If you have a floor it has to be balanced with a ceiling.
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MigratingOsprey
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For balance. I prefer the NFL structure - hard caps and floors
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Balance for whom?
How is balance provided?
What is the benefit?
Honestly not trying to be obtuse, just really don't understand.
If it's competitive balance, MLB is already at par with the other leagues - how does a cap and a floor change that?
What would be the intended impact?
How is balance provided?
What is the benefit?
Honestly not trying to be obtuse, just really don't understand.
If it's competitive balance, MLB is already at par with the other leagues - how does a cap and a floor change that?
What would be the intended impact?
You are missing the part of the conversation about the fact that teams have 1/6 of the payroll of the top teams.
The spread is part of the problem. Teams should have to spend a certain amount. And teams shouldn't be able to spend unlimited.
You don't think it's an issue. Many do.
MigratingOsprey
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Teams are limited currently though the luxury tax though.
They bargained this to start at $210M. I find less of a problem with teams spending 2x of the league average then those spending 1/5
For limits, why specifically a hard cap?
They bargained this to start at $210M. I find less of a problem with teams spending 2x of the league average then those spending 1/5
For limits, why specifically a hard cap?
But they aren't limited - teams go over the luxury cap.
Without a hard cap, there are too many loopholes.
MigratingOsprey
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What loopholes?
Very few teams will pay the tax. Most won't do it in consecutive years.
The dodgers will pay for last year and maybe SD. Other contending teams didn't make moves to stay below the threshold
The dodgers will pay more in tax than the lowest 3 teams spent in total payroll.
The proposal by the league is a $180M initial tax threshold with $100M floor.
I think that isn't terrible.
Looking back the last 5 years there is typically 4 teams spending above $180M and 15 spending under $100M
Very few teams will pay the tax. Most won't do it in consecutive years.
The dodgers will pay for last year and maybe SD. Other contending teams didn't make moves to stay below the threshold
The dodgers will pay more in tax than the lowest 3 teams spent in total payroll.
The proposal by the league is a $180M initial tax threshold with $100M floor.
I think that isn't terrible.
Looking back the last 5 years there is typically 4 teams spending above $180M and 15 spending under $100M
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Putting a hard cap on team payroll will only put more money in the owners pockets vs the players pockets.
That’s it. That’s all it will do.
That’s it. That’s all it will do.
Not if it is percentage of overall revenue
MigratingOsprey
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Has any league actually figured out how to decide what revenue is though?
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Whose revenue? Baseball is a local game. The Dodgers make a ton more money than the DBacks.
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And that is one of the issues. One of the reasons the NFL is so successful and profitable is that the revenue is shared.
MigratingOsprey
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MLB has revenue sharing.
It's allowing teams to backstop these long term, low revenue rebuilds while sucking money away from teams that may be more inclined to spend it
It's allowing teams to backstop these long term, low revenue rebuilds while sucking money away from teams that may be more inclined to spend it
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This is why I am not on the players side.
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