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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Before I get to my 53, here we are after the third preseason game, and I feel the coaches have a good grasp on who they want where.
Injuries are part of the game. That is one thing that has to be said. This team has consistently been project between 6-10 and 10-6 since the end of last year. Is another. Keep that in mind as the Cardinals finish up the offseason. While, of course, injuries have made a HUGE impact to the offensive line, it has to a vastly lesser extent on the fringes of the roster.
Note: to pass all the B.S. - and just see the list, see the post below this one.
Quarterback:
Skelton, and Kolb are still fighting it out, but with a strong performance against the Titans, especially without Levi Brown on the line, Skelton earns the job for week 1 of the season. That's IMHO.
Ryan Lindley has shown enough that he will be our 3rd QB. Bartel is nothing that is going to hold a team together and his experience is not THAT valuable. He didn't play a snap against Oakland, which is very telling. If we even see Bartel again, it will be playing for his job against the Titans.
Levi-gate Conspiracy Theories: Kolb is packaged for a deal to get a LT.
QB - Final Roster:
John Skelton
Kevin Kolb
Ryan Lindley
Cut:
Richard Bartel
Running Back:
William Powell has played well, not only out of the backfield, but more importantly for the Cardinals on special teams. Alfonso Smith is very solid RB, that has shown he can handle playing in the NFL, and protect the ball. I think Powell's special team play gets him a roster spot.
RB - Final Roster:
Chris Wells
Ryan Williams
LaRod Stephens-Howling
William Powell
Cut:
Alfonso Smith
Javarris James
Thomas Clayton
Fullback:
Sherman has this sealed up. He just keeps improving. As for the backup TE, and/or 4th TE. I believe Jim Dray will keep this spot, even though I believe Steve Skelton gave him a good run for his money. Skelton, or M.Webb barely saw the field last week, if at all.
FB - Final Roster:
Anthony Sherman
Jim Dray
Cut:
Jared Crank
Reagan Maui'a
Steve Skelton
Martell Webb
Wide Receiver:
The Cardinals are about set here. With the injury to Levi Brown, they will keep 5 receivers. The battle that is still going on, in my opinion, is between DeMarco Sampson, and LaRon Byrd. Byrd missed a big opportunity when he missed out on the Oakland game. Sampson has a year under his belt so he has the edge right now, with the Cardinals probably thinking they can try to keep Byrd on the practice squad. It will come down to the last 2 games to see who gets the spot.
WR - Final Roster:
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Roberts
Early Doucet
Michael Floyd
[DeMarco Sampson/LaRon Byrd] <--- Edge to Sampson
Cut:
[LaRon Byrd/DeMarco Sampson]
Isaiah Williams
Stephen Williams
Gino Crump
Jaymar Johnson
Tre Gray
Tight End:
Yep.
TE - Final Roster:
Jeff King
Todd Heap
Rob Housler
Offensive Line:
Ugh. Can we start over? You know....go back to March ? Just.....Ugh. This is a mess. I am going to leave Levi Brown on the roster & leave a spot on the final 53 for a free agent possibility [UPDATE: Levi Brown is going on I.R.] Do the Cardinals carry 4 OT's into the season ? Even the guard positions don't seem to stable. There has to be a reason that Jeremy Bridges was tried out at RG. Even the backup center position is in quesiton, yet I have a feeling they are going to re-sign Ryan Bartholomew to the practice squad when he heals up from his injury, Bartholomew was waived once he got hurt, BTW.
As for LT, specifically the Cardinals are going to look at trades, free agents, and every player they have that has played OT on their roster. That would be Jeremy Bridges, DJ Young, D'Anthony Batiste, Nate Potter, Bobby Massie, and Senio Kelemete (was a LT in college).
It is easier to just list the battles that are going on:
LT (starting):
DJ Young vs. D'Anthony Batiste vs. Nate Potter vs. Jeremy Bridges
RT (starting):
D'Anthony Batiste vs. Bobby Massie vs. Jeremy Bridges vs. DJ Young vs. Nate Potter
RG (starting):
Adam Snyder vs. Jeremy Bridges vs. D'Anthony Batiste vs. Senio Kelemete
OC (backup):
Rich Ohrnberger vs. Scott Wedgie vs. Russ Hochstein vs. Adam Snyder*
Yep. It is a MESS! Looks like it too out on the field.
OL - Final Roster:
UPDATE: Levi Brown will be going on I.R.
