Poll: Should the Suns trade for Kobe?

[wizzard324]

I think it's a split decision throughout the Valley...he's such a good player, but Suns fans hate him.

Anyway, Gambo and Ash are trying to figure it out too...

http://sports.ktar.com/?nid=145&sid=497806

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Only an idiot would say no if it meant not giving up Amare or Nash.

 

[arwillan]

yes, 100%. the best player on the planer may be on the trade block and the suns have some chips to work with. granted it will be tough with the lakers in the suns division, but LB/Banks/marion might be enough to do it. nobody likes having players on their team who dont want to be there.

 

[Nasser22]

He's the best player in the league. I would at least make an attempt to get him.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Only an idiot would say no if it meant not giving up Amare or Nash.

As much as it pains me to say this, I agree....

 

[Nasser22]

I never hated Kobe, I hated the fans and their team. It would be sweet taking away their best player and going up against them with Kobe on our side.

 

[TheHopToad]

...he's such a good player, but Suns fans hate him.

You would see the biggest instantaneous conversion of hate to love that anyone has ever seen! He is hated by Suns fans in large part because he is a Laker and we hate the Lakers. Make him one of us and he can be our hero...

 

[azirish]

Without knowing the price, I couldn't say.

There is certainly a possible chemistry issue, but that is less important than the price.

 

[CardShark]

I say no. He's a cancer on the scale of Terrell Owens. He's the reason the Lakers are in such a mess. He's already taken back that he wants to be traded. He wants to be the center of the attention and doesn't care how he does it. I'd rather add another quality big man and stop looking at tearing this team apart.

 

[devilalum]

yes, 100%. the best player on the planer may be on the trade block and the suns have some chips to work with. granted it will be tough with the lakers in the suns division, but LB/Banks/marion might be enough to do it.

Why would the Lakers agree to take a **** like Banks?

If the Lakers do trade Kome I don't see why they'd have to take anybody's bad contract to get a deal done. If anything you'd think the team getting Kobe would have to take on a crap contract.

I'd say the Suns would have to offer something like LB/Raja/Marion and picks to even get a look. Do 3 really good role players equal one superstar?

 

[elindholm]

I'd say the Suns would have to offer something like LB/Raja/Marion and picks to even get a look. Do 3 really good role players equal one superstar?

Four role players, of varying degrees of quality, equaled a superstar for the Suns and Rockets in 1996, but that was a different situation. I guess.

(Gasp: And don't tell anyone, but that was within the same conference!)

 

[devilalum]

...he's such a good player, but Suns fans hate him.

Danny Ainge?
Mario Ellie?

 

[devilalum]

Four role players, of varying degrees of quality, equaled a superstar for the Suns and Rockets in 1996, but that was a different situation. I guess.

And the Suns got Barkley for role plaers but it didn't work out all that well for the Sixers.

 

[elindholm]

And the Suns got Barkley for role plaers but it didn't work out all that well for the Sixers.

I'm not sure Hornacek was only a role player. I guess he was around Marion's level, coming off of an All-Star appearance and well regarded as the third option on a good team. Frankly I think Hornacek was probably a better player than Marion, although it's difficult to compare players at different positions and different eras.

 

[devilalum]

I'm not sure Hornacek was only a role player. I guess he was around Marion's level, coming off of an All-Star appearance and well regarded as the third option on a good team. Frankly I think Hornacek was probably a better player than Marion, although it's difficult to compare players at different positions and different eras.

Hornacek was good but he was more of a legendary fan favorite. He didn't do very well in Philly but had good success in Utah.

Trading superstars for role plaers never makes your team better unless you're just rying to dump salary and start over ala Marbury for garbage.

 

[Forrestham]

Ive hated Kobe too but if we could get him for any combo of players without giving up Amare or NAsh I would do it. This "cancer" has 3 rings. I{f we got one than sucked I would be happy

 

[SO91]

It doesn't matter who the Lakers trade him to, because they're not getting full value in return.

 

[Espo]

Ive hated Kobe too but if we could get him for any combo of players without giving up Amare or NAsh I would do it. This "cancer" has 3 rings. I{f we got one than sucked I would be happy

I 100% agree. The Suns have played the "good guy" game long enough. If you can get Kobe and you can win a championship you do it. It's time to do whatever it takes.

 

[elindholm]

Hornacek was good but he was more of a legendary fan favorite.

Boy, I don't know about that. He was one of the best shooters of his era (career 50% overall and 40% for three) and dished out five assists per game as a shooting guard, never mind averaging almost one and a half steals. He never won a title, but he went deep into the playoffs several times, including the Finals twice. Unlike a current Suns player whose name I won't mention, his performance always held strong in the playoffs, and he was a vital weapon on some very good teams.

He didn't do very well in Philly but had good success in Utah.

Hornacek was miserable in Philadelphia and even threatened retirement, which is why the Sixers traded him after less than two seasons. But in his only full year there, he averaged 19 points (on 47% shooting) and 7 assists, which is hardly chump change.

Hornacek was a damn good player. Marginalizing him as a "fan favorite" really isn't accurate.

 

[HooverDam]

Only an idiot would say no if it meant not giving up Amare or Nash.

Only an idiot would trade the best player in the league to their division rival/best team in their division. If Kobe goes, he's going east, or at least out of the Pacific. Can we at least try to be realistic? Or should we talk about a KG-Amare-Marion-Kobe-Nash line up?

 

[dodie53]

nash + amare + kobe = finals appearance

 

[Muggum]

It just feels like we'd be selling our soul to the devil to go after that jerk Kobe.

I want to keep the team as is, add a couple draft picks, and go Spurs-hunting next year. We can do it with the guys we have. I know it.

 

[azirish]

I honestly don't know how the chemistry would work. It could really blow up in our face. But if it weren't for the fact that Kobe's such a scumbag, it would be hard to turn down the right deal. He is that good.

The question no one seems to be asking is whether Kobe would prefer the Suns? If he forces a deal, he can all but choose the team due to his ability to kill it with not only his trade veto but also his trade kicker.

Would he pick the Suns? Three years ago the answer was no (he was given a chance and turned the Suns down). What he sees now is:

- Best PG in the NBA
- An up tempo offense that would get him a lot more shooting opportunties (but a lower percentage of the team's shots)
- A reliable low post threat to keep teams from doubling him all the time
- Joining a team that was only suspension from the beating the team likely to win the championship
- A chance to go into the playoffs without having to face Raja

Chicago may have more trading pieces, but they are not close to be a championship team right now.

IMHO, the chances of Kobe leaving LA are very very low. But if he wanted to move, Phoenix could very well be his preferred destination.

 

[arthurracoon]

i hate him, but id take him on the suns

 

[Gee!]

i hate him, but id take him on the suns

your dead