Pistons/Lakers game 3

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I'm have no idea how this game will turn out, frankly. There are too many question marks:

Lakers' energy: the first question always seems to be, which Lakers team will show up? They played with more energy in game 2, but they still didn't look like the team that surprised the Spurs in game 3 of that series.

Now that they've snuck out a win, they might be due for another letdown, but I think the energy from Detroit's crowd will pick them up at least a little.

Malone's knee: Even if he suits up, Malone won't be playing too much in this game. That means the Lakers' PF will be filled by Slava Medvedenko and Luke Walton, possibly with an assist from Brian Cook.

Medvedenko and Walton would both improve the Lakers' offense, because Karla can't hit a jumper now that the Finals have arrived. PF defense is now a weakness, though, and Rasheed Wallace should have a good game (but not as good as his talent would dictate, of course).

Bench strength: The Lakers' bench was the biggest difference in game 2, or rather, Luke Walton was. Walton dominated Corliss Williamson, who probably put Walton on the court in the first place by making Rick Fox look washed up in game 1.

Walton should get major minutes in this game, too, but I expect Detroit's bench will bounce back now that they're at home. Okur should have the biggest mismatch on offense as backup PF and C, but he clearly didn't want to shoot in game 2, and Larry Brown would probably prefer not to play him at all. That means the Pistons will look to Elden Campbell to play a major role in tonight's game.

"Scoreless" Williamson will also need to put up points tonight, or the Lakers will go small and punish his defense with impunity.


So I guess tonight's game will probably come down to Shaq's FTs and ORB, Kobe's scoring, and Rush/Walton/Medvedenko off the bench for the Lakers, with the Pistons relying on Billups and Rip Hamilton from outside and Williamson, Campbell and Rasheed posting up.

Pistons need to win this one pretty bad if they want to make this into a series...
 

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Well, I have a hard time seeing the Lakers winning this game. Malone's injury hurts, and it is probably better that he sits out. Bench play is ussually much better at home than on the road, and that could give Detroit a big advantage. Unless GP comes out and plays VERY well (doesn't look very possible so far), I think the Lakers will struggle. The good thing is that Detroit isn't the type of team that will run away from you, so there is always a chance. If I had to bet, I would take Detroit in this game, with Karl pulling a Willis Reed in game 4 and giving big time inspiration to the Lakers for a huge win.

Even with all that, my heart obviously says Lakers, but we'll see what happens. Kobe and Shaq are really going to need to come up with pantheon-type play for the Lakers to pull this one out. Hopefully, I am completely wrong!

GO LAKERS!!!!
 

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LakeShowMan said:
Well, I have a hard time seeing the Lakers winning this game. Malone's injury hurts, and it is probably better that he sits out. Bench play is ussually much better at home than on the road, and that could give Detroit a big advantage. Unless GP comes out and plays VERY well (doesn't look very possible so far), I think the Lakers will struggle. The good thing is that Detroit isn't the type of team that will run away from you, so there is always a chance. If I had to bet, I would take Detroit in this game, with Karl pulling a Willis Reed in game 4 and giving big time inspiration to the Lakers for a huge win.

Even with all that, my heart obviously says Lakers, but we'll see what happens. Kobe and Shaq are really going to need to come up with pantheon-type play for the Lakers to pull this one out. Hopefully, I am completely wrong!

GO LAKERS!!!!

That is as honest an assessment as I've ever seen from a Laker fan! :thumbup:
 

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Chaplin said:
That is as honest an assessment as I've ever seen from a Laker fan! :thumbup:


Come on Chap I am always honest, of course it is honest with Purple&Gold glasses firmly in place. :doi:

Man do I hope I am wrong!
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Gotta tell you, LSM, you are definitely in a different class from most Laker fans. :cheers:
 

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Detroit 39-32 at the half game three.

32 freakin' points from the "Lake Show"?!?
 

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NickelBack said:
Detroit 39-32 at the half game three.

32 freakin' points from the "Lake Show"?!?

Bryant held to 1 point at the half.

Honestly the Lakers are lucky to be in this game at all
 

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however this series ends, this detroit d has to go down as one of the best ever!
 

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however this series ends, this detroit d has to go down as one of the best ever!

I don't think anyone with argue with you on that point.

Too bad their offense is one of the worst in history
 

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however this series ends, this detroit d has to go down as one of the best ever!

I think LA's lack of effort has been just as much of a factor in Game 3 as Detroit's defense.
 

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Final score 88-68 Pistons. All you can say about that game was that the Lakers got their asses handed to them. Plain and simple domination from the Pistons

If this game isn't proof that Kobe wants the hell out of LA then I don't know what is
 

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Wow.

So much for Lakers in 5. This is why I don't bet on sports. :rolleyes:

It will be interesting to see how the officiating changes. I felt that O'Neal was fouled while trying to receive a lot of entry passes. If more of those had been called, the Lakers would have had a much easier time working the ball inside.

