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[ajcardfan]

??? 12 TD/17 INT 73 rating? Not good in general and not good for Hasslebeck either. Great?

I think we are putting too much stock into the game at UofP last year. He torched us like he was Manning or Brady that day.

 

[Zeno]

NFL Network was just talking about the QB positions in AZ & Wash...were talking about QBs that might be available and mentioned Jake Delhomme--I'd rather have Bulger at that point NO FREAKING WAY!

 

[Unsterblich856]

Eh, why not. Worked out well the last time we plucked a division rival's burnout. Plus it's impossible to get any worse than we are at QB.

 

[Pariah]

NFL Network was just talking about the QB positions in AZ & Wash...were talking about QBs that might be available and mentioned Jake Delhomme--I'd rather have Bulger at that point NO FREAKING WAY!

Yeah, I hope the Cardinals want NO PART of Delholmme.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Guys available and the order I want them in:

1) Kolb - I like Kolb, hes young, has gone to Elite QB school for past few years and seems to put up big numbers even in limited opportunities (unlike Skelton, Hall, or Scud). I take him because of the potential to be set at QB and liking what I have seen

2) Palmer - I really believe HE could be Kurt Warner II. Has the big arm, accurate, good leader, and has been playing in a hopeless situation.

3) Hasselbeck - His injuries worry me but when hes upright, hes pretty good. Bonus points for hurting division rival

4) Mcnabb - I know its not happening but I dont think he is as bad as the player he showed least year and this would make Fitzy happy and a definite resign.

5) Orton - Just not big on him. I think he is a mediocre player whose numbers inflated playing for McDaniels. No thanks.

6) Bulger - Could see him being pretty good for the season, and I like what Q said abotu him being accurate like Warner but too many question marks. Would LOVE to bring him in to compete with one of the guys above.

1,009 - Derek Anderson

1,010 - Delhomme (please no)

 

[moklerman]

I still say Sage Rosenfels would be worth a look. By no means a sexy choice but I think the guy has a shot to be a Gannon type who blossoms late in his career. He's 33 so he's got 4-5 years left and he would come cheap enough that the Cards wouldn't balk at signing him.

6'4", 222 lbs, completed 65% of his passes in '07 & '08 when he was playing semi-regularly. Plus he's hungry. Really got screwed in Minnesota when his stock had some value. When he signed there he had a chance to compete for the job with Jackson and then they signed Favre. He got chained to the bench as the 3rd stringer and never got to play in '09. Then went to NYG to back up Eli who never misses a start.

 

[chickenhead]

It's a much more interesting idea to me than Bulger or Hasselbeck, whom I really view as solutions for this year only. Maybe that's all the Cards are looking for, though.

 

[Stout]

"That comment is asinine".

So you stalked me from another thread? Cool, I have a following.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

Guys available and the order I want them in:

1) Kolb - I like Kolb, hes young, has gone to Elite QB school for past few years and seems to put up big numbers even in limited opportunities (unlike Skelton, Hall, or Scud). I take him because of the potential to be set at QB and liking what I have seen

2) Palmer - I really believe HE could be Kurt Warner II. Has the big arm, accurate, good leader, and has been playing in a hopeless situation.

3) Hasselbeck - His injuries worry me but when hes upright, hes pretty good. Bonus points for hurting division rival

4) Mcnabb - I know its not happening but I dont think he is as bad as the player he showed least year and this would make Fitzy happy and a definite resign.

5) Orton - Just not big on him. I think he is a mediocre player whose numbers inflated playing for McDaniels. No thanks.

6) Bulger - Could see him being pretty good for the season, and I like what Q said abotu him being accurate like Warner but too many question marks. Would LOVE to bring him in to compete with one of the guys above.

1,009 - Derek Anderson

1,010 - Delhomme (please no)

 

[desertdawg]

Guys available and the order I want them in:

1) Kolb - I like Kolb, hes young, has gone to Elite QB school for past few years and seems to put up big numbers even in limited opportunities (unlike Skelton, Hall, or Scud). I take him because of the potential to be set at QB and liking what I have seen

2) Palmer - I really believe HE could be Kurt Warner II. Has the big arm, accurate, good leader, and has been playing in a hopeless situation.

3) Hasselbeck - His injuries worry me but when hes upright, hes pretty good. Bonus points for hurting division rival

4) Mcnabb - I know its not happening but I dont think he is as bad as the player he showed least year and this would make Fitzy happy and a definite resign.

