Payton?

[devilalum]

Leander said the Suns have inquired about Payton?

 

[sly fly]

At this point in his career, Payton is nothing more than a solid backup PG on a good team.

He would help, but I can't stand that sourpuss.

 

[JS22]

EXACTLY what the Suns need, a firey vet with legit talent. (ala Jim Jackson.)

This team would be 100x better if Nash and Payton could share the load.

 

[goldseraph]

I can't stand Payton, I would rather not have him. I also believe if he
moves anywhere it will be back to Seattle to play his last year there.

 

[slinslin]

While I'd like to have Payton, he makes 5.4M$. That's 1M$ more than Marshall so the Suns really can't put together a package for Payton.

Too bad we bought out Eisley.

 

[asudevil83]

While I'd like to have Payton, he makes 5.4M$. That's 1M$ more than Marshall so the Suns really can't put together a package for Payton.

Too bad we bought out Eisley.

i bet you the suns are KICKING themselves in the ass right now because of that. i thought buying out Eisley was supposed to free up a roster spot, but the way we've been playing (only 8 deep max) the suns could have held onto him.

his ridiculous contract could have been used to package along with our chi pick and grab some guy (like payton, marshall, or any number of guys in the $5+ million range) and boster our bench. now we're just stuck with a dollar figure taking up space against the cap.

but apparently, according to some guy on another board (which i will leave annonymous) we can supposedly trade our buyout for a player of something of that nature. now, i totally dissagree, but wouldnt that be a nice dream.

 

[Chaplin]

Please. Eisley's spot on our roster would strictly be as a backup point guard. I guarantee the front office isn't wishing they got rid of him so that they could use him in a trade for Payton. Why would the Celtics even consider something that ridiculous?

 

[elindholm]

Why would the Celtics even consider something that ridiculous?

The idea is that the Suns could offer draft picks, and use Eisley to make the salaries match. The Celtics (or whatever other team) would be making the trade for the picks, not for Eisley. It's not especially likely that it would work, but at least it would give the Suns more options than they have now.

The buyout cannot be traded.

 

[PhxGametime]

I believe a Trade of:

Jake Voskuhl
Trade Exemption
Bo Outlaw
Leandro Barbosa

would work Most likely a 3-way Trade would happen, I doubt Boston needs that many players though.


Amare Stoudemire F/C
Shawn Marion F
Quentin Richardson G/F
Joe Johnson G/F
Steve Nash PG

Jim Jackson G/F
Gary Payton PG
Steven Hunter C
Smush Parker G
Paul Shirley PF
?
?

I would think a bigman would need to be signed That would be 1 sweet line-up PG to SF.

 

[PhxGametime]

Tremaine Folkes or Marcus Haislip could then be signed

Then most likely a Center, I'm not sure who though

 

[jbeecham]

I remember Eisley being bought out because he was pissed about being the 4th string PG behind Nash, Barbosa & Tabuse. It seemed like he was having a negative influence in the lockerroom.

 

[Chaplin]

I remember Eisley being bought out because he was pissed about being the 4th string PG behind Nash, Barbosa & Tabuse. It seemed like he was having a negative influence in the lockerroom.

He wasn't 4th string, he was 3rd, but the style we were playing did not fit his physical tools, that was why we bought him out.

 

[Joe Mama]

I was under the impression that they bought out Howard Eiseley's contract for a few reasons.

1. That they didn't want any problems in the locker room if he got upset because he wasn't getting any playing time. I'm not sure how much that really played into it. It could have been a big part of the reasoning or a very minimal part.

2. They wanted to free a roster spot. If I remember correctly they had a full roster before they bought him out.

3. They wanted to save a little bit of money.

4. The Phoenix Suns are just nice. That they knew he wanted to move on to a team where he could play. They were going to save a little money and get the other benefits listed above, so they obliged.

Regardless of the reasoning I disagree with those who think that having Howard Eiseley's contract would make it easier to negotiate a trade for someone like Gary Payton. I mean think about it. The Celtics would be giving up their best point guard, someone who has played well for them this season, to get a mid to late first-round draft pick and the opportunity to pay a third string point guard $4-5 million and take up a roster spot until after next season. Give me a break. Even if we threw in Barbosa that would be a terrible deal.

BTW that $4-5 million is only if the Phoenix Suns would throw in the maximum allowed $3 million cash in the deal.

I don't think the Phoenix Suns is spent more than 30 seconds questioning the decision to buy out Howard Eiseley's contract.

