Thus proving that we're an absolute joke of an organization. KNOWINGLY hiring a coach in a "win now" style of league that you know isn't going to be good for a while, and then (your supposition here is that another less than successful season won't be enough to can him) giving him way too much time to develop in the HOPES he'll eventually be successful, is just laughable.
I don't agree with this supposition. A win now style of league? Confusing. Owners can run their organizations any way they want. Making this kind of apples to oranges comparison and then using it to cal us a joke is silly. The Cards havent been known historically to make the right decisions, but in the MB ear that have shown a remarkable ability to modernize, catch up, and become a football destination for players. Not always, but theres no denying the growth that has happened since MB took over. That in mind, I can completely see the validity in taking a long term approach to rebuilding a team that needed it. Taking a promising young coach (hindsight allows us to debate this a bit, but making this argument from a when he was hired frame of mind), and pairing him with a promising young franchise QB makes PERFECT sense to me. Theres a TON of work to do, and the jury is well out as to whether or not this will eventually bear fruit, but to call the methodology a joke, based on the comparison of a "win now style" of league is faulty at best.
Can you name any other organisation in recent that's hired a head coach and said "we don't expect him to win he's still learning"?
Who cares? I think what you mean to say is what organization has hired a coach and agreed to build a team with them, giving them room fro growth, thereby supplying a level of continuity crucial to long term success, and not just pulling the rug out from under him, especially when the team has shown viable improvement both years he has been with the team. TO that, I would say NOT ENOUGH.
yeah... the idea of being a team going out and hiring a coach who needs training wheels for a couple years doesn’t sound like a real smart organization to me.
Everyone has acknowledged the high risk high reward nature of this approach as it was happening. Have the rewards been high? Nope, but has it crashed and burned? definitely not. I think Stout's point above becomes more salient when we say that NFL fans are a "win now style" of fan. But the reality is, organizations may very well see a benefit in allowing inexperience to rear its head and cause the time frame for payoff to increase. That's their call to make. We get to critique it all we want, sure. But we only get the benefit of hindsight to do it. Teams have to roll the dice WAY harder when making and then critiquing their own decisions.
I can get behind the idea that BOTH Keim's and KK's seats are warming. This is the year where if there are injury setbacks, you need to REALLY assess whether or not Keim is the guy to continue to lead the organization (because we all know his drafts have been sub par leading to a FA style of building that most here agree is problematic in the long term), or if the team as a whole doesnt start to improve on its penalties, or the game time decision making doesnt show improvement, or the top down management of the ENTIRE team, not just the offense doesnt grow, then you need to really look at if KK can ever get there. But really, I don't have a problem with the aggressive move made by Keim a couple years back in the hiring of KK and drafting of Murray, and I dont subscribe to the idea that everyone needs to have a WIN NOW mentality. Its great for us as fans if our team does, but ultimately, its the organziations decision to choose their modus operandi.
