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[Arizona's Finest]

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2nd best post of the thread

 

[Matt L]

This reminds me of the old comedy question & answer: "How's your wife?" (Compared to who)?

Skelton, Kolb and Bartell are our guys. There's no guarantee that anyone better will be available via the draft or open market.

That plus the fact of life that our guys appear to have less tiime to get rid of the ball than any new guys we might bring in have had in their previous lives.

It may sound like a cop-out, but I'd rather spend money and personnel rebuilding our offensive line & using a complete off-season developing our three current guys than I would rolling the dice on any QB not deemed "a sure thing."

I agree with you to an extent. I would keep Skeleton and Kolb, cut Bartel and see if we can sign/draft a 3rd QB and then have them all compete.

 

[kerouac9]

Ughh why do you think they were passing the ball in the first place?

Two man reasons: Beanies hurt. That much is obvious.

And much more importantly they were stacking the box and we were getting 2 yards a pop.

It's never just as simple as "Run the ball more"

See thats what a smart coach does K9. They take what you give them. Like any moron with a headset will tell you JOHN SKELTON is a one read chump. So stack the box, blitz him, and nothing will happen. He won't make you pay. Go watch the tape. They were daring JS to even make a accurate 8 yard throw and he was sailing it over people's head like a drunk Keystone cop. I haven't been that frustrated since.....well last year.

You can't have it both ways. Either John Skelton was the reason that the Bengals got up 20-0, or Whis was doing what he had to do. You know that Skelton is bad in the first half, and yet you allow the opposition to dictate your playcalls?

Would the O (and D) have been better off running three times for 8 yards on each drive of the first half, or playing the way Whis called it?

I'll leave you to decide, because the answer is self-evident.

As for your apologia for Kolb's worst days, I don't know what to tell you. Through the first quarter of the Minnesota game, Kolb was 3 for 11 for 31 yards with a fumble lost and an INT.

Do you really want to split hairs between who was worse? Kolb is the captain of the one play drive that immediately puts the defense out on the field.

 

[Russ Smith]

You can't have it both ways. Either John Skelton was the reason that the Bengals got up 20-0, or Whis was doing what he had to do. You know that Skelton is bad in the first half, and yet you allow the opposition to dictate your playcalls?

Would the O (and D) have been better off running three times for 8 yards on each drive of the first half, or playing the way Whis called it?

I'll leave you to decide, because the answer is self-evident.

As for your apologia for Kolb's worst days, I don't know what to tell you. Through the first quarter of the Minnesota game, Kolb was 3 for 11 for 31 yards with a fumble lost and an INT.

Do you really want to split hairs between who was worse? Kolb is the captain of the one play drive that immediately puts the defense out on the field.

So if Whiz spent the entire first half going 3 and out and punting you really think the board and you would be ok with that? We both know that's not true they'd be comparing him to Denny Green's meltdown against Chicago where he kept running up the middle into a stacked defense trying to run the clock out.

It's the NFL, if the other team has 8 in the box and is doubling your star WR, every other NFL coach is going to salivate and say let's throw the ball, Whiz did too, the problem is his QB couldn't make the throws. That's why the announcers told us more than once how mad he was that Skelton was missing the open guys either by not seeing them, or throwing 5 feet over their head.

 

[Shane]

So if Whiz spent the entire first half going 3 and out and punting you really think the board and you would be ok with that? We both know that's not true they'd be comparing him to Denny Green's meltdown against Chicago where he kept running up the middle into a stacked defense trying to run the clock out.

It's the NFL, if the other team has 8 in the box and is doubling your star WR, every other NFL coach is going to salivate and say let's throw the ball, Whiz did too, the problem is his QB couldn't make the throws. That's why the announcers told us more than once how mad he was that Skelton was missing the open guys either by not seeing them, or throwing 5 feet over their head.

 

[Mulli]

So if Whiz spent the entire first half going 3 and out and punting you really think the board and you would be ok with that? We both know that's not true they'd be comparing him to Denny Green's meltdown against Chicago where he kept running up the middle into a stacked defense trying to run the clock out.

It's the NFL, if the other team has 8 in the box and is doubling your star WR, every other NFL coach is going to salivate and say let's throw the ball, Whiz did too, the problem is his QB couldn't make the throws. That's why the announcers told us more than once how mad he was that Skelton was missing the open guys either by not seeing them, or throwing 5 feet over their head.

Bravo!

