OT: Is Derek Anderson worth 2 first round picks?

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He's an RFA next season and mult-millionaire Brady Quinn is sitting on the bench. The Brown's owners graduated from the Bidwill School of Management, so they will be pushing to play Brady next year.

Do you think anybody would willing oto give up two 1st?
 

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He's an RFA next season and mult-millionaire Brady Quinn is sitting on the bench. The Brown's owners graduated from the Bidwill School of Management, so they will be pushing to play Brady next year.

Do you think anybody would willing oto give up two 1st?

If he keeps playing at the level he is right now he is easily worth at least 1 first rounder. But if he keeps this up the browns would be crazy to let him go and would be better off trading Quinn if the salary would allow it. Which it probably wouldnt.
 

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No way in hell Derek Anderson is worth 2 first round picks. In all honesty there are not many players in the NFL that are worth that. Injuries are too prevelant and the difference in systems is too great for an organization to mortgage it's future like that...even if their future is as dismal as ours. Even 1 first rounder would be paying too much in my eyes. Derek Anderson is having 1 good year. You don't sell a top 15 player in the draft on Anderson's limited success. I could see him going for a second rounder ala Chris Chambers...but then again Randy Moss went for a 4th. This shows you the kind of geniuses there are running NFL front offices. More lawyers than scouts in my opinion.
 

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definitely, he's playing like a top QB

edited--i thought it said 2 second rounders--i'd do that in a heartbeat; 2 first-rounders is a bit steep
 
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One first-round (middle) pick? You could talk me into it.

two of them? Hell no.
 

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I think the real question is who do the Browns coaches and players want to be their QBOF? If they let go of Anderson because it's easier to do contractually, and the players prefer Anderson to Quinn, they're going to regret it.

One of the advantages of Quinn sliding so much is his contract is probably a little easier to trade than typically would be the case for a top pick at QB.
 

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I wont cost 2 1st rounders. He will cost a 1st and a 3rd. The highest RFA tender allowed.

Browns have 2 choices.

1. Do like the Chargers and wait one more year to see if Anderson is the real deal(4-5 games maybe 12 total does not make a good QB) and give him the high tender, see if Quinn progresses, and all waiting to make a decision in 2009 instead. The smart choice IMO. Forget the draft pick compensation, making sure you made the correct decision on your franchise QB is way more important.

2. Trade him for just a 1st rounder becuase I doubt they get a 1st and 3rd, heck I even dont think they could get a 1st but thats another discussion. Then hope that Quinn is ready.

3. There is no option of trading Quinn becuase of cap purposes.
 

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The Browns would be crazy to get rid of either of them. How many QB's have gone down to injury this year? How valuable is it to (potentially) have 2 quality QB's on the roster?

While Anderson is playing lights out right now, there's no guarentee that Quinn will be able to do the same. Add to that, any team interested in Anderson has to remember that he didn't start looking so good until all the pieces started to fall into place in Cleveland. If a team doesn't have those pieces in place then why are they going after a QB?
 

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LMAO.

Typical what have you done for me lately reaction.

Expect Derek Anderson to wake up from this dream say.....around Week 13.....

What is very real on that team is that Oline (even without Lecharles Bentley) and those weapons.
 

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The "new" Browns are a historically lousy team with lousy ownership and a lousy front office who stuck with Romeo Crennel when it was immediately clear in Romeo's first year that he was a loser head coach. Why would those fools do that?

I say inertia. It's obvious.
 
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A first and a third

Thanks for the correction Joeshmo.

If DA deals with the Steelers this weekend like he dealt with the Ravens, he's (IMO) going to receive an offer that the Browns won't match. A first and a third is acceptable for a proven 6'6" leader and possible pro-bowl player.

DA is lightyears ahead of the Dolphins or Vikes QBs. He's better than the QBs on Jets, Ravens, Bears, and Falcons. He has more future than the QBs at TB and Detroit.

Bear with me and assume somebody will give DA an offer. What team(s) might make an offer?
 

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I think it's going to be a good off-season for teams that need a QB. The draft should have a few good ones and I also think McNabb is going to be looking for a new house somewhere other than Philly this summer, too.
 

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Just trying to think of teams who will be in the market for a new QB in the offseason..

Chicago
Seattle?
SF?
Atlanta
Minnesota
Baltimore?
Jacksonville?
 

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I wont cost 2 1st rounders. He will cost a 1st and a 3rd. The highest RFA tender allowed.

Browns have 2 choices.

1. Do like the Chargers and wait one more year to see if Anderson is the real deal(4-5 games maybe 12 total does not make a good QB) and give him the high tender, see if Quinn progresses, and all waiting to make a decision in 2009 instead. The smart choice IMO. Forget the draft pick compensation, making sure you made the correct decision on your franchise QB is way more important.

2. Trade him for just a 1st rounder becuase I doubt they get a 1st and 3rd, heck I even dont think they could get a 1st but thats another discussion. Then hope that Quinn is ready.

3. There is no option of trading Quinn becuase of cap purposes.
Oh, what do you know about the cap anyway?

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sorry...couldn't resist a little levity
 

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joeschmo, do you know the details of Quinn's contract? I was under the impression the Browns built themselves several outs into the deal, making Quinn tradeable after year three without much damage to the CAP.

I think a good chunk of Quinn's early wages are subject to playing time, starts made and things like that. Then, parts of the deal void after year three if untriggered. Does this make sense?

Wasn't there something like this in Wadsworth's deal that allowed us to opt out early?

Isn't that why Leinart's deal hurt our cap this year when Green played him right away, kicking in huge bonuses that never would have been earned if Matt had sat and learned, as planned?

Not sure of any of this. Do you know more?

By the way, I stand by my earlier premonition that, barring injury or sudden bad play by Anderson, Quinn will not play for Cleveland. And I like Quinn a lot more than most of you.

You just can't bench a young player playing as well as Anderson is, to gamble on an unproven player in Quinn. Only the San Diego GM does something like that.
 

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You just can't bench a young player playing as well as Anderson is, to gamble on an unproven player in Quinn. Only the San Diego GM does something like that.

aren't they 18-6 since then, while being younger, having won just as many games in the playoffs as they did with Brees (as in zero)?
 
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If DA finishes the 2007 season in the manner he is playing now, he probably won't be a Brown next year. Somebody will offer DA, now a certified NFL QB vs a yet-to-be-drafted-possible-Ryan-Leaf clone, a contract that the Browns happily won't match. The Browns remember the 2007 preseason and know Quinn is do-able, if not a natural.

Good chance that the Browns, who are without a first round pick now, will end up with a top five pick. The possibility of a thunder and lighting tandem of Lewis and McFadden may be in the future.
 

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If DA finishes the 2007 season in the manner he is playing now, he probably won't be a Brown next year. Somebody will offer DA, now a certified NFL QB vs a yet-to-be-drafted-possible-Ryan-Leaf clone, a contract that the Browns happily won't match. The Browns remember the 2007 preseason and know Quinn is do-able, if not a natural.

Good chance that the Browns, who are without a first round pick now, will end up with a top five pick. The possibility of a thunder and lighting tandem of Lewis and McFadden may be in the future.

How are they going to get a top 5 pick? No one in their right mind would give a top 5 pick for Derek Anderson.
 

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How are they going to get a top 5 pick? No one in their right mind would give a top 5 pick for Derek Anderson.

My thoughts as well. There isnt a team in the league that is going to give the Browns a 1st and 3rd round pick for DA, even more so for any team that is in the top 10 that can pick and choice and groom a QB of their own.

Top 10 picks just are not traded in this day and age. Costs way to much to get that pick and costs way to much for that player selected.
 

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