Peter King this morning on Matt Leinart

az jam

ASFN Icon
Joined
Mar 6, 2004
Posts
12,988
Reaction score
5,208
Location
Scottsdale, AZ
Peter King Sports Illustrated:

I think the best note from a practice session I've seen this summer came from Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic (don't mean to put him in every MMQB, but the guy's good), monitoring the combined Cards-Titans practice on Wednesday in Nashville. Before a snap when the Cards' offense stepped to the line of scrimmage, Somers heard a Titans defender say to a teammate: "I got a buffalo nickel that says he checks down.'' In footballese, that translates to: Matt Leinart will always take the easy way out instead of trying to make a play.

I think the Leinart yanking shows Ken Whisenhunt didn't trust Leinart in 2007, and he doesn't trust him now. How that trust can be rebuilt is the tough question
 

green machine

I rule at posting
Joined
Sep 4, 2002
Posts
6,126
Reaction score
11
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Is it the easy way or the safe way? I have a feeling Leinart would rather gain large chunks of yards every play except the risk for turnovers goes up then.
 

ASUCHRIS

ONE HEART BEAT!!!
Joined
Sep 2, 2002
Posts
16,507
Reaction score
14,671
Is it the easy way or the safe way? I have a feeling Leinart would rather gain large chunks of yards every play except the risk for turnovers goes up then.

There is a fine line between being safe and smart, and being a certain female part...(hint, it's not ovaries)
 

MaoTosiFanClub

The problem
Joined
Oct 7, 2003
Posts
12,721
Reaction score
6,568
Location
Scottsdale, AZ
Is it the easy way or the safe way? I have a feeling Leinart would rather gain large chunks of yards every play except the risk for turnovers goes up then.
It's easy and safe. Unfortunately it also generally results in punts and field goals. In order for our run game to work and score points against most teams we need some sort of threat downfield and Leinart has shown he's either unwilling or afraid to throw the ball for more than 15 yards. That's why Whiz has benched him. That and his overall crappy attitude.
 

MaoTosiFanClub

The problem
Joined
Oct 7, 2003
Posts
12,721
Reaction score
6,568
Location
Scottsdale, AZ
The old expression "you have to bet big to win big" applies here.

Leinart might be the guy here if we had the 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense. Unfortunately we don't so Whiz understands that at some point we're going to need to score points.
 

Spielman

Non-Troll Rams Fan
Joined
Sep 23, 2007
Posts
767
Reaction score
0
Somers heard a Titans defender say to a teammate: "I got a buffalo nickel that says he checks down.'' In footballese, that translates to: Matt Leinart will always take the easy way out instead of trying to make a play.

Heh. Could that possibly be a starker contrast to the last QB?
 

green machine

I rule at posting
Joined
Sep 4, 2002
Posts
6,126
Reaction score
11
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Funny thing is I always felt Whiz would want a caretaker type QB, one who would run the offense, minimize mistakes and not turn it over.
 

green machine

I rule at posting
Joined
Sep 4, 2002
Posts
6,126
Reaction score
11
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Furthermore, Leinart wasn't "captain checkdown" as a rookie, so what the hell happened since then?
 

Russ Smith

The Original Whizzinator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
87,571
Reaction score
38,809
Was this before or after he picked Plummer to win MVP again this year?
 

MrYeahBut

4 Food groups: beans, chili, cheese, bacon
Supporting Member
Joined
May 20, 2002
Posts
17,850
Reaction score
13,459
Location
Albq
Did he mention if he won the nickel or not?
 

wa52lz

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 25, 2009
Posts
2,270
Reaction score
1,461
So I'm supposed to believe that there are NFL players that know what a "buffalo nickle" is and use that term on a regular basis?
 

DeAnna

Just A Face in The Crowd
Joined
Jun 13, 2002
Posts
7,282
Reaction score
760
Location
Goodyear, AZ
Well, Whis has always liked a big, strong, tuff QB; apparently Matt does not fit that criteria.

I never thought he wanted a caretaker QB; if you look at the Steelers when he was there, they had a strong running game and took big shots down the field.
 

football karma

Michael snuggles the cap space
Joined
Jul 22, 2002
Posts
15,242
Reaction score
14,289
Wolf had an interesting observation on why Anderson looks to be Whis' guy:

post Warner, the Cards will be facing lots of 8 man fronts -- both to stop the run and to pressure the passer. To make them pay for that, an offense has to complete stuff down the field. Throwing 7 yard passes doesn't make a defense pay -- and can be dangerous against 8 man fronts as you have 6 players defending the pass ( 2 cbs, 3 lbs, 1 safety) within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.

Rationalization? maybe -- but I thought it was interesting.
 

CaptTurbo

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 5, 2003
Posts
16,782
Reaction score
5
Location
Pennsylvania
If they have 8 up front to pressure the passer the BEST thing you can do is the quick short passes.

Warner was praised for always finding what the defense gave him. Now Matt does it and its a liability.
 

Shane

Comin for you!
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
68,978
Reaction score
38,775
Location
Las Vegas
Thats pretty bad if Titan Defenders are making comments like that.
 

Staff online

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
553,169
Posts
5,405,830
Members
6,316
Latest member
Dermadent
Top