5) Orton - Just not big on him. I think he is a mediocre player whose numbers inflated playing for McDaniels. No thanks.

6) Bulger - Could see him being pretty good for the season, and I like what Q said abotu him being accurate like Warner but too many question marks. Would LOVE to bring him in to compete with one of the guys above.

1,009 - Derek Anderson

1,010 - Delhomme (please no)

I don't even have to post my choices now. (Imight switch Kolb and Palmer but I definitely want one of those 2)

 

[Broseph]

would love hasselbeck here. i think he showed last year he can still ball. he made that ex-usc wideout look amazing, if he comes here he'll have larry. not the long-term solution, but i think with hasselbeck we can win the division.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

You're talking about Mike Williams. I'd love to have Hasselback bring him along to AZ as well. A 3WR set of Fitz-Breaston-Williams would be not only multi-dimensional, but completely unstoppable. I think it would even work better than Fitz-Boldin-Breaston because these three guys would be in clearly defined roles with no one guy battling for another guy's role....

 

[bg7brd]

Guys available and the order I want them in:

1) Kolb - I like Kolb, hes young, has gone to Elite QB school for past few years and seems to put up big numbers even in limited opportunities (unlike Skelton, Hall, or Scud). I take him because of the potential to be set at QB and liking what I have seen

2) Palmer - I really believe HE could be Kurt Warner II. Has the big arm, accurate, good leader, and has been playing in a hopeless situation.

3) Hasselbeck - His injuries worry me but when hes upright, hes pretty good. Bonus points for hurting division rival

4) Mcnabb - I know its not happening but I dont think he is as bad as the player he showed least year and this would make Fitzy happy and a definite resign.

5) Orton - Just not big on him. I think he is a mediocre player whose numbers inflated playing for McDaniels. No thanks.

6) Bulger - Could see him being pretty good for the season, and I like what Q said abotu him being accurate like Warner but too many question marks. Would LOVE to bring him in to compete with one of the guys above.

1,009 - Derek Anderson

1,010 - Delhomme (please no)

You can probably add Alex Smith to the equation. I doubt he wants to re-sign with SF now that they drafted Kaepernick in the 2nd rd.

 

[kerouac9]

Matt Hasselback has been a below-average QB for three seasons, two of which have been in offenses tailored to his skill set. Like McNabb, Hasselback is a pure West Coast QB and would be coming into an offense that doesn't suit his skill set. Add in the fact that he's been knocked around the last three straight years and I have no idea what people are looking at.

1) Bulger - He's free. He's young-ish. He's been productive in a similar offense (assuming we're still running the Martz-Cribbed offense that Warner brought). He's had a year to re-group and should be fresh.

2) Alex Smith - He's free. He's young. He's been productive in a spread shotgun offense that we've been running. He's more athletic than Blaine Gabbert. He has leadership ability and would like to stick a fork in our division rivals.

3) Trent Edwards - He's free. He's young. He has the attributes of a Martz-type quarterback and excels in fair conditions. He's a competitor.

4) Kellen Clemens - He's free. He's young. He'll lose a competition with John Skelton.

5) Carson Palmer. He'll cost a draft pick. He's on the hook for 2 years, $25 million. His skills are declining. He passed the Bengals into at least two losses last season. He probably doesn't want to play here.

6) Kevin Kolb. He hasn't been productive. He doesn't have leadership ability. He's from a QB-friendly offense with superior tools. He'll cost draft picks and a mega-contract.

7) Matt Hasselback. He's free. He's old. He's hilarious. Good leadership ability. Not a downfield passer.

8) Dennis Dixon. Restricted free agent. He's a former Steeler. He has mobility.

 

[The Commish]

Matt Hasselback has been a below-average QB for three seasons, two of which have been in offenses tailored to his skill set. Like McNabb, Hasselback is a pure West Coast QB and would be coming into an offense that doesn't suit his skill set. Add in the fact that he's been knocked around the last three straight years and I have no idea what people are looking at.

1) Bulger - He's free. He's young-ish. He's been productive in a similar offense (assuming we're still running the Martz-Cribbed offense that Warner brought). He's had a year to re-group and should be fresh.

2) Alex Smith - He's free. He's young. He's been productive in a spread shotgun offense that we've been running. He's more athletic than Blaine Gabbert. He has leadership ability and would like to stick a fork in our division rivals.

