Pariah's 2008 Mock v.1 (complete 1st round and entire Cards)

[Pariah]

I didn't spend a lot of time on this one, but here goes....

Complete Round 1
1. Miami Dolphins - Chris Long (DE) Virginia
2. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long (OT) Michigan
3. Atlanta Falcons - Darren McFadden (RB) Arkansas
4. Oakland Raiders - Glenn Dorsey (DT) LSU
5. Kansas City Chiefs - Dan Connor (LB) Penn State
6. New York Jets - Vernon Gholston (DE/OLB) Ohio State
7. New England Patriots (from San Francisco) - Ryan Clady (OT) Boise State
8. Baltimore Ravens - Matt Ryan (QB) Boston College
9. Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis (DT) USC
10. New Orleans Saints - Keith Rivers (OLB) USC
11. Buffalo Bills - Mike Jenkins (CB) South Florida
12. Denver Broncos - Jeff Otah (OT) Pittsburgh
13. Carolina Panthers - Malcolm Kelly (WR) Oklahoma
14. Chicago Bears - Rashard Mendenhall (RB) Illinois
15. Detroit Lions - Kenny Philips (S) Miami Fl
16. Arizona Cardinals - Quentin Groves (DE/OLB) Auburn
17. Minnesota Vikings - Brian Brohm (QB) Louisville
18. Houston Texans - Jonathan Stewart (RB) Oregon
19. Philadelphia Eagles - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (CB) Tennesse St
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DeSean Jackson (WR) Cal
21. Washington Redskins - Aqib Talib (CB) Kansas
22. Dallas Cowboys (From Cleveland) - Early Doucet (WR) LSU
23. Pittsburgh Steelers - Patrick Sims (DT) Auburn
24. Tennessee Titans - Leodis McKelvin (CB) Troy
25. Seattle Seahawks - Felix Jones (RB) Arkansas
26. Jacksonville Jaguars - Antoine Cason (CB) Arizona
27. San Diego Chargers - Sam Baker (OT) USC
28. Dallas Cowboys - Derrick Harvey (DE/OLB) Florida
29. San Francisco 49ers (From Indy) - Kentwan Balmer (DL) North Carolina
30. Green Bay Packers - Fred Davis (TE) USC
31. New York Giants – Leodis McKelvin (CB) Troy
32. New England Patriots - cheaters

Cardinals’ Mock

1. DE/OLB Q. Groves
2. RB Kevin Smith
3. CB Terrell Thomas
4. P Durrant Brooks
5. WR Eddie Royal
6. DE/OLB Titus Brown
7. T King Dunlap

 

[joeshmo]

Flip flop Harvery and Groves and it looks decent.

I to think the Longs go 1 and 2, in what order I do not know.

 

[Pariah]

Flip flop Harvery and Groves and it looks decent.

That's what I had originally. I went back and forth on it. Ultimately, I think Groves' agent will be able to pump his client's stock based on his fast combine times.

 

[HoodieBets]

No way mcfadden goes to the falcons, they already have a guy just like that in norwood and Connor dosent go before Gholston. Im not a big groves fan ill take DRC instead. Like the rest though

 

[Pariah]

No way mcfadden goes to the falcons, they already have a guy just like that in norwood and Connor dosent go before Gholston. Im not a big groves fan ill take DRC instead. Like the rest though

Norword is hurt a lot. Can't carry the load, and Dunn is old.

I'm not sure Gholston is a good fit for every defense, Connor could be better for some of those teams at the top.

JMHO

 

[HoodieBets]

Norword is hurt a lot. Can't carry the load, and Dunn is old.

I'm not sure Gholston is a good fit for every defense, Connor could be better for some of those teams at the top.

JMHO

He has missed 3 games in 2 years and the flacons already said he will carry the full load since they are talking about cutting Dunn. The ONLY team IMO who will take Connor top 10 is NE, gholston is a DE in a 4-3 and a OLB in a 3-4 and a stud any way you want to look at it, he is the best defensive player in the draft IMO the guy has it all

 

[SuperSpck]

Spot on with the Longs', which makes sense for both teams.

I think the Raiders would be more interested in Ellis over Dorsey. Don't have any reasoning.