LT:
DJ Young/Free Agent
DJ Young*
[----] <---- Could open a spot for Nate Potter, or Brandon Williams, OLB
RT:
D'Anthony Batiste
Jeremy Bridges
Bobby Massie
LG:
Daryn Colledge
Senio Kelemete
RG:
Adam Snyder
OC:
Lyle Sendlein
Cut:
Nate Potter (PS)
Russ Hochstein
Rich Ohrnberger (PS)
Scott Wedgie
Defensive Line:
Yes. Landon Cohen, Ronald Talley, and Ricky Lumpkin have played solid, and that is great..... for the practice squad.
DL - Final Roster:
Calais Campbell
Darnell Dockett
Dan Williams
David Carter
Nick Eason
Vonnie Holliday
Cut:
Ricky Lumpkin
Ronald Talley
Tevita Finau
Landon Cohen
Outside Linebacker:
O'Brien Schofield. The guy can rush the passer, and is "very good" at it. Yet, he gets lit up in the run game, and now his knee is giving him trouble. He is a depth player, not a starter. No worries the Cardinals have the players at OLB to be effective as a unit, IMO.
One hopes Reggie Walker's best game played, which was the last preseason game continues because he can be the guy that can backup Stewart Bradley if Bradley needs to play some OLB, while Lenon heals.
There is a good battle here between Quentin Groves, and Brandon Williams. While Groves has made some plays that draw attention, Brandon Williams has been solid as well. Nothing flashy but getting the job done. While I believe Groves (who is playing some special teams as well, BTW) has the edge, I do not believe he has locked it up. The door is still open for Brandon Williams, and that is it. I should also note, that with Lenon, and Schofield banged up, if Levi Brown goes on I.R. there is a chance Brandon Williams makes the final 53, as the last guy in.
OLB - Final Roster:
Sam Acho
Clark Haggans
O'Brien Schofield
[Quetin Groves/Brandon Williams]
Cut:
[Brandon Williams/Quetin Groves]
Everrette Thompson
Antonio Coleman
Zack Nash
Inside Linebacker:
Alright, lets talk about this. Here and now. Stewart Bradley, why did that S.O.B. have to do it this way? Go search Stewart Bradley on this board. I have been talking about this guy since he was a RFA for the Eagles. Being in the Philadelphia area, I have seen what we have all been watching this preseason before. 3 years ago in Philly the guy was a monster. He was the replacement that Philadelphia had been looking for to replace Jeremiah Trotter. A big, 6'4" 260lbs run stopping ILBer that can cover, and run your defense. This is what the Cardinals have been looking for at the SILB position. Thus why last year, I was crushed, and embarrassed to see him play the way he did. Fair enough, he gets a mulligan and I am back on the bandwagon. I just hope, hope, hope Bradley can keep this type of play going.
So, the 4th ILB'er spot is going to be a battle. Colin Parker (listed at 223lbs but he is bigger than that) has been played earlier and more often then Quan Sturdivant, but those two won't sniff the roster if Reggie Walker continues to play like he did in the Oakland game.
ILB - Final Roster:
Daryl Washington
Stewart Bradley
Paris Lenon
[Reggie Walker/Colin Parker/Quan Sturdivant]
Cut:
[Colin Parker/Reggie Walker]
Quan Sturdivant
Paul Vassallo
Marcus McGraw
Cornerback:
There is a good battle for the CB#2 spot. William Gay has the spot right now based strictly on experience. Jamell Flemming is the first man in from what I can see. Michael Adams has had a bad hamstring as the worse possible time for his career, and same goes for Greg Toler, not a good time for his knee to act up. With guys like Justin Bethel, LSH, and Williams Powell on the team Michael Adams value on ST is diminished. He is cut, IMHO.
But it doesn't stop there. You cannot discount Larry Parker and what he has shown, yet again, Parker is showing a lot but this is a stacked CB roster. I don't think Parker beats out Jefferson or Toler.
CB - Final Roster:
Patrick Peterson
William Gay
Jamell Flemming
Greg Toler
AJ Jefferson
Cut:
Michael Adams
Larry Parker (PS)
Marshay Green
James Nixon
Crezdon Butler
Safety:
As per Reggie Walker, I hope to see Rashad Johnson show he has enough to stay on a 53 man roster. In a much lesser extent, Johnson showed last game he, at least, knows what he is doing, and can make a tackle. As much as I like Blake Gideon, and Eddie Elder, I think Johnson has shown enough to beat them out, and justify where the coaches have played him during the preseason games, and how much time he has been out on the field.
Justin Bethel is in. Frank Sanders is in. That leaves Blake Gideon, and Eddie Elder on the outside looking it. Too bad, good potential there. And can we stop the silly talking about Kerry Rhodes not making the team ? Seriously ?