But the bottom line is that Malone and Payton are contributing almost nothing, which means that this is basically the same team that lost to the Spurs last year.

A fascinating drama!
 

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Evil Ash said:
If this game isn't proof of the reason that Kobe wants the hell out of LA then I don't know what does

Regardless of the score throughout the game, Kobe just did not look like he was enjoying himself much, even at the beginning of the game.
 

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elindholm said:
Wow.

So much for Lakers in 5. This is why I don't bet on sports. :rolleyes:

It will be interesting to see how the officiating changes. I felt that O'Neal was fouled while trying to receive a lot of entry passes. If more of those had been called, the Lakers would have had a much easier time working the ball inside.

But the bottom line is that Malone and Payton are contributing almost nothing, which means that this is basically the same team that lost to the Spurs last year.

A fascinating drama!

I think the officiating was pretty horrid on both ends.
 

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When one team is asleep and the other is going 100%, that's what generally happens.


True, but Detroit at this point is clearly a better team top to bottom, after seeing these three games, I don't know how anybody could argue against this.
 

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True, but Detroit at this point is clearly a better team top to bottom, after seeing these three games, I don't know how anybody could argue against this.

The Pistons are a better in that they have more individual players that can contribute solid minutes, but Detroit doesn't have anybody on their team that's nearly as good as Shaq or Kobe. So in my opinion it evens out. LA's lack of hustle was the difference tonight.
 

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Detroit has a really balanced team. Everybody is a good defender with Ben and Prince being very good at that. Besides Ben, everybody can shoot. And, most importantly, everybody is capable to exploit those nummerous mismatches their team offense created by screening etc. Corliss Williams got two baskets in the post against Kobe, etc.

In contrast, Lakers have two superstars who can't seem able to be effective at the same time. Had they had more of Malone-Kobe screening and go type of moves, they might have had a better chance. Late in the game, Shaq was noticiably worn down and lost a couple of rebounds.

Anybody still wants Marion over Prince? :wave:

Go, Pistons! :thumbup:
 

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The Pistons are a better in that they have more individual players that can contribute solid minutes, but Detroit doesn't have anybody on their team that's nearly as good as Shaq or Kobe. So in my opinion it evens out. LA's lack of hustle was the difference tonight.

I really didn't see the lack of hustle. In the first game I thought that argument might have held some water, but the Lakers knew what was at stake in this game. I think the Pistons have a bunch of long players that really bother the Lakers.

BTW I do agree with Eric that the Pistons were getting away with a lot of contact when the Lakers were trying to get the ball into Shaquille O'Neal. It doesn't really bother me however. They are also allowing Shaq to spend an awful long time in the lane. It's actually kind of nice to see a relatively evenly called series involving the Lakers.

LakeShowMan, what have you thought of the officiating so far, think we have learned that we can count on you for an honest, objective opinion?

Eric, I know you were trying to help me with that deal you offered, but I sure think it sucks now. :) I'm sure wishing I would have been able to get that $20 bet on the Pistons to win the series down at the last minute on Sunday. Oh well.
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That game was great - damnit if they would have only fouled Shaq - they'd be on the verg of a sweep - pretty sweet to waqtch the Lakers pretty much get dominated for three games - next game is GINORMOUS - I expect an absolute classic war.
 

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Eric, I know you were trying to help me with that deal you offered, but I sure think it sucks now. I'm sure wishing I would have been able to get that $20 bet on the Pistons to win the series down at the last minute on Sunday.

I didn't find a bet for just "Pistons win the series," but probably another site had one. The site I found only had the in-how-many-games bets. I think if you bet on all four possibilities (Pistons in four, five, six, or seven) the net odds would have come out to about 4:1, but I don't remember.

Anyway, if the Pistons do win the series, we'll come up with some fair way to compensate you. :) I admit that the replacement deal I offered doesn't look very good right now.
 
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Usually, the Lakers thrive when the refs stop calling fouls. In this game, they got horsewhipped.

With Malone looking completely ineffective out there, the Lakers have to be deeply concerned right now. Detroit might even be the favorite at this point.


I still think the Pistons will have to win one more game in LA, though. :shrug:
 

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Maybe after being beaten twice and almost beaten a third time, it is time for the Lakers to admit that it is more than the Lakers playing badly. The Pistons are WHY the Lakers are looking so bad.

I find it curious that the only team that gave the Pistons problems were the Nets - because the Nets wanted to run all the time. But in the Phil Jackson triangle, the Lakers don't even try to be a running team (of course Malone and Shaq have something to do with it).

I never thought the Pistons could shut down Shaq, but for all effective purposes they have without constant double teaming. This is huge since it means that no one is ever left open. The Lakers can't find the open man, because there is no open man.

Pistons in FIVE. :thumbup:
 

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So much for west coast dominance as protrayed in the media.


GO Pistons!

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