Gotta agree that McFadden probably won't land with the Falcons. ATL is pretty stuck with getting a QB. Sorta like the Alex Smith/49ers situation from a few years ago.
To take it a step farther, I wouldn't be shocked to see McFadden fall all the way to the Bears.

I think KC would go O-line and maybe reach for a Clady here vs more defense.

The Broncos usually get light, quick offensive linemen. I didn't think Otah was either of those things.

As important as getting a competent punter has obviously turned out, I'd rather take a chance on CB Jack Ikegwuonu.

In such a good tackle class I hope AZ has reaches again and gets another good Tackle, if a team gets set at the lines...

 

[joeshmo]

That's what I had originally. I went back and forth on it. Ultimately, I think Groves' agent will be able to pump his client's stock based on his fast combine times.

A great you have us falling for an agents hype machine.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I hope it goes like that because there are alot of guys listed who may not even be drafted in round 1.Who knows,they could go round 1 just as easily as not. That means alot more talent available at 50. The guys who i think may not/won't go in round 1 are:
Connor
Phillips
Groves
Brohm
Ducet
Sims
Cason
Baker
Davis

also, i don't think it will happen, but i can't see McKelvin being drafted by Tennessee and the Giants in round 1 .

 

[Pariah]

Version 2

Complete Round 1 v2
1. Miami Dolphins - Chris Long (DE) Virginia
2. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long (OT) Michigan
3. Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan (QB) Boston College
4. Oakland Raiders - Darren McFadden (RB) Arkansas
5. Kansas City Chiefs - Ryan Clady (OT) Boise State
6. New York Jets - Vernon Gholston (DE/OLB) Ohio State
7. New England Patriots (from San Francisco) - Dan Connor (LB) Penn State
8. Baltimore Ravens - Brian Brohm (QB) Louisville
9. Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis (DT) USC
10. New Orleans Saints - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (CB) Tennesse St
11. Buffalo Bills - Jeff Otah (OT) Pittsburgh
12. Denver Broncos - Kenny Philips (S) Miami Fl
13. Carolina Panthers - Malcolm Kelly (WR) Oklahoma
14. Chicago Bears - Rashard Mendenhall (RB) Illinois
15. Detroit Lions - Glenn Dorsey (DT) LSU
16. Arizona Cardinals - Mike Jenkins (CB) South Florida
17. Minnesota Vikings - Keith Rivers (OLB) USC
18. Houston Texans - Aqib Talib (CB) Kansas
19. Philadelphia Eagles - DeSean Jackson (WR) Cal
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Leodis McKelvin (CB) Troy
21. Washington Redskins - Quentin Groves (DE/OLB) Auburn
22. Dallas Cowboys (From Cleveland) - Early Doucet (WR) LSU
23. Pittsburgh Steelers - Sam Baker (OT) USC
24. Tennessee Titans - Antoine Cason (CB) Arizona
25. Seattle Seahawks - Felix Jones (RB) Arkansas
26. Jacksonville Jaguars - Fred Davis (TE) USC
27. San Diego Chargers – Chris Williams (OT) Vanderbilt
28. Dallas Cowboys - Derrick Harvey (DE/OLB) Florida
29. San Francisco 49ers (From Indy) - Patrick Sims (DT) Auburn
30. Green Bay Packers - Kentwan Balmer (DL) North Carolina
31. New England Patriots - cheaters
32. New York Giants – DaJuan Morgan (S) North Carolina State

Cardinals’ Mock

1. CB Mike Jenkins
2. OLB Bruce Davis
3. CB Terrance Wheatly
4. P Durrant Brooks
5. DT/DE Lionel Dotson
6. WR Davone Bess
7. T King Dunlap

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Considering how the draft played out, Jenkins is a good pick there.

We will draft an RB though, probably first day.

 

[Gee!]

19. Philadelphia Eagles - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (CB) Tennesse St
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DeSean Jackson (WR) Cal

I dont think Philly passes on DeSean..

 

[DaisyCutter]

Wow. I think you have Brohm, Connor, and Rogers-Cromartie going far ahead of where they'll actually go. I don't think it's likely that DRC is the first CB off the board. And Phillips was so bad at the Combine that he likely isn't even a first round pick anymore.

