer) Sometimes I find myself whining & complaining in spite of ALL my Blessings!! ...And then part of me says....STOP!! You DON'T have time for this!
 

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of the life we're given. His life is OVER! We're STILL here! I strongly encourage you, my friends (and though we've never met I think of you that way), to TREASURE your Life and the people in it! GOOD! BAD!! ALL of it!! I "blinked" my eyes and 25 became 52! (LORD willing, 53 this Summer) Sometimes I find myself whining & complaining in spite of ALL my Blessings!! ...And then part of me says....STOP!! You DON'T have time for this!

Now that we can all agree on :thumbup:
 

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It's sad no matter what his life situation was, IMO. If he had turned his life around, then good for him. Hopefully he made peace with himself before he went. If he hadn't, then it's sad because he won't have the chance to do so.

Everyone has people who love them, even "punks." You might not shed a tear at his passing, but someone is in a lot of pain over it right now.
 

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Based on the fact that none of you know what really happend in this situation your remarks in regards to him hitting his wife, chasing her down when she was running for her life and so forth carry no water. Until you see a report on what happend your thoughts are just that thoughts. Your hatred for human kind is what is wrong with this world today. How do you know he wasnt turning his life around? Do you hang out on a regular basis, are you guys "boys"? Didnt think so, you know about as much about this dudes home life as you know about mine and that isnt ****.
 

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Based on the fact that none of you know what really happend in this situation your remarks in regards to him hitting his wife, chasing her down when she was running for her life and so forth carry no water. Until you see a report on what happend your thoughts are just that thoughts. Your hatred for human kind is what is wrong with this world today. How do you know he wasnt turning his life around? Do you hang out on a regular basis, are you guys "boys"? Didnt think so, you know about as much about this dudes home life as you know about mine and that isnt ****.

Sorry, dad.

BTW, did anyone else hear the audio of the 911 call from a witness? A woman was driving behind the truck and she called police to report that a shirtless man with a cast on his arm was in the back of the pickup beating on the back window, trying to get in.

What do you say to that, turkey?
 

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What a Piece of ****.. I know people post things like this for shock vaule, but my gosh get over yourself, CBS should have deleted this by now, what a joke...

Shane, we come from similar walks, I know where you are coming from, Chris Henry had his troubles, and died in a tragic, albeit "stupid" way..

What REALLY pisses me off are those people who are intimating that his Fiance was running for her life and he had beaten her and was tryign tohurt her in the process of this... We don't have any of the facts (Homicide Investigators have been assigned to the case)..

Whether people feel sorry for him or not, let it be... I feel for him, I feel for his CHILDREN, I feel for his family, I feel for the Bengals... I do believe he was trying to turn the corner, May GOD bless him, and his family... He is my brother, and I keep him and his family in my thoughts and prayers during this time....
 

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Based on the fact that none of you know what really happend in this situation your remarks in regards to him hitting his wife, chasing her down when she was running for her life and so forth carry no water. Until you see a report on what happend your thoughts are just that thoughts. Your hatred for human kind is what is wrong with this world today. How do you know he wasnt turning his life around? Do you hang out on a regular basis, are you guys "boys"? Didnt think so, you know about as much about this dudes home life as you know about mine and that isnt ****.

Tyler we met and your a good dude. But come on bro get real. The woman was trying to leave the scene and get away from the situation. He chased after her and jumped into the truck. Then according to a witness he was beating on the back window trying to get in as she fled. She obviously felt in enough fear that she wasn't concerned about slowing down with him back there.

I'm sure his fiance thinks he is a real soft spoken young man as the people in the Bengals organization claim as one of the reasons reason he is a good person.
 
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A woman was driving behind the truck and she called police to report that a shirtless man with a cast on his arm was in the back of the pickup beating on the back window, trying to get in.

What do you say to that, turkey?
I'd say he was right to try and get in; he wouldn't be dead if he had.

I'm not saying it doesn't look like he was perpetrating some sort of domestic disturbance/violence, but without knowing the all of the facts he could have been trying to get in the truck so that his wife/GF didn't throw him from the truck and kill him.

Regardless, the man is dead. His family and loved ones are without him today. That alone makes me not care too much at this moment about his character. That's secondary to the tragedy--and make no mistake: that's what it is...not because he was a football player and not because he was some kind of saint (clearly he wasn't), but he was a person who isn't there to love or be loved by those close to him.

I don't know why everyone is so quick to judge the man's life (as if it were their's to judge one way or another) in the wake of his death.
 

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What a Piece of ****.. I know people post things like this for shock vaule, but my gosh get over yourself, CBS should have deleted this by now, what a joke...

