Paul to Lakers

[JCSunsfan]

Stern and Gilbert have essentially taken a wrecking ball to the New Orleans franchise. Instead of getting 3 starters, a backup PG and a draft pick for Paul, they will end up receiving...nothing. How many season tickets do you think the Hornets will sell next season? After this season they should just board up the team offices and go out of business.

No one is going to deal with Demps again because they know he has no real authority to do anything. Stern and the other owners have emasculated him. Why Demps hasn't already resigned is a mystery to me. The league has been essentially wasting his time for the past year.

I think this deal will eventually get done, but with modifications.

 

[slinslin]

Stern and Gilbert have essentially taken a wrecking ball to the New Orleans franchise. Instead of getting 3 starters, a backup PG and a draft pick for Paul, they will end up receiving...nothing. How many season tickets do you think the Hornets will sell next season? After this season they should just board up the team offices and go out of business.

No one is going to deal with Demps again because they know he has no real authority to do anything. Stern and the other owners have emasculated him. Why Demps hasn't already resigned is a mystery to me. The league has been essentially wasting his time for the past year.

Please... They saved that franchise..

the two sides of the deal, salary-wise:

Chris Paul 16,359,805

or

Kevin Martin 11,519,840 12,439,675
Luis Scola 8,591,793 9,408,207 10,224,622
Goran Dragic 2,108,000
Lamar Odom 8,900,000 2,400,000

16,359,805 vs 65,592,137

that's nearly a 50 million dollar additional obligation for a team in such financial distress the league had to assume ownership to prevent bankruptcy. And that additional expense would be a toxic factor for any prospective buyer

Essentially, the 26 owners not involved in this deal were being asked to subsidize the trade to a tune of nearly 2 million dollars each. Now why the hell would they agree to that?

 

[slinslin]

And if I was a New Orleans fan I would much rather see my team have financial flexibility and get a high draft pick again than have mediocre expensive starters like Kevin Martin and Luis Scola lead the team to 35 wins every year.,

You can't honestly believe that team was going to be any good. Bad version for the 2009-2010 Rockets with no young talent and a bunch of overpaid mediocre players.

 

[slinslin]

"The decision was taken that Chris Paul in New Orleans was more valuable than the trade that was being discussed," Stern said.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...re_Valuable_Than_Proposed_Trade#ixzz1g3metQtF

So it seems Paul will hit free agency possibly. Guess I would rather offer the max to Westbrook first though.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Please... They saved that franchise..

the two sides of the deal, salary-wise:

Chris Paul 16,359,805

or

Kevin Martin 11,519,840 12,439,675
Luis Scola 8,591,793 9,408,207 10,224,622
Goran Dragic 2,108,000
Lamar Odom 8,900,000 2,400,000

16,359,805 vs 65,592,137

that's nearly a 50 million dollar additional obligation for a team in such financial distress the league had to assume ownership to prevent bankruptcy. And that additional expense would be a toxic factor for any prospective buyer

Essentially, the 26 owners not involved in this deal were being asked to subsidize the trade to a tune of nearly 2 million dollars each. Now why the hell would they agree to that?

I totally agree with this. The fact is that the league owns that team and the owners would be committing to the additional salary obligations. It would be better to let Paul walk.

 

[Renz]

Please... They saved that franchise..

the two sides of the deal, salary-wise:

Chris Paul 16,359,805

or

Kevin Martin 11,519,840 12,439,675
Luis Scola 8,591,793 9,408,207 10,224,622
Goran Dragic 2,108,000
Lamar Odom 8,900,000 2,400,000

16,359,805 vs 65,592,137

that's nearly a 50 million dollar additional obligation for a team in such financial distress the league had to assume ownership to prevent bankruptcy. And that additional expense would be a toxic factor for any prospective buyer

Essentially, the 26 owners not involved in this deal were being asked to subsidize the trade to a tune of nearly 2 million dollars each. Now why the hell would they agree to that?

So you're comparing Paul's salary this season to 8 season's worth of salary for 4 players? Nice. I guess when Paul walks the Hornets will only need to keep 8 players on their roster.

The franchise will only decrease in value as the economy stagnates and fan interest evaporates. A very short-sighted view by the owners there. No one in their right mind is going to pay the $300 million that the league spent on the Hornets.

Calling Odom, Scola and Martin "mediocre" is also laughable. I'm sure if this was the Suns you would say, "I'd rather let Nash walk than get Odom, Martin and Scola in return. We need cap flexibilty". LOL!

 

[slinslin]

Nobody is going to a watch a team with their best players being Scola and Martin.

