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I don't think it would move us into top 5. I look at it this way: If we had #1-#5, would you trade it for 7, 15, 23, and a bunch of second round picks? I would not. Now if we get into top 5, THEN I think we could move up, depending on who is picking where.
 

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I don't think it would move us into top 5. I look at it this way: If we had #1-#5, would you trade it for 7, 15, 23, and a bunch of second round picks? I would not. Now if we get into top 5, THEN I think we could move up, depending on who is picking where.

This is the way I look at it as well. If the Suns land in the top five picks they have a chance to move around in that grouping.

If not, these picks should allow the Suns to move around in the first round after the run of top players.

I'm hoping the Suns can use their second round picks to move up in the second round or acquire a young player at the trade deadline.
 

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I don't think it would move us into top 5. I look at it this way: If we had #1-#5, would you trade it for 7, 15, 23, and a bunch of second round picks? I would not. Now if we get into top 5, THEN I think we could move up, depending on who is picking where.

I agree with this in concept 100%. Teams aren't going to trade out of that elite group of prospects. The only question is where that group ends...

Definitely Elite Prospects: Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, Young

Potentially Elite: Bamba, Porter, Jackson

I don't think you could move into that top group with #7, but if you wanted pick #5, there's a chance you could move up. Porter has some questions, and as much as I love Bamba it would not surprise me if some teams view Jackson as his equal or even prefer him.

Jackson is a pretty unbelievable prospect as well.
 
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I don't think it would move us into top 5. I look at it this way: If we had #1-#5, would you trade it for 7, 15, 23, and a bunch of second round picks? I would not. Now if we get into top 5, THEN I think we could move up, depending on who is picking where.
I don’t think it’s a top 5 draft anymore. There are little cracks in the top 5. Doncics numbers have dropped. Ayton has looked uninspired. Bagley still needs some outside shooting. Porter is injured. Bamba needs to develop his offense. Meanwhile Young has worked his way in and Jaren Jackson is a high school senior (should be) who is eligible and looks like the real deal.

It’s a top 7 draft now.
 
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In a 3 way tie now with LAL and Brook for #6 slot. One Memphis win and its a 4 way tie.
 
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I agree with this in concept 100%. Teams aren't going to trade out of that elite group of prospects. The only question is where that group ends...

Definitely Elite Prospects: Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, Young

Potentially Elite: Bamba, Porter, Jackson

I don't think you could move into that top group with #7, but if you wanted pick #5, there's a chance you could move up. Porter has some questions, and as much as I love Bamba it would not surprise me if some teams view Jackson as his equal or even prefer him.

Jackson is a pretty unbelievable prospect as well.
I think we just said about the same thing. 7 player draft now. May even get bigger. Some of one or the other of the Bridges in that top group.

Tankathon's mock (you can run the lotto with it) has us picking either Jackson or Bamba with the 7 pick or Sexton with 8. I take Bamba over Jackon, its just the length. That length will work one way or another in the NBA. But Jackson is long too, just not as long as Bamba.

Sexton has been dropping. For me, if we can't get Young, I think I would prefer a vet pg for next year.
 

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I think we just said about the same thing. 7 player draft now. May even get bigger. Some of one or the other of the Bridges in that top group.

Tankathon's mock (you can run the lotto with it) has us picking either Jackson or Bamba with the 7 pick or Sexton with 8. I take Bamba over Jackon, its just the length. That length will work one way or another in the NBA. But Jackson is long too, just not as long as Bamba.

Sexton has been dropping. For me, if we can't get Young, I think I would prefer a vet pg for next year.

But Jackson is good right now. In all fairness, I am speaking from a very limited sample- two and three games, I may be off. However, Jackson looks like he could start contributing now.
 
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Would have loved the win tonight. But Memphis just beat Philly. Now we must need the Clippers to win.

Suns are now in sole possession of the fifth slot.
 

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The 4th or 5th spot is probably lowest we could be.
Atlanta stats are a few points better than ours but they have a genius for losing this year... so far. I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually outtank them. (Of course, I won't be surprised if we don't, either.)

Triano has 2 cards he hasn't played yet - Peters and Reed. I expect them to be positive contributors once they've gotten some experience under their belts but getting that experience would probably help our tanking this year.
 

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Atlanta stats are a few points better than ours but they have a genius for losing this year... so far. I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually outtank them. (Of course, I won't be surprised if we don't, either.)