Shane, we come from similar walks, I know where you are coming from, Chris Henry had his troubles, and died in a tragic, albeit "stupid" way..

What REALLY pisses me off are those people who are intimating that his Fiance was running for her life and he had beaten her and was tryign tohurt her in the process of this... We don't have any of the facts (Homicide Investigators have been assigned to the case)..

Whether people feel sorry for him or not, let it be... I feel for him, I feel for his CHILDREN, I feel for his family, I feel for the Bengals... I do believe he was trying to turn the corner, May GOD bless him, and his family... He is my brother, and I keep him and his family in my thoughts and prayers during this time....

I can see your point. But just not sure I buy the whole turning your life around bit. I certainly don't by the soft spoken good kid bit the organization portrays him to be. To much history.

Like I said its sad for family and especially the children. Don't wish them to go through this at all.
 

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Tyler we met and your a good dude. But come on bro get real. The woman was trying to leave the scene and get away from the situation. He chased after her and jumped into the truck. Then according to a witness he was beating on the back window trying to get in as she fled. He's a real super dude and was on the right track let me tell ya based on that I can just tell.

I'm sure his fiance thinks he is a real soft spoken young man as the people in the Bengals organization claim as one of the reasons reason he is a good person. ;)

I am not in law enforcement, but we have only heard bits and pieces about the situation

I am not willing to say that he was not at fault at all.. please don't misunderstand, he was invovled, but I am also not willing at the moment to connect the facts myself and assume the details that I don't know...

If he TRULEY was in a rage and physically assaulted his Fiance to the point she feared for her life and left, only to have him continue, it is a different story, but I don't know what started the event, if there was physical or emotional abuse, and what happend that caused him to fall..

There is a lot of reasons he would be beating on the back window, if I was int that situation, I may be banging on the window in hopes on getting her to slow down or stop so I can get out... Again I am not saying this is the reason, but I will give him the benifit of the doubt regardless of whether he deserves it or not....

Just sayin....
 

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I'd say he was right to try and get in; he wouldn't be dead if he had.

Or maybe his fiancee would be dead, or she'd have crashed and killed them both or somebody else.

He wasn't "right" to try and break a window of a moving vehicle. Come on.

He should have sat down and waited for the vehicle to stop, or maybe he should have let her go and not jumped into the truck at all. Then he would definitely still be alive.
 

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Sorry, dad.

BTW, did anyone else hear the audio of the 911 call from a witness? A woman was driving behind the truck and she called police to report that a shirtless man with a cast on his arm was in the back of the pickup beating on the back window, trying to get in.

What do you say to that, turkey?



I say link?????
 

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I am not in law enforcement, but we have only heard bits and pieces about the situation

I am not willing to say that he was not at fault at all.. please don't misunderstand, he was invovled, but I am also not willing at the moment to connect the facts myself and assume the details that I don't know...

If he TRULEY was in a rage and physically assaulted his Fiance to the point she feared for her life and left, only to have him continue, it is a different story, but I don't know what started the event, if there was physical or emotional abuse, and what happend that caused him to fall..

There is a lot of reasons he would be beating on the back window, if I was int that situation, I may be banging on the window in hopes on getting her to slow down or stop so I can get out... Again I am not saying this is the reason, but I will give him the benifit of the doubt regardless of whether he deserves it or not....

Just sayin....

I dont really see a lot of reason to be beating on the back of window in a pick up truck thats fleeing? Can you name a few :)

Listen its obvious the woman was trying to get away that much is clear as day. She was also in enough fear that she wasn't concerned at all at the time for the safety of Henry in the back. She continued to drive and not let him in obviously.

The sad thing is we may never truly know. A very high % of people involved with domestics especially females will lie about what occurred and continue to support their men even though they are being beat or abused etc... It really is quite sad.
 

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Or maybe his fiancee would be dead, or she'd have crashed and killed them both or somebody else.

He wasn't "right" to try and break a window of a moving vehicle. Come on.

He should have sat down and waited for the vehicle to stop, or maybe he should have let her go and not jumped into the truck at all. Then he would definitely still be alive.
I'm not saying he didn't have malicious intent. All I'm saying is we don't know.

Regardless, the penalty for domestic abuse isn't death. That's not justice.
 

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I say link?????

That is true Tuke... There was a 911 call and the lady was saying that a man was beating on the window...

but again, if I was in that situation I may be doing that too, depending on how she was driving...

regardless, the Charlotte police have put Homicide Investigators on the case, so we should know details about the ordeal shortly..

Outside of that, today is a sad day for a LOT of people. namly 3 little children who will never see their dad again...
 
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