OT: Rex Ryan to be HC of Buffalo Bills

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

So all these years he thought he was an offensive genius?
That IS impressive.

That's dessem up!

 

[MadCardDisease]

And thou were wrong about that, so how have you modified your thinking in response to the evidence?

Inherited a 9-7 team. Drove his team into the ground. Left the offense a complete mess. They should have fired him 2 years ago. Instead he left the team at 4-12. Yep, just like his dad!

 

[kerouac9]

Inherited a 9-7 team. Drove his team into the ground. Left the offense a complete mess. They should have fired him 2 years ago. Instead he left the team at 4-12. Yep, just like his dad!

Hm... Isn't that a little reductionist? Inherited a 9-7 team and lead 2 teams with Mark Sanchez at quarterback to the AFC Championship game while sharing a division with the most dominant franchise of the last two decades. 2 losing seasons in 6 years. Had 1 seasons when they weren't a Top 10 defense, and that year they were 11th.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Hm... Isn't that a little reductionist? Inherited a 9-7 team and lead 2 teams with Mark Sanchez at quarterback to the AFC Championship game while sharing a division with the most dominant franchise of the last two decades. 2 losing seasons in 6 years. Had 1 seasons when they weren't a Top 10 defense, and that year they were 11th.

Yup, Rex sux...lol IMO, he learned a lot, matured and became humbled during his tenure with the Jets...I really think his next stop will be more successful. He knows he needs a QB and/or an offensive guru to turn to. Also, let's also not look past the fact that things really went downhill for Rex with Idzik bringing in the talent. His failure in NY is similar to Whiz in AZ with Graves as his GM.

 

[joeshmo]

4 reasons why Rex picked the Bills.

1 - Stick it to the Jets twice a year.
2 - Stick it to Belichick twice a year.
3 - Built in D that he likes a lot.
4 - Didnt like the Falcons dragging their feet.

 

[kerouac9]

Yup, Rex sux...lol IMO, he learned a lot, matured and became humbled during his tenure with the Jets...I really think his next stop will be more successful. He knows he needs a QB and/or an offensive guru to turn to. Also, let's also not look past the fact that things really went downhill for Rex with Idzik bringing in the talent. His failure in NY is similar to Whiz in AZ with Graves as his GM.

Yeah... I don't think that Rex even had control over his roster the way that Whis did in his last several years here. The players always ended up staying with Rex, and the perception of the Jets feels like it's leaps and bounds better than it was under Mangini before Ryan arrived.

Grantland had a big think-piece on the Ryan legacy in New York, and they walked away thinking that Rex is in a lot of ways the mirror image of Belicheck, with the same potential for greatness. Rex walks into a situation in Buffalo that's leaps and bounds better on offense and defense than he's leaving in New York--or ever had. He's never had a quality running back with the Jets or a wide receiver with a lot of value. Yes, there's a quarterback problem in Buffalo that's compounded by lacking a first-round pick.

We'll see, but to drop Rex Ryan into the same failure bucket as that guy in Oakland seems hopelessly unfounded.

 

[sunsfan88]

Why would Ryan pass on Atlanta? Doesn't make sense.

Maybe Atlanta passed on him?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Hm... Isn't that a little reductionist? Inherited a 9-7 team and lead 2 teams with Mark Sanchez at quarterback to the AFC Championship game while sharing a division with the most dominant franchise of the last two decades. 2 losing seasons in 6 years. Had 1 seasons when they weren't a Top 10 defense, and that year they were 11th.

No question he is a great defensive mind. His dad was as well. He can win games with his defense alone. However give him enough time and he will eventually turn the offense into total crap. He will also dig himself into a hole with his mouth. Which is great for news clippings but not so much if you are a fan of the team that he coaches.

 

[kerouac9]

No question he is a great defensive mind. His dad was as well. He can win games with his defense alone. However give him enough time and he will eventually turn the offense into total crap. He will also dig himself into a hole with his mouth. Which is great for news clippings but not so much if you are a fan of the team that he coaches.

Rex never had the personnel control Buddy did here. Was the offense good before Rex came to town? Even with Brett Favre under center in Mangini's last season, the Jets offense ranked only 16th.