 

[WisconsinCard]

See thats what a smart coach does K9. They take what you give them. Like any moron with a headset will tell you JOHN SKELTON is a one read chump. So stack the box, blitz him, and nothing will happen. He won't make you pay. Go watch the tape. They were daring JS to even make a accurate 8 yard throw and he was sailing it over people's head like a drunk Keystone cop. I haven't been that frustrated since.....well last year.

I take issue with the bolded part of this post. I sat 11 row up behind the cards bench and focused on JS and watched him, when he had time, go through his progressions. So unless you have watched game type film that had a canera solely focused on JS then I would say your just spitting out what others have said.

I will also say I'll bet everyone wishes we had Andy Dalton yesterday. Well if our D backs could catch he would have thrown three picks too plus the one that came back due to a penatly.

 

[Stout]

I don't know about you guys but I was ROYALLY pissed watching that game. He was playing worse then even the dreaded Derek Anderson last year missing throws that half the peopl on this board could make.

And of course he came back to play well and i knoew he would as i stated in the OP. But that doesn't disqualify the wreck before that. I mean damn he was single handledly the reason the Bengals had 10 points and the defense was on the field the whole first half.

This thread was posted during the ga,e for a reason. And there's also a reason it was quiet during the game. Because NO ONE could justify an NFL QB playing that way. Now of course after the fact all the fans only remember the 4th quarter and look at the overall numbers and say " hey he didn't play THAT bad"

He single handledly lost us the most important game of the season. No way around it.

Through 3 quarters did he look like an NFL backup to you Stout?

Sure, I was pissed too, but to rant and rave about not being good enough to be on an NFL team is just dumb, IMO. Look at his record, look at his positives, and look at all the disadvantages he has had coming into this season. We've been through them ad nauseum, so I won't go through each and every one. Everything from a crap QB coach to coming from Fordham to having very little practice time as a #1 QB, and even less practice time as a #1 or #2 in Training Camps. So, I'll stick by the opinion that I think you're nuts.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Sure, I was pissed too, but to rant and rave about not being good enough to be on an NFL team is just dumb, IMO. Look at his record, look at his positives, and look at all the disadvantages he has had coming into this season. We've been through them ad nauseum, so I won't go through each and every one. Everything from a crap QB coach to coming from Fordham to having very little practice time as a #1 QB, and even less practice time as a #1 or #2 in Training Camps. So, I'll stick by the opinion that I think you're nuts.

I was angry at the time and being extreme. If he played the way he did against 9ers and this past Saturday he WOULD be out of the NFL. But like you mentioned he isn't always that bad.

I will say if he is starting next year or really any time in near future without getting a TON better we are in trouble. He's a fair backup for his career IMHO.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I take issue with the bolded part of this post. I sat 11 row up behind the cards bench and focused on JS and watched him, when he had time, go through his progressions. So unless you have watched game type film that had a canera solely focused on JS then I would say your just spitting out what others have said.

I will also say I'll bet everyone wishes we had Andy Dalton yesterday. Well if our D backs could catch he would have thrown three picks too plus the one that came back due to a penatly.

I've watched him ALOT and multiple replays. He locks down on guys worse then any Cards QB in recent memory. Proof is in the tape.

Vic Fangio said as much to the announcers and they relayed during the telecast of the first 49ers game. That's the M.O. On him. Take away his first read and your all good.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

So if Whiz spent the entire first half going 3 and out and punting you really think the board and you would be ok with that? We both know that's not true they'd be comparing him to Denny Green's meltdown against Chicago where he kept running up the middle into a stacked defense trying to run the clock out.

It's the NFL, if the other team has 8 in the box and is doubling your star WR, every other NFL coach is going to salivate and say let's throw the ball, Whiz did too, the problem is his QB couldn't make the throws. That's why the announcers told us more than once how mad he was that Skelton was missing the open guys either by not seeing them, or throwing 5 feet over their head.

Beautiful.

 

[Evil Ash]

So if Whiz spent the entire first half going 3 and out and punting you really think the board and you would be ok with that? We both know that's not true they'd be comparing him to Denny Green's meltdown against Chicago where he kept running up the middle into a stacked defense trying to run the clock out.

It's the NFL, if the other team has 8 in the box and is doubling your star WR, every other NFL coach is going to salivate and say let's throw the ball, Whiz did too, the problem is his QB couldn't make the throws. That's why the announcers told us more than once how mad he was that Skelton was missing the open guys either by not seeing them, or throwing 5 feet over their head.

