Count me in as solidly agreeing with Conrad, Clif, and Rats.
And disagreeing a lot with some of Russ's contentions.
I think one ofthe great points made was that about Denny's proclivity to simply rule by fear and talking out both side of his mouth in regard to Josh.
I refuse to see how Greens modus operendi in handling the Josh situation can inspire much trust in most of the players on the team.
Yea maybe a couple of guys like Fitz and Quan might like the change right now.
But Green handling it the way he did, just reinforces that rule by fear mentality. Rule by fear can get you some results, especially short term, but it also usually creates a lack of trust in you from most players, because they see with their own eyes, that no matter what the Coach says, one day he may seem your greatest supporter, the next he's plunging a dagger in your back.
I think Josh ended up simply trying too hard to please Green. But Green, on his part, didn't always give Josh the guidance and leadership he evidently needs as this point.
To me a big question that hasn't been addressed enough in all this chatter is ....
How much of this "conservative" offense that has been brought up was due to Josh and how much of it was Green? I think that's its as reasonable, if not more so, to think that maybe some of the conservative play calling was simply the coaches creating their own self-limiting play calling.
One thing I noticed about this last game. I will try and review it for sure, but at one point King came off the field after another of his numerous screw ups, and he and Green got in a little "conversation" on the side line....and it sure looked like King was giving Green a "piece of his mind" and disagreeing with whatever it was Green was saying to him.
King has got that Randall Cunningham, Jeff Blake type ego, that evidently is not afraid to get verbally in Green's face.
I just don't see Josh being able to get away with that if he tried it now.
And I don't even see Josh trying it in the first place.
He knew he needed to improve some areas. But as a good soldier, trusting your coach, you just try and go out and do what he tells you to do.
He just seems like a big puppy dog trying so hard to please his master.
And in this case got his head blown off for it.
And disagreeing a lot with some of Russ's contentions.
I think one ofthe great points made was that about Denny's proclivity to simply rule by fear and talking out both side of his mouth in regard to Josh.
I refuse to see how Greens modus operendi in handling the Josh situation can inspire much trust in most of the players on the team.
Yea maybe a couple of guys like Fitz and Quan might like the change right now.
But Green handling it the way he did, just reinforces that rule by fear mentality. Rule by fear can get you some results, especially short term, but it also usually creates a lack of trust in you from most players, because they see with their own eyes, that no matter what the Coach says, one day he may seem your greatest supporter, the next he's plunging a dagger in your back.
I think Josh ended up simply trying too hard to please Green. But Green, on his part, didn't always give Josh the guidance and leadership he evidently needs as this point.
To me a big question that hasn't been addressed enough in all this chatter is ....
How much of this "conservative" offense that has been brought up was due to Josh and how much of it was Green? I think that's its as reasonable, if not more so, to think that maybe some of the conservative play calling was simply the coaches creating their own self-limiting play calling.
One thing I noticed about this last game. I will try and review it for sure, but at one point King came off the field after another of his numerous screw ups, and he and Green got in a little "conversation" on the side line....and it sure looked like King was giving Green a "piece of his mind" and disagreeing with whatever it was Green was saying to him.
King has got that Randall Cunningham, Jeff Blake type ego, that evidently is not afraid to get verbally in Green's face.
I just don't see Josh being able to get away with that if he tried it now.
And I don't even see Josh trying it in the first place.
He knew he needed to improve some areas. But as a good soldier, trusting your coach, you just try and go out and do what he tells you to do.
He just seems like a big puppy dog trying so hard to please his master.
And in this case got his head blown off for it.
