Packers Game Preview

[WisconsinCard]

LOL hopefully your subconscious is a better prognosticator than mine!

Speaking of prognostication... My nuggets are silent leading up to this game, not even a hit. Guess they are avoiding spoilers. I have no idea what is going to happen. The suspense is killing me. This is going to be a very long 18 hours.

I just looked a dollar bill and printed om the back is "in Bert's nuggets we trust".

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Can we get the announcers from tonight's game on NFL network? I know we can't but it would make watching the game a better experience.

These guys are so much better than some of the guys we have been getting.

 

[Bert]

Can we get the announcers from tonight's game on NFL network? I know we can't but it would make watching the game a better experience.

These guys are so much better than some of the guys we have been getting.

No we will get Aikman so prepare for 3 hours of ARog fanspeak


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[Cheesebeef]

Ok answer me this... I guarantee that there are people going to this game and did not sell their tickets to make a buck... That didn't dig their way into some huge debt to go and support their football team at their first super bowl and THE BIGGEST GAME IN THEIR HISTORY.... Or just pay outright to go even though they could afford it... Yet I know there are people that sold their tickets for this game to make some money but conversely spent in excess of 5,000 to 6,000 dollars to make sure they were at the biggest game in team history(since you like to bring up size of importance of the game to prove your point) including having to call in sick to accommodate it(which costs even more money)??? So how do you quantify "the financial burden for the team" in that case.... Which one is more "diehard" and why??? Why isn't the fan that spent thousands upon thousands and created a huge debt hole to to go and see the biggest game in history "more of a diehard" fan then the guy who just kept his tickets for this game???

Because the guy who still has tickets to this game likely put himself in the same debt to go to the Super Bowl.

And if they didn't, there's a MASSIVE difference between going into serious debt to go to the Super Bowl and not losing anything by going to the game you've already got tickets for. Talk about your false equivalences.

 

[AZ Native]

Because the guy who still has tickets to this game likely put himself in the same debt to go to the Super Bowl.

That's why many SB tickets were returned by Cards fans and there was a second drawing. It got me SB tickets. There were a ton of SB tickets not claimed.

 

[Shane]

Because the guy who still has tickets to this game likely put himself in the same debt to go to the Super Bowl.

And if they didn't, there's a MASSIVE difference between going into serious debt to go to the Super Bowl and not losing anything by going to the game you've already got tickets for. Talk about your false equivalences.

So basically what you're trying to say is it just doesn't fit your agenda got it ....

 

[Cheesebeef]

So basically what you're trying to say is it just doesn't fit your agenda got it ....

What I'm saying is that when the media, coaches, players and fans all think something is a problem, I agree with them.

Concoct whatever scenarios you want Shane, but when our O has to practice a silent count in practice going into the biggest game of the season because they're worried about crowd disruption in their own stadium, that's a problem with our fans.

 

[82CardsGrad]

There is so much ambiguity and unknown about this situation. Nobody really knows how many seats are owned by brokers. And nobody ever really knows how many opposing fans actually show up. It's all emotion and guessing...

It's entirely disingenuous to continue to have this discussion without acknowledging the fact about the demographics here in the valley, where Phoenix possesses a massive population that have moved here from other places, especially states like WI and MN. Coupled with the fact that the Cards have never, ever been a consistent winner and have ONLY been in the valley for less than 30 years... I actually think it's quite amazing that the team has been able to sell out every home game since UoP opened, opposing fans notwithstanding.

All of his hand-wringing about the opposing fans is pointless and totally misguided. It will take many, many more years of consistent winning to eventually thin the herd, and even then, given the demographic dynamics that are entirely unique to Phoenix, there will always be large contingents of opposing fans of the Packers and the Vikes. The actual conversation could be perhaps, what is "large", but even there, we fans will always be guessing...
I've been to roughly 98% of all home games since UoP has opened up. IMHO, I rarely ever felt like the opposing fans were a problem in terms of their presence and their noise. My guess is that the MOST I have ever witnessed is maybe 15,000 fans from Pitt several years ago. I still contend that the number of Vikes fans at the game a few weeks ago totaled no more than 10,000.
For the game this Sunday, knowing that there are already a ton of WI transplants living here in the Valley, and given it's the Christmas and New Year's break, which will only give more reason for WI peeps to travel to the valley for vacation, I could see the number getting as high as 15,000. BUT I DON'T CARE! It is what it is... Win more. Period. And 5-6 years from now, this will be far less of an issue...

What I'm saying is that when the media, coaches, players and fans all think something is a problem, I agree with them.

Concoct whatever scenarios you want Shane, but when our O has to practice a silent count in practice going into the biggest game of the season because they're worried about crowd disruption in their own stadium, that's a problem with our fans.

The problem seems to be you're not grasping many of the underlying facts and realities...

 

[Cheesebeef]

The problem seems to be you're not grasping many of the underlying facts and realities...

The reality you've been saying is it's going to take years to build the fanbase to the point that it won't sell it's tickets, right? Well, that's why RIGHT NOW it's a weak fanbase. And that sucks no matter what the reason is.

 

[juza76]

Our defense use to play better against great qbs..so im confident

This!