POLL: Sean Payton in 2023 (Officially Going to Denver)

[SoonerLou]

MISC Payton comments about Kyler

- Why the heck would you need a clause for him study?
- He'd have to be firm with a guy like that or move him.
- He also said he believes he needs more easy plays. Such as improving the run game so they can set up easier play action plays.

I dont think he loves Kyler. He probably intrigues him. However, guys like Herbert are just better/safer choices.

And I wouldnt doubt he believes Bryce Young fits his "Brees mold" more than Kyler. Not saying he'd be right or good. Just that Bryce actually has pocket presence/slides to find throwing lanes.

As great as Payton was for Brees. It was Brees who was dedicated to improving his footwork in the pocket and finding throwing lanes.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I'd go with Demeco Ryans.

I think he'd get more out of the defense.

Kliffy's seat is warming up proper now Krang. Sorry man. I know you wanted him to get a fair chance.

But it's not all on Murray. There's mounting evidence that K2 has lost control of the team.

 

[kerouac9]

Straight up trade of Kliff for Josh McDaniels. Each gets to take as much of their staff with them as they like.

Who says no?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Straight up trade of Kliff for Josh McDaniels. Each gets to take as much of their staff with them as they like.

Who says no?

Heh no.

McDaniels is his own type of dumpster fire.

 

[oaken1]

NO.


First because he would not come here anyway.

second, because he has never done anything without a Hall of Fame quarterback,.....and we do not have one of those.

oh...and Bounty Gate

 

[oaken1]

I’d be down for Harbaugh

yeah...I strongly dislike the guy.... but I would be happy to get him as a HC

 

[slanidrac16]

I'd go with Demeco Ryans.

I think he'd get more out of the defense.

Six of his front seven is better than all but one of our front seven. He’d be leaving filet mignon for chopped meat. It would take 2 years for Ryan’s to turn this defense around.

 

[THESMEL]

Absolutely don’t want anyone associated with that scandal. For a guy that’s all about players and their safety would think you would too. But hey whatever.

I'm ready to rally around Kliff - because the likes of Payton put a bounty on Kliff as he entered the nfl. Now Kliffs air red offense will work if he balances the attack up against nfl teams, it has to be more balanced then college - talent differential is very negligible in the mfl. Cannot outperform nfl defenses consistently with continuity one dimensional, either way. Proven fact.

No edge no super bowl, no beanie no 09 playoffs, no CJ no ba playoffs, maybe with DJ - no connor no playoffs last year - cover me in mud, feathers , fudge! Don't change this !

A new run game staff with balks and a voice is needed - more then head coach, GM or QB

 

[oaken1]

it comes down to this really...

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[Brak]

Eddie DeBartolo went from being the worst owner in the NFL to the best, overnight. How? By realizing he had no idea wtf he was doing, by hiring the right guy at the right time (Bill Walsh), and giving him the keys and getting out of his way and relegating himself to just signing checks. Perhaps MB will realize he needs to do the same thing - but in order for it to work, he's gotta find that "right guy", and there ain't many of them who come along. Payton could be that guy. Do it. Or at least try.

 

[Jetstream Green]

kindness?

I think you would have to up the ante and call it compassion, which would be quite ironic from any nonnurturing style hard arse coach

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

I'd go with Demeco Ryans.

I think he'd get more out of the defense.

With Kliffy as the OC? Lol

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

The only way I see Sean Payton saying yes is 10 million/year, full control with Keim fired, he is either the GM himself or he hires his own. Plus Sean let's Bidwill know that if Kyler can't learn his system then we need another QB? If Bidwill is ok with all of that & agrees to just sign checks & nothing more, then maybe lol? All that ain't happening first of all, Sean is too smart to work for an organization that will tarnish his coaching record. I don't care what people think about Sean Payton, he wins & that's what we all want at the end of the day. I didn't like bounty gate either but that type of play is over with because of the new rules.

 

[unseenaz]

Straight up trade of Kliff for Josh McDaniels. Each gets to take as much of their staff with them as they like.

Who says no?

Umm.. the raiders but also the cards.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Six of his front seven is better than all but one of our front seven. He’d be leaving filet mignon for chopped meat. It would take 2 years for Ryan’s to turn this defense around.

Longer than that with Keim as the GM, hell, he probably wouldn't make it as our coach with Keim building this team.

 

[oaken1]

The only way I see Sean Payton saying yes is 10 million/year, full control with Keim fired, he is either the GM himself or he hires his own. Plus Sean let's Bidwill know that if Kyler can't learn his system then we need another QB? If Bidwill is ok with all of that & agrees to just sign checks & nothing more, then maybe lol? All that ain't happening first of all, Sean is too smart to work for an organization that will tarnish his coaching record. I don't care what people think about Sean Payton, he wins & that's what we all want at the end of the day. I didn't like bounty gate either but that type of play is over with because of the new rules.

in truth coaching the cards could solidify his legacy... the aints were terrible for decades before he and Brees showed up.

but...there were rules in place when bounty gate happened...and they didnt stop it

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

in truth coaching the cards could solidify his legacy... the aints were terrible for decades before he and Brees showed up.

but...there were rules in place when bounty gate happened...and they didnt stop it

No way those types of hits would be allowed now, especially with the QB & that's the position his DC targeted against us. Sure players could still get bonuses under the table but even hitting players that aren't QB's are now watched closely. His legacy is already solidified, he won a SB & got close to getting back many other times. He's not gonna work under Steve Keim, I can assure you of that. Bidwill would have to just sign checks & let him do everything else, just don't see Bidwill firing his buddy.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

As great as Payton was for Brees. It was Brees who was dedicated to improving his footwork in the pocket and finding throwing lanes.

This is the key right here

As good as a coach is, the player still has to do his part to excel

 

[schutd]

it comes down to this really...

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Maybe Buddha has become my favorite Cardinal. Any guy who can F bomb out and then straight faced drop into the lords prayer, is my kinda hero. Plus, he had accountability, and holds people accountable. Tats the kind of leadership this team needs.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Buddy Ryan was known for bounties

There were/are plenty of coaches who use bounties...it's been in the game forever. Payton and Williams were just used as "Enough Is Enough" scapegoats by the NFL, because the story blew up and the visual evidence was blatantly obvious.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

NO.


First because he would not come here anyway.

second, because he has never done anything without a Hall of Fame quarterback,.....and we do not have one of those.

oh...and Bounty Gate

I forgot Brees was a HOF QB before coming to the Saints...hahahaha He was decent with the Chargers, but don't forget, he was also injured when he signed with the Saints. Payton took a huge gamble with Brees and their partnership paid off huge., but Brees was nowhere near HOF before pairing with Payton.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Absolute scum of a human being but, we don’t care about character in this organization anymore so I say go for it.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[Brian in Mesa]

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[BritCard]

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