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Boss is a 3-4 DE not sure how you’d come to that conclusion

Bosa is not even close to being a 3-4 DE. There is absolutely no doubt that he would be an OLB. He's an elite pass rusher that is not nearly big enough to play DE in a 3-4.
 

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Good. More pressure on the G-Men.

They’re sitting at #6. When the Redskins traded for RG3 they were at #6 and traded #6 plus two more 1st rd picks along with a 2nd to move up 4 spots. The Giants will be desperate.


Let it be known the Cardinals are thinking about trading the #1 pick to drive up the value.

Make them sweat.

I want to enjoy this situation to the max. :cool:
 

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1. The "biggest skillset" in a player is NOT availability. There's no way you actually believe that. The 49ers once spent a 3rd round pick on Marcus Lattimore, who had a likely career ending injury. The Cowboys spent a 2nd round pick on Jaylon Smith, despite him having possible nerve damage in his knee. The Patriots sent a draft pick to the Browns on Josh Gordon, who had not played in like 4 years. The Raiders sent a 3rd round pick to Pittsburgh for Martavis Bryant, who has probably missed more time than he's played because of drug suspensions.

How could you possibly think that?

2. The Bosas aren't nearly as injury prone as you believe. I'm pretty confident that Joey Bosa did not miss one game in college because of injury. In the NFL, I think he missed 4 games his rookie year because of a hamstring injury, and half of this season because of a foot injury that the Chargers mangled in their treatment. Nick on the other hand tore his ACL his senior year of high school, and then had surgery on a "core muscle injury" in his 3rd year. I don't believe that he missed any games during his freshman & sophomore seasons.

They literally wrote a story on Joey & Nick's unique flexibility that makes them LESS susceptible to the types of "normal" injuries that you claim haunts them.
https://sports.yahoo.com/joey-bosas...k-best-player-college-football-161319002.html

3. I don't know what you have against the Bosas, but claiming that Joey Bosa isn't for sure a top 10 defensive lineman is pretty insane.

From PFF: "Bosa is now one of the game’s premier edge defenders, notching more total pressures (134) over his first two years in the league than any other player in the PFF era, despite missing the first four games of his career."

I also have no idea what Jadeveon Clowney has to do with Joey Bosa. 1) They weren't in the same draft. 2) Clowney is most definitely NOT the best pass rusher, let alone player, from his draft (Khalil Mack).

Just terrible takes all around.

1. Because of the fact that in the NFL aviability is the most needed Skillset in any player. if you are injured it doesn't matter how good you could be, you don't win SB because you could be the best D or could have the best QB if his finger isn't danged up or he doesn't sit on the bench or in the tube. that on draft day many draft for potential, a given, that doing so with the #1 pick is wise... i don't think so, and I don't think that with a top 10 pick you should. Gosh... many on here are complaining about Nkdmiche and his not aviability or the on of DJ Humphries. Is Bosa good, yes, is he elite, maybe is he and his family injury prone, yes.

2. C'mon now, that was why Joey sat out 4 games of his rookie year, because he himself believed that they are... just... Joey played the amount of games others play in 1 season in 2 years ... that is already 50% of missing time, not NK terriotory or Beanie Wells ... but ... gosh enough for a top pick

3. yeah others post more sacks etc. but like I said debatable for sure.

Clowney was higly rewarded was seen as the top notch consensus player ... than sat out because of injury fear and so on.

Got drafted top ... to see that he was injured and an other player (Khalil Mack) was way better. I don't know, what BOSA and CLOWNEY could have in common. At least do you see the similarities? No?

good, than let me formulate this differently, don't let us draft the Clowney of this years draft but the Khalil Mack of this years draft.
 

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Bosa is not even close to being a 3-4 DE. There is absolutely no doubt that he would be an OLB. He's an elite pass rusher that is not nearly big enough to play DE in a 3-4.

If we're going to a 3-4 I'm not taking Bosa number 1 then. I don't think he has the hips to run, and balance to cover in space as an OSLB. I think he'll be best playing in even man fronts. If you doubt he has the size to play DE in a 4-3 then I would have to ask how you think he has the size to set the edge in a 3-4? I think Josh Allen is the prototypical 3-4 OSLB in this draft, but I am not a big fan of drafting OSLB early in the draft because usually there is a steep learning curve. That is just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
 

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If we're going to a 3-4 I'm not taking Bosa number 1 then. I don't think he has the hips to run, and balance to cover in space as an OSLB. I think he'll be best playing in even man fronts. If you doubt he has the size to play DE in a 4-3 then I would have to ask how you think he has the size to set the edge in a 3-4? I think Josh Allen is the prototypical 3-4 OSLB in this draft, but I am not a big fan of drafting OSLB early in the draft because usually there is a steep learning curve. That is just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
I really don't see them keeping the pick. Much depends on FA.
 

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If we're going to a 3-4 I'm not taking Bosa number 1 then. I don't think he has the hips to run, and balance to cover in space as an OSLB. I think he'll be best playing in even man fronts. If you doubt he has the size to play DE in a 4-3 then I would have to ask how you think he has the size to set the edge in a 3-4? I think Josh Allen is the prototypical 3-4 OSLB in this draft, but I am not a big fan of drafting OSLB early in the draft because usually there is a steep learning curve. That is just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
I agree mostly. With that said how many times are you really asking an OLB in the 3-4 to cover? Mostly asked to rush the passer.
 

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Quite often actually, are you going to have CJ cover in space while Bosa is blitzing? It's a conundrum, and one to think about.
I disagree about the frequency despite what explanation says. How often did you Chandler or Marcus in coverage before this season when both were OLB? How about James Harrison outside of that horrific play in the SB that still freaks me out? Lol

Imo it’s alot less than we believe
 
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