Skelton had his problems but we can't completely exclude the coaching staff. If your Oline is a known horrible passblocking team, you don't go five wide with no help for the OTs. When you're facing the 31st ranked rush defense, you don't make all of your run plays - shotgun draws (we ran the shotgun draw 12 times in the 1st half against the browns, it got positive yardage twice).

I'm not excusing everything that he did. Not at all. There are some errors that can be attributed to mechancial errors, some are just that of a young QB, some are things that he has no control of (scheme, personnel, etc).

This board often goes overboard in its evaluation of young QBs. They want a developmental QB that doesn't have to develop. Will be one of the most accurate QBs in the league, and plays mistake free. Hell Peyton Manning couldn't live up to these standards as he averaged 2 turnovers a game his rookie year and threw under 60%.

Is he the QBOTF? I don't know. I see signs of a QB that if he can figure out how to relax and play the rest of the game like he has the 4th qtr than we have a good one. Will he? Give the kid some help in the offseason in both personnel and a chance to actually take place in OTAs before we crucify him.

 

[Duckjake]

Skelton had his problems but we can't completely exclude the coaching staff. If your Oline is a known horrible passblocking team, you don't go five wide with no help for the OTs. When you're facing the 31st ranked rush defense, you don't make all of your run plays - shotgun draws (we ran the shotgun draws 12 times in the 1st half against the browns, it got positive yardage twice)

Excellent point.

Teams aren't stacking the box against the Cards. In fact its the exact opposite. They play 6-7 in coverage and dare the Cards to beat them with the run because they know Arizona won't or can't do it against anyone other than the Rams. Russ Grimm.

Doucet's trip? That also falls squarely on the shoulders of Russ Grimm who in 5 years in Arizona hasn't figured out how to stop allowing edge rushers to come in unblocked. Skelton made a heck of a throw considering he had a defender on him immediately and if the play isn't blown up from the snap Doucet doesn't fall down trying to adjust his route.

We can get different wide receivers, different Offensive Tackles and different QBs but as long as Russ Grimm is coaching the offensive line they won't make a dang bit of difference.

 

[TJ]

So if Whiz spent the entire first half going 3 and out and punting you really think the board and you would be ok with that? We both know that's not true they'd be comparing him to Denny Green's meltdown against Chicago where he kept running up the middle into a stacked defense trying to run the clock out.

It's the NFL, if the other team has 8 in the box and is doubling your star WR, every other NFL coach is going to salivate and say let's throw the ball, Whiz did too, the problem is his QB couldn't make the throws. That's why the announcers told us more than once how mad he was that Skelton was missing the open guys either by not seeing them, or throwing 5 feet over their head.

Good post.

You play the hand you're dealt. If the other team is daring your QB to throw using 8 men in the box, you throw. Most passers in the league would be able to exploit that easily (and a hell of a lot earlier in the game). If Skelton were able to execute those throws in the first quarter at least 50% of the time, the Bengals would have backed off somewhat allowing the offense more diverse play calling. The problem is that Skelton is a one-read, inaccurate QB who is easy to gameplan against. It's hard not to pin the loss squarely on his shoulders because even when he stepped into the pocket (which according to some is his best asset), he still threw behind and over his receivers and telegraphed a few right into the defenders' hands.

I think Skelton has done well this season in proving he is a solid back up in this league. Nothing more, nothing less. If he aspires to become a team's true #1, he needs a lot of work and it may take longer than one more offseason to prove. IMO, many of his misses are Derek Anderson-like, and that is what concerns me the most about any possibility of making him the permanent starter.

 

[Mulli]

Never want to see either Kolb or Skelton play ever again

 

[Evil Ash]

Good post.

You play the hand you're dealt. If the other team is daring your QB to throw using 8 men in the box, you throw. Most passers in the league would be able to exploit that easily (and a hell of a lot earlier in the game). If Skelton were able to execute those throws in the first quarter at least 50% of the time, the Bengals would have backed off somewhat allowing the offense more diverse play calling. The problem is that Skelton is a one-read, inaccurate QB who is easy to gameplan against. It's hard not to pin the loss squarely on his shoulders because even when he stepped into the pocket (which according to some is his best asset), he still threw behind and over his receivers and telegraphed a few right into the defenders' hands.