And yeah I would rather let Nash walk for nothing than trade him for that.

Even in the first year the Hornets pick up an additional 14M$ salary all financed by OTHER NBA teams.

 

[Mainstreet]

It appears Stern stopped the trade because Paul was more valuable than the offer. With the Hornets under NBA ownership it is a strange situation.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217219/Stern_Paul_Staying_Put_More_Valuable_Than_Proposed_Trade

 

[AzStevenCal]

"Best PG in the game" should have no say where he plays?

The NBA: Where Amistad happens

Don't be such a Sapp!

Steve

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Yeah there is nothing wrong with players and agencies trying to dictate where a player can be traded.

We had no issues with this situation when we were actually a desirable location for these players.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

We had no issues with this situation when we were actually a desirable location for these players.

Remember those days? I would have taken that haul for Amare, and NO is a less attractive destination than Phoenix.

 

[Mainstreet]

Remember those days? I would have taken that haul for Amare, and NO is a less attractive destination than Phoenix.

It's interesting NY (as rumored) was willing to send Amare to NO for Paul. I think NY has some worries about Amare as well.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It's interesting NY (as rumored) was willing to send Amare to NO for Paul. I think NY has some worries about Amare as well.

NO was reported to refuse that offer flat bc Amare's contract is not insurable. NY took a big risk in signing to that deal, now they have to live with it.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It's interesting NY (as rumored) was willing to send Amare to NO for Paul. I think NY has some worries about Amare as well.

Maybe so, but even considering his injury issues, I would have taken a chance. I think we could have legitimately competed for a championship last year with Amare, especially if we ended up with Gortat.

 

[Mainstreet]

Maybe so, but even considering his injury issues, I would have taken a chance. I think we could have legitimately competed for a championship last year with Amare, especially if we ended up with Gortat.

Did Amare go down injured during the playoffs last season? It seems like there was something but I can't remember. Amare is one big not insurable asset which I think NY may continue to worry about.

 

[KloD]

Please... They saved that franchise..

the two sides of the deal, salary-wise:

Chris Paul 16,359,805

or

Kevin Martin 11,519,840 12,439,675
Luis Scola 8,591,793 9,408,207 10,224,622
Goran Dragic 2,108,000
Lamar Odom 8,900,000 2,400,000

16,359,805 vs 65,592,137

that's nearly a 50 million dollar additional obligation for a team in such financial distress the league had to assume ownership to prevent bankruptcy. And that additional expense would be a toxic factor for any prospective buyer

Essentially, the 26 owners not involved in this deal were being asked to subsidize the trade to a tune of nearly 2 million dollars each. Now why the hell would they agree to that?

My thoughts exactly. Add that Lamar and Luis are in their 30's. This deal sucked for N.O. and anyone suggesting otherwise is out if their mind IMO. N.O. is much better off letting him walk, but that won't happen because they will be able to sign and trade him next summer. Paul's options otherwise are to go to a non-contender that could afford him. He's not going to sign a mid-level with a contender that has zero cap space. Not trading him now puts control back to the team.

 

[jagu]

Chris Paul, if no one wants you the door's never closed in Phoenix. Put on a Suns jersey and make yourself at home.

 

[Covert Rain]

Yeah, I'm sure the Suns would no interest in fielding a super team. That's ridiculous. We have tried to do such in the past and actually had a shot to do it when we had quality ownership. We tried to land Kobe in 2007 when he wanted out of LA and he was willing to play here. We made a run at Olajuwon in the early 90's. We successfully landed Barkley and did not give up KJ or Majerle. Problem is that building a super team requires great players to want to play here and that stopped around the time Sarver bought the team and alienated pretty much everybody with the organization.

I am sure every team would if they could but Sarver probably woudn't want to spend the cash with the extra rules around the luxury tax. This is a new system that punishes teams more for doing it unless you have deep pockets. Wich the Lakers do. Not comparable.

CP3 wasn't dictating where he went either. I'm sure there are ten teams he'd accept a trade to assuming they would extend him and they had the parts around him that allow him to be successful. It's the exact same situation as Barkley. And the NBA is 30 different competing corporations that are tied together in a weird way nut with a common goal, it is a much different than the scenario you suggest.

He didn't? I heard it was more like 2 teams (Knicks and Lakers). That is dictating.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Did Amare go down injured during the playoffs last season? It seems like there was something but I can't remember. Amare is one big not insurable asset which I think NY may continue to worry about.

He may have the last game of the Boston series. In any event, D'Antoni brutally overused Amare. As usual, not trusting his bench, Amare was playing ridiculous minutes, and was clearly not the same in the 2nd half of the season.