OT: The 2023 NFL draft combine thread.

[Krangodnzr]

Ok so I'm not the only one who knows about him.

You do realize that most of us here are familiar with guys like University of Alabama Birmingham RB DeWayne McBride?

Anthony Richardson was the starting QB at Florida and was highly hyped going into the 2022 season. He's a very well known player.

 

[football karma]

He will go top 10…. Possibly top 5.

he should give Josh Allen 10% of his signing bonus if he does

Allen made drafting the elite physical specimen with good but no elite actual QB stats acceptable

 

[football karma]

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i will go even further Galaxy braining:

by getting an additional first in 2024, it gives the Cards assets to draft (another) franchise QB if Monti/ JG conclude after a year that Kyler isnt salvageable

 

[Krangodnzr]

i will go even further Galaxy braining:

by getting an additional first in 2024, it gives the Cards assets to draft (another) franchise QB if Monti/ JG conclude after a year that Kyler isnt salvageable

And two guys (Drake Maye and Caleb Williams) who are way better prospects than this years crop.

 

[Krangodnzr]

he should give Josh Allen 10% of his signing bonus if he does

Allen made drafting the elite physical specimen with good but no elite actual QB stats acceptable

I wouldn't call Allen or Richardson's college stats "good".

Both put up pretty pedestrian numbers. ASU's transfer QB from Notre Dame put up better numbers. I'd argue Richardson's stats were actually quite terrible. 53% completion? What is this, 1984?

 

[DVontel]

by getting an additional first in 2024, it gives the Cards assets to draft (another) franchise QB if Monti/ JG conclude after a year that Kyler isnt salvageable

I mean, if Caleb & Maye are as great most say they are(they won’t be by this time next year, they’ll get nitpicked to death just like every other QB has in history), teams that are in prime position to pick super high, won’t trade away from them two because they’re going to draft them.

That’s why I find this whole “ammo/assets for next year” ordeal moot.

 

[BritCard]

Anthony Richardson being a top 10 pick just makes me laugh.

Trey Lance went #3 and nobody was shocked. Richardson is far better than Lance.

 

[BritCard]

I wouldn't call Allen or Richardson's college stats "good".

Both put up pretty pedestrian numbers. ASU's transfer QB from Notre Dame put up better numbers. I'd argue Richardson's stats were actually quite terrible. 53% completion? What is this, 1984?

All the things that made Allen go #7, his size, speed, arm etc Richardson has more of. And he's a better QB at the same stage.

The 9ers overdrafted Lance for the same reasons. So it wouldn't be a shock at all to see Richardson go high.

 

[football karma]

I mean, if Caleb & Maye are as great most say they are(they won’t be by this time next year, they’ll get nitpicked to death just like every other QB has in history), teams that are in prime position to pick super high, won’t trade away from them two because they’re going to draft them.

That’s why I find this whole “ammo/assets for next year” ordeal moot.

part of my assumption is that if the 2023 Cardinals win total over/under is somewhere around 6 --- a bad Kyler for 9 games or so probably means they go under

that will put them in the top 10 of next years draft.

Yes -- they could have enough teams in front of them to make trading up impossible, but it could also be similar to this year: team that just drafted their franchise QB this year has a top 2 pick as a result and is open to moving down.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Trey Lance went #3 and nobody was shocked. Richardson is far better than Lance.

How's that worked out? It won't shock me to see him drafted highly. Just makes me laugh because he's not very good at playing the position.

 

[Krangodnzr]

All the things that made Allen go #7, his size, speed, arm etc Richardson has more of. And he's a better QB at the same stage.

The 9ers overdrafted Lance for the same reasons. So it wouldn't be a shock at all to see Richardson go high.

I don't know if Richardson is actually a better QB.

If you remove the combine workout, Richardson is likely undraftable.

 

[oaken1]

he should give Josh Allen 10% of his signing bonus if he does

Allen made drafting the elite physical specimen with good but no elite actual QB stats acceptable

Can say the same for Young and Kyler.

this draft will give us a good idea what the nfl thinks about Murray... if they think kyler busted there is no way Young goes first round... however if he goes top 5, the NFL obviously has changed their mindset on quarterback stature.

 

[BritCard]

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[LA Redbird]

You do realize that most of us here are familiar with guys like University of Alabama Birmingham RB DeWayne McBride?

Anthony Richardson was the starting QB at Florida and was highly hyped going into the 2022 season. He's a very well known player.

I was being facetious

 

[BritCard]

I think this year's draft is going to look nothing like what people currently think.

Especially the top 15 or so.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think this year's draft is going to look nothing like what people currently think.

Especially the top 15 or so.

Lots of known unknowns.

I think Levis could go real high....or could fall.

Same with Richardson. Josh Allen put up crap numbers in college and Richardson's might be worse.

Wilson might even go number one...or he falls to 10.

 

[GatorAZ]

I just want to know what it feels like to throw a ball this effortlessly far.
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[GoldGloveschmidt]

I mean, if Caleb & Maye are as great most say they are(they won’t be by this time next year, they’ll get nitpicked to death just like every other QB has in history), teams that are in prime position to pick super high, won’t trade away from them two because they’re going to draft them.

That’s why I find this whole “ammo/assets for next year” ordeal moot.

The 2 picks can be used to trade up for Harrison jr

 

[Krangodnzr]

I mean, if Caleb & Maye are as great most say they are(they won’t be by this time next year, they’ll get nitpicked to death just like every other QB has in history), teams that are in prime position to pick super high, won’t trade away from them two because they’re going to draft them.

That’s why I find this whole “ammo/assets for next year” ordeal moot.

Both have size, arms, and can run.

Maye especially is a great prospect because it's not like he's had the supporting cast that Stroud or Young have had.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I just want to know what it feels like to throw a ball this effortlessly far.
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What can't he do? Hit 60% of his passes like a normal prospect.

 

[DVontel]

Both have size, arms, and can run.

Maye especially is a great prospect because it's not like he's had the supporting cast that Stroud or Young have had.

We’ll see by this time next year.

Fields was supposed to be maybe an inch behind Trevor Lawrence as a prospect until he was the 4th QB drafted in his own class.

Wouldn’t be shocked if the same happened to either of them.

 

[BritCard]

Lots of known unknowns.

I think Levis could go real high....or could fall.

Same with Richardson. Josh Allen put up crap numbers in college and Richardson's might be worse.

Wilson might even go number one...or he falls to 10.

I think an offensive head coach, maybe someone like Reich with a QB background is going to look at the physical tools and think they can fix the issues.

A lot of his problems are mechanics so they may be right.

 

[BritCard]

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[GatorAZ]

What can't he do? Hit 60% of his passes like a normal prospect.

Dude I know I just wanna do this once though:
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[Harry]

John Michael Schmitz confirmed he met with the Arizona Cardinals

https://www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/news/arizona-cardinals-meet-top-offensive-lineman-nfl-combine

If he’s there at 34, they will take him