OT: NFL Network suspends Faulk, Taylor & Evans

[NJCardFan]

Society has gotten so bad that a man is no longer aloud to be a man and women are the only ones allowed to flirt or be sexual in any way and that's just the way it is. In a society that's supposed to be liberal and open nowadays it's down right stupid. All men must cut off their balls and become units in today's world.

I believe the term you're looking for is eunuch.

 

[NJCardFan]

My problem is that there is no equality when it comes to this subject. I mean, when it comes to sexual harassment or misconduct, the burden of proof is on the accused rather than the accuser. Take the Duke Lacrosse case. This woman accused these kids of raping her and the kids were tried and convicted in the court of public opinion before one shred of evidence was presented. Hell, Nifong wanted it prosecuted as a hate crime. The players were suspended even before a hearing was convened and the coach was forced to resign. Then the evidence began to mount that this woman lied. These kids' reputation and lives were turned upside down based on a lie. Did they get those games they were suspended back? No. Did the coach get his job back? No. These kids are still bring haunted by this all because of a lie. My point is, when it comes to sexual harassment or misconduct, there is no due process. It's guilty until proven innocent and the burden of proof is on the accused rather on the accuser. Women know this and they use it to their advantage. And so people here don't get all up in arms, I also believe that Al Franken and John Conyers deserve due process including an investigation and hearing instead of ad hoc prosecutions. This is not what this country is all about.

 

[Snakester]

THIS is stupid... to the point that you couldn't even spell eunuch right.

Society has BEEN so bad that women have been treated like crap FOREVER. Boo freaking hoo that you're not allowed to be a pig anymore and send dick picks to women.

i love it! I knew I would get some good responses.

 

[Snakester]

naw...its oaken

I love it now that's funny!

 

[iLLmatiC]

I'm sure I'll get ran out for saying this, but at what point are we going to start questioning some of these accusations? I just find it really weird that this is a trend all of a sudden.

 

[Snakester]

LOL

Nope, it is becoming a more advanced society where women should be treated as equals, and not demeaned and treated as sex objects. That is progress. Sorry if you feel threatened because you are no longer free to grab an ass or making sexual comments any time you want.


So by your standards, if a gay man who was you worked for in some capacity started commenting about how he wanted to pound your ass, and sent you dick pics, and grabbed your ass when you walked by, you'd be ok with that? And if 4-5 other gay men did the same to you weekly, you should just be happy that someone thought you were cute?

You take this crap too serious. My point is this country has gotten too politically correct and way too sensitive.

 

[iLLmatiC]

I thought this was funny..

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[AsUpRoDiGy]

I'm sure I'll get ran out for saying this, but at what point are we going to start questioning some of these accusations? I just find it really weird that this is a trend all of a sudden.

Clearly these claims need to be investigated, because without any proof it's merely a he said - she said situation. It's a "trend" now because women feel empowered to come forward, rather than sit in a dark corner thinking no one would believe them. A lot of the times these issues were swept under the rug...these women would lose their careers over making these types of accusations, but now their voices are being heard, and people are being held accountable (sort of).

 

[oaken1]

what we are witnessing in America today is the implementation of weaponized political correctness/culture shift.
Things like this should not even be reported as news until there is a legal conclusion.

 

[Dback Jon]

You take this crap too serious. My point is this country has gotten too politically correct and way too sensitive.

Which is easy to say when you're a straight white male who is never had to deal with any type of harassment or discrimination


It seems like you're being very sensitive about other males getting called out for their piggish and boorish behavior

 

[iLLmatiC]

Which is easy to say when you're a straight white male who is never had to deal with any type of harassment or discrimination


It seems like you're being very sensitive about other males getting called out for their piggish and boorish behavior

Ever heard of reverse racism? It happens more often than you think.

 

[TRW]

It is not a political “correctness” or political anything situation, it’s men, in this case, with no moral fiber at all being preditors and disgusting people (I won’t disrespect animals by even calling them THAT). If true they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. No one should have to endure that kind of crap.

Certainly due process will have to run its course and, if found baseless, the accusers need to face the consequences as well.

I don’t care what sex you are or your sexual orientation is, if you touch someone without their consent or you sexually harass another person and think that is OK then you are a despicable excuse for a human being.

I also know of someone who was falsley accused and it was horrible. But using that as a straw man argument to dismiss true accusations is asinine. A victim is not being too sensitive when being grabbed or lude comments are being said to them. They are being harassed and assaulted.

Sorry if that is harsh but it’s how I feel.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Incorrect cause and effect. Men don't have to be stupid, sexist, etc. That is their choice. In the past, women, minorities, etc suffered in silence as second class citizens. You are saying in your world, the only way to make things right is to elevate the straight white male back to his previous position of power and privilege, and the concerns of others are not important.

It sounds like it is the male that can not adjust to the new realities of equality, and they are the ones that need to GROW UP.

I grew up in a two-parent household, where my mom and dad were equal, both worked, both did housework, etc. All four of us kids turned out to be very productive members of society. Many families break up because either the woman isn't willing to suffer abuse that she normally would keep quiet about, or the man can't be bothered to be the provider.

This...If a family wants to be more old-school traditional, where the wife stays home and raises kids, etc...that's fine and good. This, however, does not give men the right to treat them, or any other women, as less of a human being, just because of the family roles.

 

[Dback Jon]

Ever heard of reverse racism? It happens more often than you think.

Can you please provide me an example of institutionalized racism that happens to white people

Have white people been discriminated against by people on an individual basis yes as a institutionalized at you from a government businesses etc. I would like to see some concrete examples

 

[oaken1]

Can you please provide me an example of institutionalized racism that happens to white people

Have white people been discriminated against by people on an individual basis yes as a institutionalized at you from a government businesses etc. I would like to see some concrete examples

read affirmative action.

