OT: Trent Richardson traded to Colts for 2014 #1

[Buckybird]

I agree. Richardson is pretty overated at this point. He had a very good OL to run behind and he's been pretty pedestrain.

Maybe he'll flourish in Indy but if I'm Cleveland, I make this trade. Just another reason why, in today's NFL, you don't take RB's very high in the draft.

Unless its a guy like AD

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Unless its a guy like AD

True. That draft also yielded Lycnh in round 1 but it's been pretty underwhelming for first round RB's since:
2008: McFadden, Felix Jones, Chris Johnson. CJ has been the best but he hasn't been a force ever since his one big year.

2009: Moreno, Donald Brown, Beannie. Only Beanie has been great from that group.

2010: Spiller and Ryan Matthews. Could have just as easily found similar production from later round guys, although Spiller may become a force.

2011: Mark Ingram- bust and undrafted Pierre Thomas is better.

2012: Richardson, Doug Martin, David Wilson. One's been traded, one's been benched, and the other shows promise.

 

[GatorAZ]

Outstanding for Cleveland. The current regime had no connections to Weeden/Richardson i'm glad they they tore up their 2011 draft and tanking for a QB who isn't 29.

Don't like it for the Colts at all cause their ceiling is still a wildcard team with Richardson. If they miss the playoffs they'll regret this one. Keep your 1st rounder, get Ballard back next year and draft a RB late.

 

[Cheesebeef]

2009: Moreno, Donald Brown, Beannie. Only Beanie has been great from that group.

surely, the Beanie comment was made in jest, no?

 

[bankybruce]

surely, the Beanie comment was made in jest, no?

I thought the same thing

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

surprised they couldn't have gotten more for him.....like a 3 or 4 thrown in.

 

[kerouac9]

Outstanding for Cleveland. The current regime had no connections to Weeden/Richardson i'm glad they they tore up their 2011 draft and tanking for a QB who isn't 29.

Don't like it for the Colts at all cause their ceiling is still a wildcard team with Richardson. If they miss the playoffs they'll regret this one. Keep your 1st rounder, get Ballard back next year and draft a RB late.

Vick Ballard isn't very good, either.

I don't get the bagging on Trent Richardson. Probably overdrafted, yeah, but the Colts are trying to maintain a standard of excellence they accidentially set last season against a cupcake schedule.

Richardson had 3 100+ yard games and a 95-yard game when the defense understood that he was the only offensive skill position player that franchise had. Not too shabby.

With Richardson, Indy could have a pretty good, cheap young core of skill position players for the next five years with Luck and T.Y. Hilton.

surely, the Beanie comment was made in jest, no?

Beanie had two good seasons, which is more than can be said for the rest of that group.

We really wanted Brown. Super scout: Steve Keim.

 

[bankybruce]

Beanie had two good seasons, which is more than can be said for the rest of that group.

We really wanted Brown. Super scout: Steve Keim.

So you are a Brown fan? I don't understand your comment.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Beanie had two good seasons, which is more than can be said for the rest of that group.

a) I was responding to someone saying Beanie was GREAT. that to me was never the case. good...eh. but again, the conversation wasn't about "good". it was about Beanie being GREAT.

b) Beanie's two good seasons were 797 yards rushing with 143 yard recieving for a total of 937 yards from scrimmage, 7 TDs and 1047 yards rushing and 50 recieving for a total of 1107 yards and 10 TDs.

Meanwhile, Moreno's best two seasons were 947 yard rushing and 213 yards receiving for a total of 1160 and 9 TDs and 779 yards rushing and 372 receiving for a total of 1151 and 8 TDs.

so it looks like they both had two okay at best seasons, and even in those seasons, it can be argued that Moreno was the more productive back with more yards from scrimmage and the same amount of touchdowns.

not to mention...that Moreno is actually still in the league and Beanie has washed out.

all that being said, neither of them ever had ANY greatness in them, which was the only thing I was responding to.





Moreno's

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Overrated...meh.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

surely, the Beanie comment was made in jest, no?

I thought the same thing

Yes, it was thrown if for effect.

Just seeing if you read the fine print .

 

[TJ]

Browns now need a RB for this year but in general are in a rebuilding mode.

So I'm thinking: Ryan Williams for Joe Thomas.

????

Seriously, if I'm Keim, I'd offer them Williams for a 5th or 6th.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Seriously, if I'm Keim, I'd offer them Williams for a 5th or 6th.

They already have a RB who gets hurt every year in Montario Hardesty.

 

[SeattleCard]

Brownie fans aren't happy, to say the least:

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26763&page=1

 

[ajcardfan]

Personally, I think the Browns raped the Colts on this deal.

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Browns now need a RB for this year but in general are in a rebuilding mode.

So I'm thinking: Ryan Williams for Joe Thomas.

????

If this happened, I'd crap my pants...on video...and I'd post on YouTube with he title "I'm So Happy I just Crapped My Pants!"

 

[ajcardfan]

If this happened, I'd crap my pants...on video...and I'd post on YouTube with he title "I'm So Happy I just Crapped My Pants!"

Yeah, I would too. It would be the first time a player who is routinely inactive at a relatively cheap position to fill would be traded for a player starting at a very expensive position to fill.

 

[TJ]

Personally, I think the Browns raped the Colts on this deal.

Time will tell on the lopsidedness of the deal. IMO, there's only one RB in the entire league worth a 1st round pick (hint: we could've drafted him instead of Levi ). Trent has the potential to become one of the top backs in the league if he can overcome the injury bug, but a career 3.6 YPC is not worth a 1st round pick.

The team wasn't going anywhere with Trent to begin with, so why not try and build for the future. Then again, Cleveland has gone into the draft with several picks in the Top 100 the past few years and have come up empty.

 

[sunsfan88]

How did Roger Goodell not veto it?

 

[Shane]

How did Roger Goodell not veto it?

Why would he?

 

[Phrazbit]

How did Roger Goodell not veto it?

I dont think the Colts trading a first for a running back who so far cant sniff 4 yards per carry is going to throw off the competitive balance of the league.

 

[Phrazbit]

What a disaster the 2012 draft was for the Browns. They foolishly trade from 4th pick to the 3rd pick after buying Minnesota's BS, losing a 4th, 5th and 7th round pick in the process. They also had the #22 pick, drafted a 47 year old rookie, who, no shock, sucks out loud. They're so desperate to replace Weeden with an actual QB prospect that they've dumped Richardson to tank the season.

 

[sunsfan88]

I dont think the Colts trading a first for a running back who so far cant sniff 4 yards per carry is going to throw off the competitive balance of the league.

I don think Adrian Peterson could have had 1,000 yards in the Browns offense. That's how pathetic their system is.

And to fix it they hired Norv....as a Charger fan I can only laugh.

I know Browns fans are pissed and would have appreciated Goodell doing something to stop the Colts from ripping off the mentally challenged Cleveland FO.

 

[Totally_Red]

Decent trade for the Colts. Shows Browns aren't in 'win now' mode.

Very discouraging move for Browns fans. If the front office doesn't think they can win THIS year, why should Browns fans buy tickets?

 

[Southpaw]

Sounds as if the Browns have a plan. The previous regime over drafted (?) for Richardson. It is probable that the 2014 NFL draft will not have a RB taken in the 1st round. They got back some of that with the Colts 1st next year. Now they have 2 1sts, 2 seconds , which means 7 picks in the first 4 rounds.

Jim Irsay probably orchestrated this one, given his bleats this week.