Triano has 2 cards he hasn't played yet - Peters and Reed. I expect them to be positive contributors once they've gotten some experience under their belts but getting that experience would probably help our tanking this year.

I'm not getting any positive vibes about Reed's future.

Here are his G-League stats.

http://gleague.nba.com/player/davon-reed/
 

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Thanks, MS... well, it looks I was spot on about him helping the tanking effort! Those are some seriously bad shooting stats even for a guy who is rehabbing...
 
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No need to tank. We are where we are. I would be happy with almost any pick in the top 7.

I just would like to get that Milwaukee pick now. Who knows how good Milwaukee will be next year with a coach that can spell his own name.
 

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No need to tank. We are where we are. I would be happy with almost any pick in the top 7.

I just would like to get that Milwaukee pick now. Who knows how good Milwaukee will be next year with a coach that can spell his own name.

Agreed. I'm sold at this point that Jaren Jackson belongs in a top 7. He is really coming on and there is a TON to like about him as a prospect.

Really, my biggest concern at pick 7 would be if one of those 7 guys returned to school. (Bridges surprised with a return to MSU; maybe Jackson does too? Who knows what Porter's plan is..., etc.)

As far as Milwaukee...It definitely would be ideal if it conveyed this year, as I don't see a team with Greek Freak trending down short of an injury or him asking out. I don't think we need three first rounders, but an interesting thought...

Last year, Sacramento and Portland swapped the 15th and 20th picks for the 10th pick.

I could see the Bucks and Heat picks landing around 15 and 20 and would love to trade up to around 10.

If we draft a big with our first pick, maybe we get lucky and can grab Sexton or one of the Bridges'.

If we draft Doncic or Young, Wendell Carter would be a good pick around the 10 range.
 
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No need to tank. We are where we are. I would be happy with almost any pick in the top 7.

I just would like to get that Milwaukee pick now. Who knows how good Milwaukee will be next year with a coach that can spell his own name.

Yeah we don't need to tank ...we just need to lose.

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Yeah we don't need to tank ...we just need to lose.

:confused:
I don't even think we need to do that much. Worst case scenario with the ping pong balls now is probably 7. Any one of the top 7 picks could be a superstar player.
 
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Wow. DFox with the huge put back slam for the Sac win over Miami. Goran failed to block him out.

As of now. 5, 16, 22, 35, 40, 57

Tankathon has that as Trae, Troy Brown, and Mitchell Robinson in the first round.

BTW. Mitchell Robinson reminds me so much of Skal.
 
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As of now. 5, 16, 22, 35, 40, 57

Tankathon has that as Trae, Troy Brown, and Mitchell Robinson in the first.

Sounds like things are trending in the right direction. I would like it if all three first rounders convey this year. But there is no way we should use first two picks on PG. If we did take Young at 5, then I would go with someone like McCoy at 16. Then maybe taking a flyer on a project like Robinson at 22 would be okay.

Even better of course would be packaging the two later picks to get another pick in the top 10 and snagging someone like Jackson or Bamba, if we could high enough, or one of them slides a bit. But that would probably take more good fortune than we can count on.

I do like McCoy better than all of the other big men outside the top ten. I think he would be a solid pick and could be an instant starter for us.
 

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Wow. DFox with the huge put back slam for the Sac win over Miami. Goran failed to block him out.

As of now. 5, 16, 22, 35, 40, 57

Tankathon has that as Trae, Troy Brown, and Mitchell Robinson in the first round.

BTW. Mitchell Robinson reminds me so much of Skal.

Yea Fox!

Needless to say, I liked Fox in the draft. :bang:
 
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Sounds like things are trendingJ in the right direction. I would like it if all three first rounders convey this year. But there is no way we should use first two picks on PG. If we did take Young at 5, then I would go with someone like McCoy at 16. Then maybe taking a flyer on a project like Robinson at 22 would be okay.

Even better of course would be packaging the two later picks to get another pick in the top 10 and snagging someone like Jackson or Bamba, if we could high enough, or one of them slides a bit. But that would probably take more good fortune than we can count on.

I do like McCoy better than all of the other big men outside the top ten. I think he would be a solid pick and could be an instant starter for us.

I don't think the two later picks would be enough to move up into the Jackson/Bamba range unless we included a young player as well. Chriss or Bender plus the two picks might do it. But I am not sure the value of those two. TJ plus one of those picks might get us there. JJ plus one might as well.

I tend to think we might trade those two picks together for an established player.
 

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