Yep.
Panthers-21 Cards-28: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
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Yep.
They didn't like the defensive alignment - that was right in front of us and from early on, Kerry signaled to Ken to call a TO, and they waited to see what the Panthers would look like on O. It was SOO loud in there, the refs couldn't hear Ken as he was walking toward them - PP started freaking out calling TO and so was Ken and the refs got it in (just as Cam started freaking out calling TO too, because the clock was running down.) It was kind of surreal - I didn't think we'd get the TO called because Ken couldn't get the ref's attention, then I look over and Cam is frantically calling TO too.
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Man, I was going to steal this meme for myself. Beat me to it.
I totally agree that Washington was excellent today. A huge playmaker.
I was really interested in the run defense. I don't know if that's because we're actually good at stuffing the run for some reason, or if guys were just being extra gap-disciplined in order to contain the possible rushing threat of Cam. We'll see in a couple weeks.
This is what an unsound defense looks like. No one anywhere near the receiver. Hopefully Horton learns from his mistakes, because this was awful.
Krangodnzr
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Urban saw what I saw, and he said the sack credited to Porter should've been credited to Washington.
I saw Washington in on at least 2 sacks, but he was only credited with .5.
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He should've had a sack and a half, with the other half sack going to Schofield.
It was interesting that Bradley didn't even get on the field when Washington got injured.
Cam Newton certainly seems like the real deal. Good golly. And Joey Porter is totally finished. He had his arms wrapped around Cam and when nothing happened he just kind of stood there.
I pretty much agree with everything except for the last one.
Game Plan/Adjustments:
The Cardinals moved the ball pretty well against Carolina. They just made stupid mistakes. Fumbled pitch on the 4 yard line. Missed field goal.
On Defense they really struggled to generate a pass rush early on. However I thought Horton made some good half time adjustments and started harassing Newton more in the second half.
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perivolaki
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True!
I also noticed that his backup David Carter was almost unblockable when he came in. He was really getting penetration.
Nice pickup late in the draft.
I don't know why Porter is still in there. He is a shell of his former pass rusher self and a liability at defending the run.
Yep Dan was doing a great job of controlling the line and clogging the middle. I think that is why we saw such a good game from Washington.
Kudos to both.
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Schofield looked good... hopefully he'll get more and more reps if the trend continues. Porter had a couple of good plays, but lacks a consistent burst at this point.
Thats true and from what I saw Washington should have had a sack and a half himself. Was robbed out of those and an INT. Should win NFC defensive player of the week if he had that stat line.
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One other good thing: The fans/Darnell Dockett. I think that Jeff Otah (who is no slouch) had two or three false starts today. Some of them were crowd noise, but some of them were when the stadium was (relatively) quiet. Somehow I think that Darnell got deep into his head.
Also: we successfully defended a halfback screen! Great work, guys!
Also: we successfully defended a halfback screen! Great work, guys!
Chopper0080
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I agree with this. Our game planning and adjustments were pretty good today. We stopped the run game, and put the ball in Cam's hand. We didn't panic on offense, stayed balanced, and moved the ball pretty well.
The pass to Fitz in the 4th Q was a great call by the way.
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But there were no adjustments in the first half. And pretty much all game long Newton ate us alive until the last half of the 4th quarter. And even then it took a great stop to secure the win. And, yes, the pass to Fitz was a good one, however, what happened in the plays directly afterward? Run into the line, run to the outside, incomplete pass. The entire planet saw each and every one of those plays coming. And all we had to do is pick up a first down. And not one slant IIRC.
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What adjustments did you expect? Its all about personnel and we don't have the personnel to get the necessary pressure consistently. What adjustment would you have made to keep Cam from air mailing it everywhere?
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I thought we had a very nice defensive play in the front 7. We did a nice job holding off the runs, stopping the scrambles, we applied pressure (though inconsistantly)... the secondary play was awful however. Ridiculously so.
It appeared to me that after the blown coverage where somehow Rhodes got underneath the deep receiver and we gave up a long touch down early (I think it was the Steve Smith TD, though it could have been the second one to #11), it seemed adrian wilson was playing the deep man and Rhodes started playing nearer the box. Did anyone else notice that?
It appeared to me that after the blown coverage where somehow Rhodes got underneath the deep receiver and we gave up a long touch down early (I think it was the Steve Smith TD, though it could have been the second one to #11), it seemed adrian wilson was playing the deep man and Rhodes started playing nearer the box. Did anyone else notice that?
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Where was Stewart Bradley? I've heard talk of moving him to the outside. I'd to see him along with Schofield replace Porter and Haggans.
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What adjustment? Well for starters, stop blitzing every play. Then focus on coverage. The reason why he was so successful because we had single man coverage most of the time. And I'm don't mean stop blitzing. We were blitzing on nearly every play and it was a disaster.
