Page 2 predicting McGinnis will be fired during the season

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So what'd we EXPECT from him? He's a writer for Jimmy Kimmel Live.

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Don't ya just love the line: trading away Griese and bringing in Plummer is like trading syphillus for VD.
 

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i'm a huge simmons fan ... pretty good article and i look forward to part two tommorrow when he bashes on my seahawks (although you guys did get it kinda rough)
 

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Originally posted by MigratingOsprey
i'm a huge simmons fan ... pretty good article and i look forward to part two tommorrow when he bashes on my seahawks (although you guys did get it kinda rough)

He's right about us though. We suck. Don't pay any attention to the Cardinals. Our receivers are really slow.
 

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heh ... i really like kasper .. was upset that seattle had to cut him last year .. would of made a nice #5 receiver/return man this year .. but they needed help elsewhere due to injuries so he was cut

i hate boldin being a hurricanes fan, but he is pretty decent .. don't know too much about the others

however i do know they are inexperienced and inexperienced WRs usually have a tough time in their first year or until they actually gain experience (i.e. a veteran who was a reserve without many reps now starting)

biggest hole on the cards that i see is in the secondary though

anyhow, simmons is 1/10 analysis, 4/10 comedy and 5/10 rambling about movies, gambling and the good life
 

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I thought it was hilarious actually. I actually like the part when he says that we're going to go 1/15. Now we can prove him wrong.
 

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Why is it that the hacks and pundits get to keep their jobs when they are wrong? Coach Mac will remain with the Cards and Rod Graves will be executive of the year. We should flood ESPN this year with letters demanding the ignorant hacks be fired for such poor performance!
 

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Originally posted by az1965
Some other Cards stuff as well:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/simmons/030904.html

Yeah and the Globe just said that I "RugbyMuffin" will become king of the world in 2004!

I decree that Jerry Jones and Al Davis will have a Hardcore wrestling match to the DEATH at the Halftime of this years Super Bowl!

$5 on Davis!:thumbup:
 

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Part of the reason for the national bias about the Cards is that lazy national writers tend to rely on local beat writers for their info.

Our guy is a cup 3/4 empty guy.

The beat writers in the other 31 NFL cities tend to be homers.

So each week, when the national writers compare the local newspaper articles from all 32 cities, the Cardinals always come out sucking hind tit.

Note - not that John Clayton is "lazy", but he did make a comment on KDUS that he seldom got to AZ, because the flights from west to east were more direct from Seattle than from AZ. I do believe Phoenix is considered off the beaten path for national writers making the trip back and forth from east coast to the midwest to the west coast (& vice versa), so those writers seldom visit here to get the real story.
 

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Say what you want about Simmons, but he hits Mac right on the head with his final comments:

I'll set the scene: We're about 14 minutes into NFL Films's 2002 Yearbook about the Arizona Cardinals, which was already funny enough because it made their 4-1 start seem like the Normandy Invasion, then casually skipped over the fact that they lost nine of their next 10 games. And McGinnis has already been so over-the-top, it almost defies imagination -- it's like he watched Pacino's locker-room speech in "Any Given Sunday," then spent the summer improvising deleted scenes in front of a bathroom mirror (while downing cups of coffee).

So McGinnis is addressing the team after a dramatic 9-6 win over the Cowboys -- an ESPN Instant Classic if there ever was one -- and his cartoid artery is ready to splatter all over the place. Pacing like an absolute maniac, he belts out the following speech:

"What did we expect? (Some grumbling) WHAT DID WE EXPECT??? (Louder grumbling, confusion) We expected it, men. We expected it! And when you expect to win, you earn the right to be there to win. You've earned the right to EXPECT to win. And you've earned much more than that."

Fade to commercial.

Now ...

I'm not sure what any of that means. I'm not sure we'll ever be sure, and if we ever come close to solving the mystery, there will probably be about three bags of marijuana involved. But I can tell you this: During the tail end of the speech, McGinnis walks by one of his players, who's desperately trying not to laugh as his coach belts out the last lines. (Emphasis added)

So was it one of the greatest moments in NFL history? Right up there with Alan Ameche's 1-yard run, the Kellen Winslow Game, Elway's Drive, Vinatieri's Kick, Lynn Swann's Catch and everything else?

Yeah. I think so. But that's just me. When you expect to laugh, you've earned the right to expect to laugh. And sometimes, you've even earned more than that.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: There is a kind of player (the kind that belongs in this league) that doesn't buy into whatever Mac is selling. Most will listen to it and think it's funny, but when losses start to pile up, players listen to Mac with eyes rolling.
 

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Bill Simmons

...when it comes to writing a sports column, with teh refreshing combination of analysis AND comedy, there is no one better than Bill Simmons. Granted, he is certainly not giving the Cards much credit with his prediction of a 1-15 season (and that no Cards WR will start on any fantasy team in the nation all season), if you read his columns consistently you would realize that he can be freakishly accurate at times.

That being said, while I think we all realize that some of the players must tune out Coach Mac's elongated proverbs at times, I think the overwhelming majority do "buy" into his enthusiasm and overall gumption.

This team has much more heart (and talent) than the vastly myopic media (and their 1-15/3-13 predictions) gives them credit for and will prove this fact beginning on Sunday. Go Cards!

Dylan
 

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