I think Skelton has done well this season in proving he is a solid back up in this league. Nothing more, nothing less. If he aspires to become a team's true #1, he needs a lot of work and it may take longer than one more offseason to prove. IMO, many of his misses are Derek Anderson-like, and that is what concerns me the most about any possibility of making him the permanent starter.

If he was Derek Anderson like, he wouldn't be accurate in any quarter. He is acccurate in the 4th qtr though and no its that he's playing against the prevent because we're down so badly.

Give him the OTAs to see how he and if he improves thats all I'm saying. Keep in mind that while you bring up the first 49ers game where he was awful, you have completely ignored the 2nd 49er game where hit over 60% and threw 3 TD passes against what will be a 3 loss team.

You have to look at the good and the bad to make a fair evaluation. It seems people on both sides only want to focus on 1 part

 

[Duckjake]

Good post.

You play the hand you're dealt. If the other team is daring your QB to throw using 8 men in the box, you throw. Most passers in the league would be able to exploit that easily (and a hell of a lot earlier in the game). If Skelton were able to execute those throws in the first quarter at least 50% of the time, the Bengals would have backed off somewhat allowing the offense more diverse play calling. The problem is that Skelton is a one-read, inaccurate QB who is easy to gameplan against. It's hard not to pin the loss squarely on his shoulders because even when he stepped into the pocket (which according to some is his best asset), he still threw behind and over his receivers and telegraphed a few right into the defenders' hands.

I think Skelton has done well this season in proving he is a solid back up in this league. Nothing more, nothing less. If he aspires to become a team's true #1, he needs a lot of work and it may take longer than one more offseason to prove. IMO, many of his misses are Derek Anderson-like, and that is what concerns me the most about any possibility of making him the permanent starter.

But the Bengals weren't playing 8 in the box. They were, just like all the other teams we play, in a basic defense. They'd have the same alignment on 1st and 10 or 3rd and 8 except when they'd occasionally have 8 or 9 guys up on the LOS on obvious passing downs.

One thing I see more and more teams doing to the Cards is putting an extra guy outside, run downs or passing downs doesn't matter, who more often than not goes unblocked.

In contrast our guys are almost always tight inside. Very seldom see a Cardinal OLB more than a foot or two off of the OTs outside shoulder.

A puzzling thing I saw in watching the replay is that opposing defensive ends are farther in our backfield than some of our receivers are down field a second or two after the snap. Are the Cards running delayed starts to set up passing progressions or are our WRs just slow off the line?

 

[TJ]

If he was Derek Anderson like, he wouldn't be accurate in any quarter. He is acccurate in the 4th qtr though and no its that he's playing against the prevent because we're down so badly.

Give him the OTAs to see how he and if he improves thats all I'm saying. Keep in mind that while you bring up the first 49ers game where he was awful, you have completely ignored the 2nd 49er game where hit over 60% and threw 3 TD passes against what will be a 3 loss team.

You have to look at the good and the bad to make a fair evaluation. It seems people on both sides only want to focus on 1 part

I never said he was like Anderson, but rather his missed throws are bad as his; way behind and over the intended receiver's head. Even when afforded the time to make a pass and well situated in the pocket, it's no sure thing that the ball will be in the receiver's catching radius.

In addition, my overall analysis of the guy is using all games. I'm not focusing on just one game. As a matter of fact, I never once brought up the first 9er contest. You pinpointed the second game against SF where he had success. Well, what about the two games where the team barely squeaked by an eventual 14 loss Ram team? He Was mediocre the first time around and terrible the next. He shows flashes of great talent, but that's it; just flashes. Skelton is arguably the most inconsistent QB in the game. I'd rather have a guy who can play three or four solid quarters rather than three lousy and one great. Skelton leaves much to be desired in this respect. This is taking the good with the bad, as you stated.

I know what you're saying about OTAs in regards to development, which is fine, but what's the likeliness he will become the consistent QB we need? Can he truly beat out a healthy Kolb for the starting job next offseason? These are honest questions and concerns Everyone who loves Skelton should have. Because from what I gather, the inconsistency is not going to be tolerated by coach Whiz. Moreover, I've been very fair with the guy. I loved the draft pick at the time and was one of the people who said Skelton has traits like Roethlisberger. But what he has displayed over the course of the last two months is bipolar football.

Again, for now he is a nice reserve QB to have, and many teams would like a guy like Skelton on their roster. He just may be further behind the curve than people want to admit.