So instead of blitzing you would rather just give the kid about 8 seconds to throw and thus giving him the time to find the open guy anyway and shredding us apart.
Any expert has always said you give any NFL QB enough time and they will rip you apart. No CB can cover WR's long enough. Either way same result.
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Adrian Wilson admitted after the game that he blew the assignment on that play. Wilson was supposed to be deep.
Which one the first Smith TD?
Drop D
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Cornerback Patrick Peterson, a rookie, was beaten for one touchdown, but a mistake by strong safety Adrian Wilson resulted in Smith's 77-yard touchdown.
Peterson blitzed, and apparently Wilson was supposed to be playing behind safety Kerry Rhodes.
"That was me, I got a little bit nosy," said Wilson, who declined to give more details.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/car...rolina-panthers-cam-newton.html#ixzz1XiZ4mSLa
Wow! That's convenient. I was going to post the link, but it was automatically added when I pasted the quote. Will the wonders of technology ever cease?
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THE GOOD:
W - don't care how we got it. It's a W.
Kolb - 300 yards, 1 touchdown, that BEAUTIFUL deep play to Fitz, the scramble 47 yard TD to King. Kid looks like a legit NFL starter. He'll have some bumps in the road, but I think he's got good tools and just needs some experience.
Darryl Washington - HOLY ****. That might have been the best game I've ever seen a Cardinals LBer have.
Peterson the Punt Returner - He's gonna be the scariest special teamer since Devin Hester. He's the first guy we've had back there that is just a NATURAL, from the way he catches the ball, to the way he exploded on his return.
Beanie's first half - Looked like a beast, driving the pile forward, churning for extra yards.
TE - 100 yards combined for the TE? Awesome.
Doucet - Great drive and burst on the TD
Run D - Dan Williams was just blowing **** up.
THE BAD:
The O-line in pass protection - not terrible, but not good and Levi Brown was just putrid in the first half.
Feely - misses a relative chippie, did okay on KO.
Beanie's fumble/inability to cut back - kid just doesn't have that move and seemed to dance in the second half.
THE UGLY:
Secondary + Terrible OLB - Could be the worst combination of pass rushers and pass defenders in the history of the Cardinals. I mean... holy underwear Batman. The Panthers had no off-season, a completely new coaching staff and a rookie who no one thought was really ready to throw the ball and he leads their offense to 500 yards and within 2 yards of pushing us to OT? Sorry guys, while Cam has talent, he's NOWHERE NEAR good enough to put up stats half that good against any defense worth a lick of salt.
And yes, there's only one UGLY spot here, but it's a HUGE one and unfortunately will be for the duration of the season. I think Peterson will eventually be an overall mega-stud, but it ain't gonna be this season and everyone else... well... the less said the better IMO.
Overall, an absolute rollercoaster of a game and just a good old time at the stadium and well worth the flight out this morning and flight back to Cali tonight.
Bring on the Skins.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go pick up Rex Grossman for my fantasy team next week.
W - don't care how we got it. It's a W.
Kolb - 300 yards, 1 touchdown, that BEAUTIFUL deep play to Fitz, the scramble 47 yard TD to King. Kid looks like a legit NFL starter. He'll have some bumps in the road, but I think he's got good tools and just needs some experience.
Darryl Washington - HOLY ****. That might have been the best game I've ever seen a Cardinals LBer have.
Peterson the Punt Returner - He's gonna be the scariest special teamer since Devin Hester. He's the first guy we've had back there that is just a NATURAL, from the way he catches the ball, to the way he exploded on his return.
Beanie's first half - Looked like a beast, driving the pile forward, churning for extra yards.
TE - 100 yards combined for the TE? Awesome.
Doucet - Great drive and burst on the TD
Run D - Dan Williams was just blowing **** up.
THE BAD:
The O-line in pass protection - not terrible, but not good and Levi Brown was just putrid in the first half.
Feely - misses a relative chippie, did okay on KO.
Beanie's fumble/inability to cut back - kid just doesn't have that move and seemed to dance in the second half.
THE UGLY:
Secondary + Terrible OLB - Could be the worst combination of pass rushers and pass defenders in the history of the Cardinals. I mean... holy underwear Batman. The Panthers had no off-season, a completely new coaching staff and a rookie who no one thought was really ready to throw the ball and he leads their offense to 500 yards and within 2 yards of pushing us to OT? Sorry guys, while Cam has talent, he's NOWHERE NEAR good enough to put up stats half that good against any defense worth a lick of salt.
And yes, there's only one UGLY spot here, but it's a HUGE one and unfortunately will be for the duration of the season. I think Peterson will eventually be an overall mega-stud, but it ain't gonna be this season and everyone else... well... the less said the better IMO.
Overall, an absolute rollercoaster of a game and just a good old time at the stadium and well worth the flight out this morning and flight back to Cali tonight.
Bring on the Skins.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go pick up Rex Grossman for my fantasy team next week.