3) Trent Edwards - He's free. He's young. He has the attributes of a Martz-type quarterback and excels in fair conditions. He's a competitor.

4) Kellen Clemens - He's free. He's young. He'll lose a competition with John Skelton.

5) Carson Palmer. He'll cost a draft pick. He's on the hook for 2 years, $25 million. His skills are declining. He passed the Bengals into at least two losses last season. He probably doesn't want to play here.

6) Kevin Kolb. He hasn't been productive. He doesn't have leadership ability. He's from a QB-friendly offense with superior tools. He'll cost draft picks and a mega-contract.

7) Matt Hasselback. He's free. He's old. He's hilarious. Good leadership ability. Not a downfield passer.

8) Dennis Dixon. Restricted free agent. He's a former Steeler. He has mobility.

- Bulger is not young-ish
- No to Smith
- No to Edwards
- No to Clemens
- Yes to Palmer, and he would play here
- Agree on Kolb, depends on price
- Hasselback is fine downfield, especially jump ball/deep outs which suit Fitz
- No to Dixon

 

[desertdawg]

- Bulger is not young-ish
- No to Smith
- No to Edwards
- No to Clemens
- Yes to Palmer, and he would play here
- Agree on Kolb, depends on price
- Hasselback is fine downfield, especially jump ball/deep outs which suit Fitz
- No to Dixon

What about the Bears and Packers back ups?
I like the Packers back up QB more than the Bears but I got some Chi-town in me.

 

[moklerman]

Matt Hasselback has been a below-average QB for three seasons, two of which have been in offenses tailored to his skill set. Like McNabb, Hasselback is a pure West Coast QB and would be coming into an offense that doesn't suit his skill set. Add in the fact that he's been knocked around the last three straight years and I have no idea what people are looking at.

1) Bulger - He's free. He's young-ish. He's been productive in a similar offense (assuming we're still running the Martz-Cribbed offense that Warner brought). He's had a year to re-group and should be fresh.

As far as ability goes, Bulger really is the perfect option. He's got a quick release, is pretty good at identifying a defense and pre-snap reads and has good accuracy. I'd say his decision making is a bit lacking but not alarmingly so. Durability was, is and will be the question with him.

2) Alex Smith - He's free. He's young. He's been productive in a spread shotgun offense that we've been running. He's more athletic than Blaine Gabbert. He has leadership ability and would like to stick a fork in our division rivals.

I've got nothing against Alex Smith and think the book's still relatively open on him. Way too much instability with coaches and schemes in his career to consider him a fully defined QB. From what I've read though, he's probably going back to SF for another year. Not sure he'd be a good marriage with Whis either considering how much Nolan questioned his toughness.

3) Trent Edwards - He's free. He's young. He has the attributes of a Martz-type quarterback and excels in fair conditions. He's a competitor.

Edwards has always disappointed me whenever I've watched him. Seems to have the physical tools but he rarely seems to get positive results on the field. He would really scare me as the starter. His decision making and accuracy were very shaky from what I saw. Certainly not as cerebral as I thought a successful Stanford QB would be.

4) Kellen Clemens - He's free. He's young. He'll lose a competition with John Skelton.

Two different coaching staffs have given up on this guy and looked for any option other than him before they gave up. Not too encouraging. As bad as Sanchez played at times, they still didn't give him a shot. Career 51% passer with more than 2/1 INT/TD in his career in the time that he has played. Seems like "just a guy". Why bother, just stick with Skelton.

5) Carson Palmer. He'll cost a draft pick. He's on the hook for 2 years, $25 million. His skills are declining. He passed the Bengals into at least two losses last season. He probably doesn't want to play here.

Love Palmer's skills and potential and think a change of scenery will do him well. I agree that he probably doesn't want to play for the Cardinals and would probably cost too much anyway.

6) Kevin Kolb. He hasn't been productive. He doesn't have leadership ability. He's from a QB-friendly offense with superior tools. He'll cost draft picks and a mega-contract.

I agree. Has done far too little to warrant the attention and the price the Eagles are asking. If I could find a QB that actually hasn't looked good in the Eagles offense it would be easier to give him the benefit of doubt. But I can't help but think the Eagles wouldn't be shopping him if he was really the next superstar QB. For the price, he hasn't even proved to be durable.

7) Matt Hasselback. He's free. He's old. He's hilarious. Good leadership ability. Not a downfield passer.