 

[THESMEL]

Good rookie season record wise, yea He's young but he aint junk!

 

[LarryStalling]

Wouldn't every team like to have a qb that plays solidly for four quarters? Most fans just dream about that.

 

[kerouac9]

So if Whiz spent the entire first half going 3 and out and punting you really think the board and you would be ok with that? We both know that's not true they'd be comparing him to Denny Green's meltdown against Chicago where he kept running up the middle into a stacked defense trying to run the clock out.

It's the NFL, if the other team has 8 in the box and is doubling your star WR, every other NFL coach is going to salivate and say let's throw the ball, Whiz did too, the problem is his QB couldn't make the throws. That's why the announcers told us more than once how mad he was that Skelton was missing the open guys either by not seeing them, or throwing 5 feet over their head.

I can't speak for the rest of the board, but I would've been fine with it because (1) I think it'd work, and (2) because that appeals to my football aesthetics. The 1997 Arizona Cardinals might have lead me to pay extra attention to the NFL, but the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the late 90s and early 00s were what caused me to fall in love with the game. Send Mike Alstott and Warrick Dunn into the line of scrimmage over and over, and then let your defense make some plays. I still think we can play that brand of football with this team.

The Cards started the game calling 1 run and three consecutive passes: 6 yard gain, 12 yard reception, sack, INT. Would the Cards have been better off feeding the ball to Beanie and then punting the ball? Even with Dave Zastudil punting like he was nursing a hangover, the Bengals wouldn't have gotten the ball at our 23.

Second drive: 2 runs, 1 pass. 6 yard game, one yard gain, sack, punt. What is the strategic advantage in calling passes here?

If you have a good QB, I understand that you have a strategic advantage. But does anyone here think that we have a good QB?!?! ANYONE?!

Do you think that the Jacksonville Jaguars don't see a lot of 8-man fronts? Counting sacks, they have 25 more passing attempts on the season than rushing attempts.

Do you think that the Minnesota Vikings don't see a lot of 8-man fronts? Counting sacks, they have 90 more passing attempts than rushing attempts on the season.

The Cards have 285 more passing attempts (602 including sacks and scambles) than rushing attempts (317) on the year!! And they don't have Adrian Peterson and Maurice Jones-Drew keeping defensive coordinators up at night? Do you really think we see more 8 man fronts than those guys?

And it's not like we're getting blown out and have to pass over and over to stay in games. 12 of our 15 games have been decided by a touchdown or less!

There is a template for this. Matt Ryan's rookie year the Atlanta Falcons rushed 560 times and passed 468 times, including sacks. Whis knows this: the 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers were breaking in a quarterback from a small school and rushed the ball 549 times against just 426 passing attempts (including sacks).

The Cards don't have to be THAT extreme, but the last three games the Cards have called:

SF: 11 rushes, 37 passes (counting 6 Skelton scrambles and 2 sacks)
CLE: 20 rushes, 52 passes (counting 2 Skelton scrambles and 4 sacks)
@CIN: 14 rushes, 53 passes(!!!) (counting 4 Skelton scrambles and 5 sacks)
Total: 45 rushes, 192 passes

If you think that the smart football move with John Skelton under center is to pass the ball 81-plus percent of the time, or that we're seeing eight in the box four out of five plays, then there's no reason to keep talking. One of us just doesn't get football.

Otherwise, you can take the TJ approach and imply that Whis is just making sure that we all understand that John Skelton can't implement an NFL offense.

 

[Evil Ash]

I never said he was like Anderson, but rather his missed throws are bad as his; way behind and over the intended receiver's head. Even when afforded the time to make a pass and well situated in the pocket, it's no sure thing that the ball will be in the receiver's catching radius.

In addition, my overall analysis of the guy is using all games. I'm not focusing on just one game. As a matter of fact, I never once brought up the first 9er contest. You pinpointed the second game against SF where he had success. Well, what about the two games where the team barely squeaked by an eventual 14 loss Ram team? He Was mediocre the first time around and terrible the next. He shows flashes of great talent, but that's it; just flashes. Skelton is arguably the most inconsistent QB in the game. I'd rather have a guy who can play three or four solid quarters rather than three lousy and one great. Skelton leaves much to be desired in this respect. This is taking the good with the bad, as you stated.

I know what you're saying about OTAs in regards to development, which is fine, but what's the likeliness he will become the consistent QB we need? Can he truly beat out a healthy Kolb for the starting job next offseason?

