OT: Raiders coach punches assistant

[Southpaw]

First he sucker punched the guy and now he doesn't want to talk about it. That comes off as gutless. Seems as if the guy might be having 'roid backflash.

 

[JeffGollin]

OT: Raiders coach punches assistant
That is s-o-o-o Oakland!

 

[TheHopToad]

Same old Raiders...

 

[Russ Smith]

To be fair it happened August 5th before the preseason game. They seemed to take care of Dallas, so maybe it's what the team needed. Nothing surprises me about the Faiders anymore.

According to the SJ Mercury that's because none of the players knew about it until the story broke recently.

Asomugha said the players were shocked to hear about it and assumed the initial reports were untrue until the story broke big.

The interesting thing is the Merc is claiming Cable will not let Hanson back on the staff. He denies anything happened, Hanson refused to tell the hospital who hit him, but whatever happened, apparently Cable is firing Hanson. I'm no lawyer but boss punches assistant in face, breaks jaw, and then fires assistant sure sounds like an open and shut lawsuit for hostile workplace environment to me?

I think Cable is relying on Hanson being afraid he will get blackballed in the NFL if he sues.

I'm also assuming that Al Davis is paying Hanson to go away quietly.

 

[Gaddabout]

Can you think of any reason Cable could have been justified? I can. While we're speculating on what really happen, I'm just considering options that Cable isn't the awful man he's made out to be. Maybe the guy made an inappropriate pass at Amanda Cable (his daughter). Or worse.

 

[cardsfanmd]

From what I've read, Lane Kiffin had to be restrained from going after the same guy last year. He then suspended him, but was soon fired. Apparently Hanson is an Al Davis flunkie.

 

[Russ Smith]

Adande made a great point on ESPN abuot this. Steve Smith was suspended 2 games for punching a teammate, Roger Goodell did that, so if he follows precedent if Cable punched Hanson, he should be suspended at least 2 games.

 

[conraddobler]

I think we should get back to a time where if someone says something past a certain line your'e justified in decking them, broken jaws heal, better than shooting someone or gettting drunk and running over them.

 

[Pariah]

I think we should get back to a time where if someone says something past a certain line your'e justified in decking them, broken jaws heal, better than shooting someone or gettting drunk and running over them.

Sounds like the Raiders might be there, right? The guy isn't pressing charges.

I don't think I'd press charges if I'd said anything to anyone that might result in a fight--even if I lost. I think that's the way it should be--a fight between men isn't assault.

 

[conraddobler]

Sounds like the Raiders might be there, right? The guy isn't pressing charges.

I don't think I'd press charges if I'd said anything to anyone that might result in a fight--even if I lost. I think that's the way it should be--a fight between men isn't assault.

Nope, not if you have any honor.

I mean it's one thing to be out with your family and get sucker punched, then sure that's assualt but if I question your heritage or comment on your daughters anatomy or whatever then it's comming and I deserve it and if I have a shred of self respect I won't haul you into court for it.

 

[Stout]

I think we should get back to a time where if someone says something past a certain line your'e justified in decking them, broken jaws heal, better than shooting someone or gettting drunk and running over them.

Absolutely! I have a social theory that I won't get into too much depth with, only saying that I think the cause of much of the outrageous violence we see in society today is that our society has tried to litigate violence out of our genes, when in actuality man is inherently violent by nature, at least to an extent.

 

[boisesuns]

Former Idaho Vandal....not a surprise here.

 

[clif]

For some reason I keep thinking about Mike Tyson's punch in the Hangover!

 

[SuperSpck]

Tidbit from SI:

JIM TROTTER
When he was named interim coach last October, after Lane Kiffin was fired four games into his second season, Tom Cable sat in on a defensive staff meeting at the Raiders' training facility. The assistants were giving their thoughts on this and that when assistant secondary coach Randy Hanson began to speak.

At that point Cable basically waved off Hanson and told him to stop talking, adding that he didn't want to hear anymore from him. Then, according to one assistant in the room, Cable said to Hanson: "If I could fire you today, I would."

Cable denies the exchange, but a second assistant later confirmed the story to SI.com.

This isn't brought up in an attempt to draw a link to allegations that Cable struck Hanson earlier this month and broke his jaw -- although you'd have to be a member of the original O.J. jury to believe "nothing happened," as Cable claims. Rather it's brought up to address the larger point of how management plays with fire when it doesn't allow head coaches to select their staffs.

Cable, who was made the fulltime coach in February, claims he and managing general partner Al Davis were on the same page when choosing assistant coaches. But it would take a moon-leap of faith to believe that Cable wanted Hanson, who actually was demoted this year to defensive assistant.

The belief among many people in the building is that Hanson is on the payroll largely because he is loyal to Davis, who always has been a sucker for anyone professing their love for the Silver and Black. Last year Hanson told the Contra Costa Times that working for the Raiders was his "dream" job, something he wanted "all his life."

That has created the perception that he is a snitch for Davis, which fosters an air of distrust among some staff members. Sadly, Davis should have known how this was going to end. He required Kiffin to keep former defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and the two never got along, ultimately creating a rift on the team between the offensive and defensive staffs.

from the same article, the Cardinals tie in:

-- In 2007, Arizona, Ken Whisenhunt wanted to bring in his own guys after being hired. However, management asked him to keep defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast because Pendergast was familiar with the personnel and had had some success.

Whisenhunt acquiesced, but after the unit surrendered 27 or more points in six games last season, including five games in which it allowed 35 or more, he decided a change was needed -- despite the Cardinals reaching the Super Bowl last season.

"The change was about productivity more than anything else," Whisenhunt says. "Looking at it over a period of years, not just a few games or a season, I felt that if we hold our players accountable for their performance, then we have to be true to that with our staff."

Whisenhunt praised Pendergast as a coach, but clearly the fit wasn't right.

The same could be said in Oakland, where Hanson has been a lightning rod of controversy since Kiffin suspended him last season for conduct he considered to be detrimental to the team. The discipline was done without the approval of Davis, who immediately reinstated Hanson. That further created the perception that Hanson was a Davis guy.

Interesting stuff. Give the whole article a look here:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jim_trotter/08/20/raiders/index.html