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While I'm willing to give some slack to Chip Kelly in that he doesn't have "his" guys in place to run his system, it was his choice to start a true freshman who looks way in over his head. Not sure what the recruiting has been like for UCLA but I'd imagine it's at least decent. To get blown out of the water like this 3 games in a row makes me think that whatever magic Kelly had is gone. I was looking forward to some exciting Oregon-like football out of UCLA but they're not even close to Kelly's old teams and I doubt the talent level is that far different.
 

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0-3 and not competitive. Pretty remarkable that they won 6 games last year but now we know why. Sorry @Russ Smith

I'm not nearly the UCLA football fan that I am in basketball but I am not at all surprised and I've been the outlier on UCLA boards saying I wasn't overly thrilled with hiriing Chip Kelly. Mora didn't leave a ton of talent, and so far recruiting has been meh, he seems to be focusing on guys he considers gems, we'll see if he's good at that or not but he's not landing tons of elite talent like people thought he would. My concern is and always has been his history is simple, see rules, break rules. He's done it in college and he did it in the NFL. In some ways the early recruiting is a good sign that he's probably NOT breaking rules at UCLA, but if it doesn't pan out, my guess is he'll default to cheating again. Guys that age at that level don't tend to turn around their way of thinking IMO.

So not really surprised they're not that good at all, the not being competitive at all is tough if you've watched any of the games, I didn't see any last night, but in the first 2 they just aren't that talented. They're a fairly young team playing a very tough schedule and they're getting their butts kicked

A little research to back up the youth comment I made, UCLA is the 4th youngest team in the entire country, now the first loss to Cincinnati, they were even younger than UCLA, but not on the OL which is the biggest problem UCLA has on offense. Apparently from the boxscore UCLA played a ton of freshmen yesterday at least 2 freshmen RB's maybe 3, and several more on defense.

They have some talent, Wilson and Howard are NFL prospects on offense, on defense Darnay Holmes has an NFL future, I'm still not convinced Jaelan Phillips isn't overrated but he certainly has the physical makeup if he can get stronger, but my money he plays too upright and gets overpowered as a result.

Just not enough talent on the roster and the 19 recruiting class is ranked something like 90th in the country
 
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While I'm willing to give some slack to Chip Kelly in that he doesn't have "his" guys in place to run his system, it was his choice to start a true freshman who looks way in over his head. Not sure what the recruiting has been like for UCLA but I'd imagine it's at least decent. To get blown out of the water like this 3 games in a row makes me think that whatever magic Kelly had is gone. I was looking forward to some exciting Oregon-like football out of UCLA but they're not even close to Kelly's old teams and I doubt the talent level is that far different.

To be fair it wasn't his choice to start the freshman, Speight the transfer was the starter but he hurt his back. The freshman is clearly not ready and they really aren't running the Oregon system yet mostly IMO because he didn't think he had a QB who was ready to run it.
 

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You know things are bad when you have your team running conditioning drills before the game is over!

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kelly-runs-team-conditioning-drill-ucla-loss-142937524.html

Here's the direct twitter video from the page

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Yeah that looks like a coach who's trying to weed out people who are not "his guys." It would have worked better a few years ago, the bloom is off the rose with Kelly now he didn't finish well in the NFL, so I think he might lose some guys he doesn't want to lose.

Rosen apparently is a big Kelly fan, he's even said he strongly considered staying just to play for kelly, but I suspect he's just being a good Bruin and was trying to help them recruit by saying that, I can't believe he even remotely considered playing behind this OL.
 

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ucla has not had much real talent for several years...part of the reason Rosen was so impressive
 

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I'm reserving judgment until next year. Like Herm & Sumlin, Kelly didn't have a full season to recruit so next year should be his first year with his guys plus he didn't exactly inherit a Pac-12 contender from last year.

Recruiting shift has swung to UW, they are school now landing ARZ's top HS recruits after it was USC & UCLA for many years.
 

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As bad as the Cards are UCLA might be worse. the freshman QB's dad went on Twitter and repeatedly attacked Chip Kelly's coaching, said he and his son were "duped" by UCLA and Kelly etc. Said the reason the practices are closed is they're hiding the incompetence of the coaches. said Kelly must not have called plays at Oregon etc.

I'm no Chip Kelly fan but what a terrible look for the dad and it's not going to help his son at all.
 
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