Depends on alot of things. What is causing his inaccuracy? Is it mechanics? Is he just thinking about everything too much until the 4th when he just does his thing? If its is do we have the coaching staff to help him fix it? Is the gameplan causing problems? Is it the personnel? Will Kolb ever be healthy again?

The weird thing is that Skelton seems to be consistent in his inconsistency. He's always plays well in the 4th qtr. His rating in the 4th qtr is borderline ridiculous but his 1st half play is often attrocious. Its not the Plummer situation where he just looked good often times because other teams went into prevent. We were typically in these games due to great D and special teams play but then suddenly the light comes on for him and he plays great. The question is: why just then?

These are honest questions and concerns Everyone who loves Skelton should have. Because from what I gather, the inconsistency is not going to be tolerated by coach Whiz. Moreover, I've been very fair with the guy. I loved the draft pick at the time and was one of the people who said Skelton has traits like Roethlisberger. But what he has displayed over the course of the last two months is bipolar football.

Bipolar football is typical of very young QBs - thats the point. They look bad at times. They look good at times. They're still in an adjustment period that is not simple. NFL offenses can be extremely complex and the margin for error changes from college (yards) to the pros (inches). There's a big difference between the bad games from Cam Newton and that of his good ones but from an outside perspective the bad ones are rarely brought up at all.

You also have to take into account other aspects as I have brought up before. How do you go through read progressions when your line doesn't block? How is the playcalling? Have the coaches adjusted the gameplan to the players that they have around them? If you're trying to make any other QB to run the exact same system as Warner without a large chunk of the personnel, that would cause a problem wouldn't it?

Again, for now he is a nice reserve QB to have, and many teams would like a guy like Skelton on their roster. He just may be further behind the curve than people want to admit.

This may also be a possibility. We won't know until he gets a full offseason under his belt and has a chance to take the starting position away. Thats what I'm saying.

If he develops ahead of time - awesome. If not then we at least have a good backup on the roster. So can we please just calm down the "we need to get him off the roster" crap please?

 

[Stout]

I was angry at the time and being extreme. If he played the way he did against 9ers and this past Saturday he WOULD be out of the NFL. But like you mentioned he isn't always that bad.

I will say if he is starting next year or really any time in near future without getting a TON better we are in trouble. He's a fair backup for his career IMHO.

Given time to develop, I am confident he will be solid. If he doesn't develop? He shouldn't be starting.

 

[Totally_Red]

IMO, the Bengal loss is squarely on John Skelton. Not the coaching staff. Not Early Doucet. Not the offensive line. Not on the lousy kickoff return game.

Skelton's interceptions and horrible decision-making early on dug a hole too deep to climb out of. He's done it repeatedly this season with his Jeckyl and Hyde performances. It is extremely exasperating.

You just can't make as many bad decisions and poor throws as JS does and play quarterback in the National Football League. It is as simple as that.

 

[Paso Fino]

Some people think Skelton is terrible. Others think he can be very good.
Whatever his potential may be, it will not be reached with the Cardinals for several reasons.
First, he does not have the adequate support from the coach. Drew Brees gives a great deal of credit for his success to Sean Payton who gave him full support when Brees came from the Chargers where he had struggled. People scoffed at Carolina for drafting Cam Newton number one. But they started him from day one, tolerated his bad throws and watched him develop into what will be a superstar. Tebow may or not ever be good. But if he is not, it will not be because of lack of support from Elway. By contrast, Whiz went to Skelton last year as the last resort after struggling with Anderson and Hall. Similarly, Skelton only started this year because of Kolb’s injuries. Moreover on more than one occasion Whiz has singled out Skelton for criticism after a loss – something which, as Mitch has pointed out, a coach should not do.
Second, the Cardinals offensive line continues to be far from adequate and there are no signs this will change. This is a huge problem for any quarterback, let alone a young quarterback.
Third, the Cardinals play calling is not conducive to success. Instead of having a game plan that fits the team’s players, the Cardinals have what they think is a good game plan and try to get it to work with the players they have.
Given the quarterback situation in the NFL, it’s entirely possible the Cardinals could get at least a fifth round draft choice for Skelton. They should try to trade him. I am not saying that Skelton would ever be as good as Brees or Newton. But if he stays with the Cardinals we will never know how good he will be. If he stays with the Cardinals he will continue to be erratic and draw criticism from posters here and his coach.