 

[NJCardFan]

I'm sure I'll get ran out for saying this, but at what point are we going to start questioning some of these accusations? I just find it really weird that this is a trend all of a sudden.

That's my point. This notion that all women need to be believed is absurd. Women don't lie? Ever? If you don't think women are capable of lying then you've obviously never been in divorce court. But the scary thing is that unlike our justice system, when it comes to these types of accusations, the burden of proof is on the accused instead of the accuser and the accused is guilty until proven innocent and even when proven innocent, their lives are often irreparably ruined and nothing is ever done to the one's who make the false claims. What needs to be done is that there needs to be laws of consequence to the one's who are proven to be lying. Right now, there is none. So what do these accusers have to lose?

 

[NJCardFan]

Can you please provide me an example of institutionalized racism that happens to white people

Have white people been discriminated against by people on an individual basis yes as a institutionalized at you from a government businesses etc. I would like to see some concrete examples

I see it where I work. I'll give you an example:

Black officer on an outside hospital detail. When the next shift comes in to relieve him, he's missing a fully loaded magazine that was supposed to be in the weapon. That's 13 live 40 caliber rounds that are now missing(strike 1)(I'll leave out the fact that this magazine that was supposed to be in his weapon is fully loaded instead of 1 being in the chamber pretty much rendering his weapon a paperweight). He goes on to blame the previous shift meaning he is now admitting to sitting on this missing magazine for 8 hours without reporting it(strike 2). Strike 3 is that he is caught on video leaving his post and the hospital leaving his partner alone in order to go get some food. After the investigation, he was given 5 days suspension. To this day the magazine hasn't been recovered.

A white officer working a job he wasn't in the previous day discovers a missing tool in this area and reports it to his superiors. This tool was not handed out on this particular day but was missing. The white officer is held responsible and after the "investigation" gets fired. He eventually gets his job back but is given 90 days off.

Sounds equitable, right?

I have several other examples but you'd probably not believe me.

 

[oaken1]

I see it where I work. I'll give you an example:

Black officer on an outside hospital detail. When the next shift comes in to relieve him, he's missing a fully loaded magazine that was supposed to be in the weapon. That's 13 live 40 caliber rounds that are now missing(strike 1)(I'll leave out the fact that this magazine that was supposed to be in his weapon is fully loaded instead of 1 being in the chamber pretty much rendering his weapon a paperweight). He goes on to blame the previous shift meaning he is now admitting to sitting on this missing magazine for 8 hours without reporting it(strike 2). Strike 3 is that he is caught on video leaving his post and the hospital leaving his partner alone in order to go get some food. After the investigation, he was given 5 days suspension. To this day the magazine hasn't been recovered.

A white officer working a job he wasn't in the previous day discovers a missing tool in this area and reports it to his superiors. This tool was not handed out on this particular day but was missing. The white officer is held responsible and after the "investigation" gets fired. He eventually gets his job back but is given 90 days off.

Sounds equitable, right?

I have several other examples but you'd probably not believe me.

he aint gonna believe ya... white men who prefer women are the devil...
Jon be like Momma Boucher
" That's nonsense, I invented electricity. Ben Franklin is the Devil!"

 

[iLLmatiC]

he aint gonna believe ya... white men who prefer women are the devil...
Jon be like Momma Boucher
" That's nonsense, I invented electricity. Ben Franklin is the Devil!"

That's the vibe that I'm getting. Duly noted.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I see it where I work. I'll give you an example:

Black officer on an outside hospital detail. When the next shift comes in to relieve him, he's missing a fully loaded magazine that was supposed to be in the weapon. That's 13 live 40 caliber rounds that are now missing(strike 1)(I'll leave out the fact that this magazine that was supposed to be in his weapon is fully loaded instead of 1 being in the chamber pretty much rendering his weapon a paperweight). He goes on to blame the previous shift meaning he is now admitting to sitting on this missing magazine for 8 hours without reporting it(strike 2). Strike 3 is that he is caught on video leaving his post and the hospital leaving his partner alone in order to go get some food. After the investigation, he was given 5 days suspension. To this day the magazine hasn't been recovered.

A white officer working a job he wasn't in the previous day discovers a missing tool in this area and reports it to his superiors. This tool was not handed out on this particular day but was missing. The white officer is held responsible and after the "investigation" gets fired. He eventually gets his job back but is given 90 days off.

Sounds equitable, right?

I have several other examples but you'd probably not believe me.

You do realize the difference between annecdotal evidence and institutional evidence of racism, right? (This is a rhetorical question... you obviously don’t considering that’s what Jon asked for) (and rhetorical means you don’t have to answer because it’s a question I already know the answer to).

 

[Stout]

I'll give you institutional racism. I legally can't say where this happened. It was a state government facility that employed about 1,000 employees. Someone close to me not only witnessed 'affirmative action' used as a punitive tool used against white men that management didn't like, but experienced it. The men passed over were over qualified for the positions, and when illiterate black men were promoted instead, were told they were 'affirmative action positions. Yeah, reverse racism is real; it CAN be institutionalized, although, admittedly, it is rarer than not.

 

[GatorAZ]

How did this turn into another "I'll decide whether or not another person has been discriminated against" type threads?

 

[Dback Jon]

read affirmative action.

Again please tell me how that is discriminating against whites, Who still got the majority of Slots

 

[schutd]

I'm sure I'll get ran out for saying this, but at what point are we going to start questioning some of these accusations? I just find it really weird that this is a trend all of a sudden.

You are right, being a pig headed man was trendy for many years. I happen to like to pendulum swing. This ish is LONG overdue. Happening in my business as well. Good riddance.

 

[traveler]

Do u guys have an idea why moral values dropped drastically?
I mean since when?