Peter King Doing A Two-Part Series On Palmer/BA On Weds/Thu

[187]

Saw this noted in the MMQB article this morning, sounds like it will be a good read:

Programming note from the The MMQB’s Promotions Dept.: We plan to have a special two-part series on Wednesday and Thursday this week about how a quarterback absorbs and learns a game plan, and how he puts that game plan into action. Before Arizona’s Nov. 1 game at Cleveland, I was given access to Palmer and Arians, and to the game plan process, which was a foreign language at times, War and Peace in breadth and scope at other times. It’s a really enjoyable project (I’m still working on Part 2) and I’m sure some of it will surprise you. I know it surprised me. Please come back to The MMQB Wednesday and Thursday to read about Palmer’s life as a football learner. When Arians says Palmer has a unique grounding system, you’ll certainly see it in great color and detail in those pieces.

Just a heads up to look for it on Wednesday and Thursday morning.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

 

[SeattleCard]

looking forward to it.

 

[Iceman]

That will be a great read for sure

 

[crisper57]

@SI_PeterKing: Indeed.
Carson Palmer in virtual reality headgear. You won’t want to miss that. https://t.co/Km0wZYBSBZ

 

[b8rtm8nn]

It's up, it's awesome!

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/11/17/nfl-carson-palmer-arizona-cardinals-inside-game-plan

 

[BigRedRage]

great read, thx.

 

[football karma]

gives you a great sense of:

1. How hard it would be to really get comfortable with understanding how to run the offense
2. The prep time involved

 

[SeattleCard]

Very good read. Revealing... Amazing what goes into playing QB in the NFL.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Now you realize why so many QBs fail. The work ethic that goes along with being a good QB is what most failures lack. They all have talent, hell we've seen it, it's the work and preparation the ability to digest things quickly is the difference between say a Ryan Leaf and a Peyton Manning.

Personally I think this is why Matt Leinart was a bust, IMO he lacked discipline and work ethic. I believe he was smart enough to understand the play book and digest it. He just didn't put in the work, as has been said many times on this board nobody came to his defense when he was cut.

 

[Darkside]

Great article, thanks for posting it.

Like:

"The first 15 passes get done differently in Arizona than in most places. Palmer picks them. After Arians IDs the passes he wants in the overall game plan, Palmer walks up to the whiteboard on Friday and puts a star next to the 15 he wants to run first; they become the first 15 passes. Palmer circles four of the 15, and those four become the passes he wants to call first in the game. Most coaches over time have adhered to the Bill Walsh philosophy of picking the first 15 offensive plays of the game. Arians picks 30, half run and half pass."

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[AZ Native]

Great read. My head was spinning, and that was only one play.

 

[Catfish]

Thanks 187---------that was a great read. Even when you just begin to think you know how much information is processed each week by NFL QB's, (you don't know the half of it). It would appear that Carson Palmer and Bruce Arians is a match made in football heaven. They are both consummate workers, and great technicians of the game, who relish working with each other. We are so gifted, (as fans), to have this front office and coaching staff, and an Owner/football operations manager who work so hard at staying on the same page with each other, and each taking care of his own business, yet having the same mind set as the other two units. Together, they have made this all possible. I relish this time as a Cardinals fan, (especially after all the lean years).

 

[b8rtm8nn]

What is also notable - Stanton seems to know the offense as well as Palmer and Arians, but he just cannot process the information fast enough while in as QB (as all of us note).

So besides being incredibly dedicated, understanding complex concepts and reading defenses...you have to actually be able to go out their and do all this live, on the field, with 300lb men trying to take your head off in about 3 seconds.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Good article!

Can't believe BA allowed his board to be pictured....same as the bed with all the info on it.

If I was the Bengals or another team we were facing I'd have our tech dept...breaking that down into info we can use.

Good article

 

[BigRedRage]

Good article!

Can't believe BA allowed his board to be pictured....same as the bed with all the info on it.

If I was the Bengals or another team we were facing I'd have our tech dept...breaking that down into info we can use.

Good article

the board was blurred out tho

 

[DeAnna]

Great read. My head was spinning, and that was only one play.

No kidding!

 

[Cardiac]

Not only is the article incredibly informative and eye opening but the fact that this is based on the Arizona Cards is amazing. Did any of us think we would get this kind of respect and acknowledgement in our lifetimes?

 

[Darkside]

Not only is the article incredibly informative and eye opening but the fact that this is based on the Arizona Cards is amazing. Did any of us think we would get this kind of respect and acknowledgement in our lifetimes?

No, but Peter King seems to have some type of insider access with the Cards. Not sure if it's Keim or BA but he also wrote some exclusive articles during the preseason, as well as many other articles since BA came here. He's the one that went exclusive in practice and described BA's coaching technique's in film room his very first year here. It's all there.

Peter King loves him some BA and Keim. Bigtime.

 

[BigRedRage]

PArt 2: http://mmqb.si.com/2015/11/18/nfl-c...als-inside-game-plan-part-ii-cleveland-browns

 

[RedRob]

Man those articles were simply awesome. Makes me want to reassess my work ethic too...

 

[oaken1]

really nice pair of articles

 

[DeAnna]

I liked this comment from a reader - soooo true!

1) That we fans - even those of us who see ourselves as knowledgeable (Hey, they're going Zero Coverage!) - truly have no idea what's really going on when we're watching a game. 2) That all of the sportswriters, bloggers, radio hosts, Internet commenters, and "first time caller, long time listeners" out there, have absolutely no idea what they're seeing on game day.

 

[crisper57]

I liked this comment from a reader - soooo true!

First time callers, long time listeners should be banned from radio. Eventually, we'd have no more callers.

I can dream, at least.

 

[kerouac9]

Now you realize why so many QBs fail. The work ethic that goes along with being a good QB is what most failures lack. They all have talent, hell we've seen it, it's the work and preparation the ability to digest things quickly is the difference between say a Ryan Leaf and a Peyton Manning.

Personally I think this is why Matt Leinart was a bust, IMO he lacked discipline and work ethic. I believe he was smart enough to understand the play book and digest it. He just didn't put in the work, as has been said many times on this board nobody came to his defense when he was cut.

This is dumb. These guys are professionals; they have a 40-hour work week to digest the playbook. There are 171 plays in the game plan, 100 of them are passes, and it didn't actually sound like those plays have variations out of different formations. 100 plays to perfect in a week mentally doesn't seem like that big a deal — 20 plays a day.

Honestly, I think that the thing that differentiates the players who make it from the busts is the ability to process information from the pre-snap to the pass quickly and accurately. I don't think you can scout it and I don't think you can interview through it. You can work around it a little, but I think it takes a rare skill set to be able to see 8 guys running patterns while at the same time perceiving the eyes of one guy (a safety or whatever) — and doing so with 9-11 other guys standing around and rushing/protecting you.

I think that being able to do that is something that you can get a hint of during a college career, but can't predict with any accuracy, and no amount of weekly studying is going to correct for it.