Possible trade with Giants

[Totally_Red]

no such thing as poll fatigue

Here is the scenario: the New York Football Giants want to draft their QBOTF and offer one of their twos (39 or 47) this year and their second rounder next year to go from 6 to 4.
This likely means we miss out on MHJ, but probably get our choice of Odunze, Nabers or Joe Alt. Do YOU pull the trigger?

 

[Shane]

I would because I absolutely love the other two wide receivers and the tackle. Two extra seconds is a nice Haul.

 

[BritCard]

I think if MHJ is there you just take him.

But I like other guys too so wouldn't cry if we got a haul.

 

[CFLredzoned]

It depends on the timing. Has the draft started yet? What pick are we at?

 

[Shane]

You could probably use both of those 2nds to pair with 27 and get back into the top 15 somewhere and take that DT from Texas too??? Maybe???

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

NO!!! If Harrison is there, Just take the best player and be done with it. If he's gone, sure, do it.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

No way!

A guy like MJH comes along once every 10 or 15 years! He's the kind of player that wins you two extra games a season!

He's a walking mismatch vs 95% of NFL CBs, and tilts the field so far in your favor that you can't pass on him unless the trade back offer is so ridiculous that it gets investigated by the NFL competition committee!

 

[Shane]

He's the kind of player that wins you two extra games a season!

Do you have some sort of analytical evidence of this that supports such a wild claim?

 

[kerouac9]

Absolutely. Thats a remarkable overpay to move down two slots.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

no such thing as poll fatigue

Here is the scenario: the New York Football Giants want to draft their QBOTF and offer one of their twos (39 or 47) this year and their second rounder next year to go from 6 to 4.
This likely means we miss out on MHJ, but probably get our choice of Odunze, Nabers or Joe Alt. Do YOU pull the trigger?

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[SoonerLou]

Only do it unless you're a 1000% sure the Chargers are going Oline.

 

[Solar7]

If MHJ is there, no.

If he's not... I guess. But I would assume you could get a lot more if a team was trying to move up for the last remaining top QB. Like, at that point, why not make the trade with Atlanta and ask for next year's #1 and one of their 3rd rounders this year? (They own 74 & 79.)

 

[GatorAZ]

Only do it unless you're a 1000% sure the Chargers are going Oline.

Marvin Harrison Jr lasting until 6th would be hilarious. Harbaugh is too smart for that.

 

[Stout]

NO!!! If Harrison is there, Just take the best player and be done with it. If he's gone, sure, do it.

This, 1,000 times this. Don't be the smartest guy in the room, Monti. If that "you'd have to be an idiot not to take him" player in MHJ is there, just draft the right guy. If not, sure, because you can get either Nabers or Odunze (preferably the latter). Alt shouldn't even be in the equation.

 

[football karma]

you do that 10/10 times

the precision we assume in these pre draft rankings isnt supported at all by past drafts

The .1 of a point in draft rating that MHJ has vs Nabers or Odunze means nothing in the real world

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I think if MHJ is there you just take him.

But I like other guys too so wouldn't cry if we got a haul.

If Marvin is there at 4 doesn’t that mean all the qbs are gone and we won’t get anything for 4?

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Galaxy braining going on here just makes me shake my head.

This team DESPERATELY needs a difference maker at WR. Harrison is far and away the biggest difference maker at WR not only in this draft, but in probably the last ten drafts. But yes… let’s move out of his way to get lower ranked WR prospects because we might be able to pick up another BJ Oujulari.

This all feels like battered fan syndrome where fans are already making excuses for the beating they fear the team is planning for them in the draft.

 

[oaken1]

The Galaxy braining going on here just makes me shake my head.

This team DESPERATELY needs a difference maker at WR. Harrison is far and away the biggest difference maker at WR not only in this draft, but in probably the last ten drafts. But yes… let’s move out of his way to get lower ranked WR prospects because we might be able to pick up another BJ Oujulari.

This all feels like battered fan syndrome where fans are already making excuses for the beating they fear the team is planning for them in the draft.

BJ Ojulari??
Nah man,... the extra pick is gonna be Maxx Crosby

 

[Red Bird]

You can have MHJ or….the mystery box

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[GatorAZ]

The Galaxy braining going on here just makes me shake my head.

This team DESPERATELY needs a difference maker at WR. Harrison is far and away the biggest difference maker at WR not only in this draft, but in probably the last ten drafts. But yes… let’s move out of his way to get lower ranked WR prospects because we might be able to pick up another BJ Oujulari.

This all feels like battered fan syndrome where fans are already making excuses for the beating they fear the team is planning for them in the draft.

Fear not, nobody is trading up for tiny hands McCarthy.

 

[outcent13]

I can see the Chargers taking oline and passing on WR help based on who they have and what they need. There is a world where MHJ is available at six. However, I’m not sure I risk it unless the intel is strong enough to indicate Chargers go Oline.

 

[oaken1]

I can see the Chargers taking oline and passing on WR help based on who they have and what they need. There is a world where MHJ is available at six. However, I’m not sure I risk it unless the intel is strong enough to indicate Chargers go Oline.

Goodell might force the pick... otherwise the draft headlines will all be dominated by "Coach Harbaugh QUITS at the Draft"

 

[football karma]

Harrison is far and away the biggest difference maker at WR not only in this draft, but in probably the last ten drafts.

if this were objective fact, then of course you dont trade out of the slot

but I dont think that it is. Nabers has been described by many of the online draft "experts" as very close to MHJ, or 1b to Harrisons 1a.

this isnt a Suggs vs Calvin Pace situation. Its a AJ Green vs Juliio Jones situation

 

[Krangodnzr]

if this were objective fact, then of course you dont trade out of the slot

but I dont think that it is. Nabers has been described by many of the online draft "experts" as very close to MHJ, or 1b to Harrisons 1a.

this isnt a Suggs vs Calvin Pace situation. Its a AJ Green vs Juliio Jones situation

Listen to what Daniel Jeremiah is saying about MHJ, Odunze, and Nabers.

All three of them would be WR 1 in most drafts. Its an extremely rare situation to have three blue chip WRs in one draft. Your comparison is apt; trading down and getting Odunze or Nabers isn't like missing out on Suggs and getting Pace. It's kind of like picking cookie dough instead of rocky road. It's not like selecting one of the other receivers is akin to picking walnut ice cream.

Adding two premium picks (2nd rounders are still premium) would be a coup and would be a great asset to move up from #27 and get an even better player.

 

[CardNots]

If one of the top 3 QBs is available at the 4 pick means MHJ has already been picked.