Wow. And there's no way Derrick Harvey falls all the way to 28. There are a couple of things that happen in every NFL draft: a run on CBs picks 18-25, a run on WRs picks 15-28, and about 8 DL will go in the first round.

Good effort. I know these take a lot of time, but why would the Jags spend another first rounder on Fred Davis when they still don't really know what they have in Marcedes Lewis?

 

[Pariah]

I dont think Philly passes on DeSean..

Neither do I.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I dont think Philly passes on DeSean..

 

[Gee!]

Neither do I.

Im confused then.. Why do you have them passing on him in your mock?

 

[Pariah]

Wow. I think you have Brohm, Connor, and Rogers-Cromartie going far ahead of where they'll actually go. I don't think it's likely that DRC is the first CB off the board. And Phillips was so bad at the Combine that he likely isn't even a first round pick anymore.

Wow. And there's no way Derrick Harvey falls all the way to 28. There are a couple of things that happen in every NFL draft: a run on CBs picks 18-25, a run on WRs picks 15-28, and about 8 DL will go in the first round.

Good effort. I know these take a lot of time, but why would the Jags spend another first rounder on Fred Davis when they still don't really know what they have in Marcedes Lewis?

I'm guessing DCR's hype only grows between now and the draft. As far as Connor and Brohm, you may be right. Connor just feels like a guy the Pats would go for, and I think the Ravens want to get a guy under center that will define the new era, so they reach a little.

You're absolutely right about Davis/Lewis. I forgot about him. I'll change it in my next iteration for sure. Thanks.

 

[Pariah]

Gee, 82...check the dates of the original post vs the second version post.

 

[Gee!]

Gee, 82...check the dates of the original post vs the second version post.

 

[Stout]

You know, nobody's talking about him going to us, but Keith Rivers might be the guy we snag. A lot of people talk about DEs, but if we draft a DE in the 1st, it will be to convert him to a pass-rushing OLB. Isn't that what Rivers is?

 

[DaisyCutter]

You know, nobody's talking about him going to us, but Keith Rivers might be the guy we snag. A lot of people talk about DEs, but if we draft a DE in the 1st, it will be to convert him to a pass-rushing OLB. Isn't that what Rivers is?

At 6'3", 235, he'd have to play inside in the 3-4, not on the outside. Also, he wasn't outstanding in any of the drills at the Combine. He may have fallen out of the first round altogether.

 

[JeffGollin]

Right now, my board would have Rodgers-Cromartie as BPA followed by Stewart. But I noticed Pariah quickly followed up his original mock with a Version 2.

In Version 2, my current BPA would probably have Stewart and Jenkins closely rated.

But this could all change - some feel Stewart lacks home run potential, and this is what the Card coaches are said to be looking for in a RB. (I noticed he dropped off the edge of the earth on Pariah's Version 2 mock - maybe for the same reason?)

Alert! Alert! Alert! I wrote this before reading the report about Stewart's toe. Scratch him at #16.

Regarding Connors - I'm not sure he has the athleticism to be considered a top 5 - 10 draft pick. I'm not up to speed on his Combine numbers but seem to recall that they weren't all that impressive.(True, production should trump workout scores and guys like that often turn out to be terrific pros, but they seldom get picked that high). Maybe he'll surprise us all on his pro day.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Right now, my board would have Rodgers-Cromartie as BPA followed by Stewart. But I noticed Pariah quickly followed up his original mock with a Version 2.

My current BPA would probably have Stewart at the top followed by Jenkins.

But this could all change - some feel Stewart lacks home run potential, and this is what the Card coaches are said to be looking for. I noticed he dropped off the edge of the earth on Pariah's Version 2 mock - maybe for the same reason?)

Even with Stewart's toe injury, he is still at the top?

 

[JeffGollin]

Even with Stewart's toe injury, he is still at the top?

Yechhh! I just read that post. You beat me back to here. Nope. Scratch Stewart at #16.

 

[joeshmo]

You know, nobody's talking about him going to us, but Keith Rivers might be the guy we snag. A lot of people talk about DEs, but if we draft a DE in the 1st, it will be to convert him to a pass-rushing OLB. Isn't that what Rivers is?

Rivers does everything but rush the passer. Zero sacks last year and only 5.5 in his 4 years all together. That is his one huge galring flaw.