If he came cheap enough, I wouldn't suggest against seeing how much could be squeezed out of the rest of his career but he seems like a career WCO guy who's best years were due in large part to an incredible running game and MVP RB. His accuracy and overall ability seem like they would trump a system change and at the very least, the Cardinals should be extremely familiar with his strengths and weaknesses.

8) Dennis Dixon. Restricted free agent. He's a former Steeler. He has mobility.

The Steeler connection makes for an obvious link but they really wanted to give him the 2nd string job last year and he couldn't do it. Got one decent game out of him and then he sprained his knee. In 59 career attempts, has 1 TD/2 INT. I think they still like him but hasn't capitalized on his chances. I don't think Whis is on firm enough ground to start a complete unknown at QB in '11 though.

Whatever they decide to do, they better not have it blow up in their collective faces again. Whis' credibility in selecting QB's is pretty bad right now.

 

[Duckjake]

As far as ability goes, Bulger really is the perfect option. He's got a quick release, is pretty good at identifying a defense and pre-snap reads and has good accuracy. I'd say his decision making is a bit lacking but not alarmingly so. Durability was, is and will be the question with him.

Bulger's completion % went down every year from 2006. So did his yards per attempt. His QB rating was right at 70 three years in a row and after throwing for 24 TDs with only 8 INTs in '06 never had more TDs than INTs again. What was up with all that? Was it him or were the Rams just that awful or both?

 

[Cardiac]

NFL Network was just talking about the QB positions in AZ & Wash...were talking about QBs that might be available and mentioned Jake Delhomme--I'd rather have Bulger at that point NO FREAKING WAY!

I might just keep DA rather then go with Delhomme, seriously.

 

[Cardiac]

Bulger's completion % went down every year from 2006. So did his yards per attempt. His QB rating was right at 70 three years in a row and after throwing for 24 TDs with only 8 INTs in '06 never had more TDs than INTs again. What was up with all that? Was it him or were the Rams just that awful or both?

The Rams were horrific as a team during those years. I am concerned that Bulger couldn't do a better job even though the O-line was 5 times worse then any line we have had.

Thing is that unlike DA Bulger has put up impressive numbers over several years (3?). He has the endorsement of Warner and Fitz and now Q so that's a positive as well.

 

[moklerman]

Bulger's completion % went down every year from 2006. So did his yards per attempt. His QB rating was right at 70 three years in a row and after throwing for 24 TDs with only 8 INTs in '06 never had more TDs than INTs again. What was up with all that? Was it him or were the Rams just that awful or both?

A little bit of everything. Bulger was getting pounded, the team was mutinying against Linehan, Bruce and Holt were let go, etc. It all added up to Bulger unraveling. Then a new regime in '09 coupled with a multitude of injuries to the offense and possibly the worst line of all of those teams just led to a change of scenery for Bulger as the only option.

Don't get me wrong though, I don't think he's going to be another Warner rising from the ashes story. He was always a notch below Warner(see '04 playoffs vs. Panthers) even when he was at his best. But, if he stays healthy he can be a very solid QB. His accuracy is good but again, not Warner good. He was always criticized for not being able to put the ball in just the right spot to give his receivers a chance to make more with a play. Very catchable and good completion percentage, but not uncanny accuracy like elite QB's have.

He's tough but not durable if that makes sense. He's willing to take a pounding but sometimes it eventually gets to him and he'll start unloading the ball early to avoid more hits.

He's anything but a fiery leader and his lack of emotion has been criticized depending on what one wants from their QB. Some think that he doesn't care enough and some think he's just cool under pressure. Not sure which is correct.

 

[gamebird98]

I might just keep DA rather then go with Delhomme, seriously.

I agree! I think with the offseason, he probably studied, and is ready for a break-out season!

 

[Cardiac]

I agree! I think with the offseason, he probably studied, and is ready for a break-out season!

To clarify, I want DA cut and then banished to the Mojave desert. I just want Delhomme less then DA. Who ever posted DA as his 1009th choice and Delhomme as his 1010th choice has it right.

 

[DoTheDew]

The Hass scares me because of health issues. I still would be okay with Bulger, but I'm in the minority.

If you don't want Hass because he is always hurt, then how can you be okay with Bulger? Both are made of glass.

 

[Gee!]

If you don't want Hass because he is always hurt, then how can you be okay with Bulger? Both are made of glass.

I dont want either.. And I dont want A Smith either.. Or Orton..