Ryan suffered with just Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith as his starting quarterbacks. His leading rushers the last four seasons were Shonn Greene and Chris Ivory. Before this year, the leading receivers for the Jets were Dustin Keller and Jeremy Kerley.

Blame the offense on Mike Tennenbaum and John Idzik. Those were the guys bringing in the Jimmys and Joes.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Rex never had the personnel control Buddy did here. Was the offense good before Rex came to town? Even with Brett Favre under center in Mangini's last season, the Jets offense ranked only 16th.

Ryan suffered with just Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith as his starting quarterbacks. His leading rushers the last four seasons were Shonn Greene and Chris Ivory. Before this year, the leading receivers for the Jets were Dustin Keller and Jeremy Kerley.

Blame the offense on Mike Tennenbaum and John Idzik. Those were the guys bringing in the Jimmys and Joes.

I don't know. Ryan and his staff were the ones who targeted Sanchez. Ryan and Tennenbaum worked to build that team together. In fact didn't Rayn and his staff have secret meetings with Sanchez so that other teams wouldn't know how interested they were in him? They still ended having to trade up in the draft to grab him. Sanchez was Rex's guy.

Plus many people think that Rex will go after Sanchez in free agency and bring him in to Buffalo.

As for Geno Smith I'm guessing that was an Idzik call. So yes by the time Idzik took over Rex had little control of the roster and deservedly so.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Ryan has been a winner for a long time....oops no he hasn't

I'd be ticked off if he was the coach of my team

 

[Passepartout]

Really Rex did good the first few years a couple of AFC Championship Title runner ups but then it all went downhill from there.

 

[chickenhead]

This makes sense to me. He's going to a team with which he's familiar and, grudge matches aside, where he has at least 6 games against teams he knows well. Some may think that the better move would be to go somewhere with a better offense because you believe you can fix the defense, but I think liking the personnel in your expertise is a better starting point. He also brings some attention to a team and a market that could use some.

Anyway, the Bills primarily play the AFC East, AFC South, and NFC East next year so we'll watch from afar with minimal impact (unless the Cards are neck-and-neck with an NFC East team for seeding).

 

[MadCardDisease]

"I know it's been 15 years since the Bills made the playoffs. Well, get ready man. We're going. We are going." - Rex Ryan

Sure sounds a hell of a lot like "You've got a winner in town"

 

[Jetstream Green]

Rex Ryan... isn't that a NFL term for a 'few' years lol

 

[MadCardDisease]

Sure sounds a hell of a lot like "You've got a winner in town"

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-15/news/buddy-ryan-leads-the-cardinals-jugger-not/full/

"You've got a winner in town," Buddy Ryan told us that fine day.
This was a few minutes after Ryan signed that fat contract with Bill Bidwill, the Cardinals owner.

Buddy Ryan reminds me of Jackie Gleason playing Ralph Kramden. All Ryan needs on the sidelines is one of Kramden's old bus-driver uniforms. Ryan's got a bigger and even more boastful mouth than Gleason, the proverbial Great One, had, and this time, it has placed him in a predicament he may not emerge from intact.



"We're going to be in the playoffs," Ryan assured one and all. Oh, sure. Where are they headed now after two performances that have revealed this is an Arizona Cardinals team without an offense?

If Ryan ends up getting the boot, he will have no one to blame but himself.

Once he got the job, he fell in love with his own legend. All you have to do to win in the National Football League is to have Buddy Ryan standing on the sidelines.

Using that as a yardstick, it's easy to understand what happened next. Ryan was like a man who had just won the lottery. He was not only the coach but also the general manager. He had the power to hire and fire.

Like I said the apple doesn't fall far from the tree

"I know it's been 15 years since the Bills made the playoffs. Well, get ready man. We're going. We are going." - Rex Ryan

 

[NJCardFan]

What's he supposed to say? The Bills are a franchise in flux. And it's not like he did as his father did and tooted his own horn from the rip. All he says is that he's going to take the Bills to the playoffs. Considering he took the Jets to the AFC title game 2 years in a row with Mark Sanchez at QB and little else makes me want to give the guy a chance.