Joe Mama

 

[sunsfn]

No matter what the deal was with Eisley, I do not think the suns want Gary Payton..........!

 

[Joe Mama]

No matter what the deal was with Eisley, I do not think the suns want Gary Payton..........!

I'm not sure how the Phoenix Suns would feel about Gary Payton if he was a legitimate possibility. I can tell you how I would feel though. I don't like GP. He's a very good player, but he never shuts up and seems to be a locker room cancer when everything isn't hunky Dory. I can't imagine he will end up back in Seattle as someone suggested. He bitched his way out of there a couple years ago, and the ownership is still the same.

That said, on the court Gary Payton would be a great fit for this team. I have watched several Boston Celtics games this year, and I always come away thinking he would be perfect as Nash's backup and backcourt partner for a few minutes per game. He loves to push the ball. No one does it like Steve Nash, but the game wouldn't slow down much if he was coming off the bench for Nash. He can still run an offense, and when he wants to he can still play some decent defense.

It's too bad I just like him so much, so I wouldn't be able to give Bryan Colangelo the OK to make a move for him than... if it was a possibility in the first place.

Joe Mama

 

[cly2tw]

If the Celtics aren't gonna make the playoffs, they'd be inclined to buy Payton out and waive him, so that Payton could go to a contender for the playoffs. Maybe Payton would forfeit the remaining paycheck from the Celtics to be free this way. This'd be our chance to get him. But we still need an experienced big though. How about Payton getting Malone to here like they went to Lakers last year

 

[PhxGametime]

Maybe the Suns inquired to let Payton know of interest - I remember the Suns doing that with Tony Delk and next year signed him via FA...

 

[George O'Brien]

If the Celtics aren't gonna make the playoffs, they'd be inclined to buy Payton out and waive him, so that Payton could go to a contender for the playoffs. Maybe Payton would forfeit the remaining paycheck from the Celtics to be free this way. This'd be our chance to get him. But we still need an experienced big though. How about Payton getting Malone to here like they went to Lakers last year

The Atlantic is so weak that the Celtics have a legitimate shot at winning it and will be a contender through the trading deadline.

BTW, I'm not convinced Payton would be a good fit on the Suns. I haven't seen him much this season, but his style is just too different from Nash's.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If the Celtics aren't gonna make the playoffs, they'd be inclined to buy Payton out and waive him, so that Payton could go to a contender for the playoffs. Maybe Payton would forfeit the remaining paycheck from the Celtics to be free this way. This'd be our chance to get him. But we still need an experienced big though. How about Payton getting Malone to here like they went to Lakers last year

i was thinkin' payton/malone too. man that second unit would be a lot more potent!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The Atlantic is so weak that the Celtics have a legitimate shot at winning it and will be a contender through the trading deadline.

BTW, I'm not convinced Payton would be a good fit on the Suns. I haven't seen him much this season, but his style is just too different from Nash's.

but he pushes the ball, which none of our backup pgs do. he always has. look back at his sonics days. and now the celts are an uptempo team too. he'd be much better than what we currently have as a backup.

 

[cly2tw]

The Atlantic is so weak that the Celtics have a legitimate shot at winning it and will be a contender through the trading deadline.

BTW, I'm not convinced Payton would be a good fit on the Suns. I haven't seen him much this season, but his style is just too different from Nash's.

Nash's style is not the only one to win a game, it's the easiest one given the talent on the team and cluelessness of the coach to implement other ways. In the loss to Grizz, late in 3rd, we were doing good without Nash and lost the game by putting him back in too early. So, with Payton, even without Nash we'd be a competitor with the individual, athlectic talents we have! If he is only to lead the team for 15-20 min while Nash is out, we would see too much of a gap in terms of staying in the game and competing, and our chance of winning it all increases greatly.

We can't trade for Payton anyway. So, the "trading" deadline shouldn't affect our chance to sign him as FA if Celtics were to release him before the date when playoff rosters must be finalized.

 

[Joe Mama]

I'm sorry, but the idea that the Boston Celtics would buy out the rest of Payton's contract is borderline preposterous. They are either going to use him to try to make the playoffs, or they will trade him. They know he is a rather hot commodity. At the very least they could get a draft pick or two for him.

Joe

 

[cly2tw]

I'm sorry, but the idea that the Boston Celtics would buy out the rest of Payton's contract is borderline preposterous. They are either going to use him to try to make the playoffs, or they will trade him. They know he is a rather hot commodity. At the very least they could get a draft pick or two for him.

Joe

Where Payton wants to go may be the determining factor after all. But that is a moot point for the Suns right now.