Pace a Jet: $22M Guaranteed Reasons

[AsUdUdE]

To begin with, your stats are wrong.

I am not here to fight with you. I have one point of view and you have another. IMO Pace was better than Hayes or Dansby. I factor in that Pace played all 16 games as plus for him and a minus for Dansby. For some strange reason I think most coaches like guys who play all 16 games. Had Dansby played all 16 I am sure he would have clearly better stats but he didn't so he doesn't. Dansby has more picks, because his position requires him to drop back into coverage more than the other two. Pace had more sacks and TCKFL because he plays SSOLB. Its not apples to oranges, but more like tangerines to clementimes.

I have MUCH respect for anyone who can accurately use the words Tangerines to clementimes when talking professional football...

I disagree about the subject, but major props for creativity....

 

[cardsfanmd]

How so?

Those are not the same as the stats offered by the team or the NFL.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I have MUCH respect for anyone who can accurately use the words Tangerines to clementimes when talking professional football...

I disagree about the subject, but major props for creativity....

 

[Stout]

Talk about revisionist BS.

Nobody here hated KVB, just the reverse in fact. The only reason he was let go was that he couldn't stay healthy.

That he has managed to do so since leaving is good for him but says nothing about his play. While he was here he was pretty good ... when healthy enough to play.

Exactly! A white defensive end who didn't have killer speed...heck, I was watching me out there! Sans the knee injuries, of course.

 

[BigRedMO]

A weak defense gets weaker. The team is on the verge of being good and it goes backwards. Just like 1999. Not sure if Pace is worth the money paid . All I see is another hole on defense.

All this money tied up in a WR due to an organization that planned incorrectly on Fitzgerald renegotiating. Fitzgerald is not worth the money due to him. It is obvious to me Fitzgerald's motivation is the money and not winning. So Bidwill gets what he wants. He gets close to being a good team. Just close enough to inspire enthusiasm and then backs off. My definition of a tease.

Just further confirms my desire not to draft a RB. This team will suck without major effort on fixing the defense. It will not matter what kind of year Fitzgerald, Boldin or any RB would have.

 

[DaisyCutter]

The Cards didnt want him. No matter how much smoke Graves blows up our collective asses, I can tell you a contract offer wasnt made since late Nov/early Dec and since then only the slightest of talks occurred between Pace's agent (Pat Dye) and Graves.

Urban reported in his blog that "mid-season" the Cards talked to Pace about a deal equivalent to what Dockett and Hayes were given. Considering the season that Pace was having, and the rapid escalation in the salary cap, it's hard to blame Pace for saying "thanks, but no thanks."

Hayes was given his deal when he'd never completed a season as a starter. Dockett at the time was playing on a third-round contract and coming off a terrible 2005 season. Both guys are relative bargains now.

 

[Shane]

Those are not the same as the stats offered by the team or the NFL.

Interesting. Those stats came from ESPN's website. I just checked them against NFL.com and they match perfectly other then the fact that the tackle #s are off by one whopping tackle????

 

[RonF]

Why is it that we Card fans suffer sticker price shock when it comes to determining the value of our players? How many guys have we lost because we thought they're not worth paying them what other teams were willing to offer? I sure hope we're not thinking Ford in a BMW world. Boy! talk about overusing cliches.