S - Final Roster:
Adrian Wilson
Kerry Rhodes
Frank Sanders
Rashad Johnson
Justin Bethel
Cut:
Eddie Elder
Blake Gideon
Special Teams:
One thing here. Can we stop the ridiculousness that is, "Take Patrick Peterson off punt return.". Uh, NO. Best offensive weapon we have until, we find a QB that consistently throw the ball to Fitzgerald, and we want to take him out of the game ? No. Sorry. Dumb move, ultra-conservative thinking to the point of hurting your team.
ST - Final Roster:
K: Jay Feely
P: Dave Zastudil
LS: Mike Leach
PR: Peterson, Roberts
KR: LSH, Powell, Jefferson
Before I get to my 53, here we are after the third preseason game, and I feel the coaches have a good grasp on who they want where.
Injuries are part of the game. That is one thing that has to be said. This team has consistently been project between 6-10 and 10-6 since the end of last year. Is another. Keep that in mind as the Cardinals finish up the offseason. While, of course, injuries have made a HUGE impact to the offensive line, it has to a vastly lesser extent on the fringes of the roster.
Note: to pass all the B.S. - and just see the list, see the post below this one.
Quarterback:
Skelton, and Kolb are still fighting it out, but with a strong performance against the Titans, especially without Levi Brown on the line, Skelton earns the job for week 1 of the season. That's IMHO.
Ryan Lindley has shown enough that he will be our 3rd QB. Bartel is nothing that is going to hold a team together and his experience is not THAT valuable. He didn't play a snap against Oakland, which is very telling. If we even see Bartel again, it will be playing for his job against the Titans.
Levi-gate Conspiracy Theories: Kolb is packaged for a deal to get a LT.
QB - Final Roster:
John Skelton
Kevin Kolb
Ryan Lindley
Cut:
Richard Bartel
Running Back:
William Powell has played well, not only out of the backfield, but more importantly for the Cardinals on special teams. Alfonso Smith is very solid RB, that has shown he can handle playing in the NFL, and protect the ball. I think Powell's special team play gets him a roster spot.
RB - Final Roster:
Chris Wells
Ryan Williams
LaRod Stephens-Howling
William Powell
Cut:
Alfonso Smith
Javarris James
Thomas Clayton
Fullback:
Sherman has this sealed up. He just keeps improving. As for the backup TE, and/or 4th TE. I believe Jim Dray will keep this spot, even though I believe Steve Skelton gave him a good run for his money. Skelton, or M.Webb barely saw the field last week, if at all.
FB - Final Roster:
Anthony Sherman
Jim Dray
Cut:
Jared Crank
Reagan Maui'a
Steve Skelton
Martell Webb
Wide Receiver:
The Cardinals are about set here. With the injury to Levi Brown, they will keep 5 receivers. The battle that is still going on, in my opinion, is between DeMarco Sampson, and LaRon Byrd. Byrd missed a big opportunity when he missed out on the Oakland game. Sampson has a year under his belt so he has the edge right now, with the Cardinals probably thinking they can try to keep Byrd on the practice squad. It will come down to the last 2 games to see who gets the spot.
WR - Final Roster:
Larry Fitzgerald
Andre Roberts
Early Doucet
Michael Floyd
[DeMarco Sampson/LaRon Byrd] <--- Edge to Sampson
Cut:
[LaRon Byrd/DeMarco Sampson]
Isaiah Williams
Stephen Williams
Gino Crump
Jaymar Johnson
Tre Gray
Tight End:
Yep.
TE - Final Roster:
Jeff King
Todd Heap
Rob Housler
Offensive Line:
Ugh. Can we start over? You know....go back to March ? Just.....Ugh. This is a mess. I am going to leave Levi Brown on the roster & leave a spot on the final 53 for a free agent possibility [UPDATE: Levi Brown is going on I.R.] Do the Cardinals carry 4 OT's into the season ? Even the guard positions don't seem to stable. There has to be a reason that Jeremy Bridges was tried out at RG. Even the backup center position is in quesiton, yet I have a feeling they are going to re-sign Ryan Bartholomew to the practice squad when he heals up from his injury, Bartholomew was waived once he got hurt, BTW.
As for LT, specifically the Cardinals are going to look at trades, free agents, and every player they have that has played OT on their roster. That would be Jeremy Bridges, DJ Young, D'Anthony Batiste, Nate Potter, Bobby Massie, and Senio Kelemete (was a LT in college).
It is easier to just list the battles that are going on:
LT (starting):
DJ Young vs. D'Anthony Batiste vs. Nate Potter vs. Jeremy Bridges
RT (starting):
D'Anthony Batiste vs. Bobby Massie vs. Jeremy Bridges vs. DJ Young vs. Nate Potter
RG (starting):
Adam Snyder vs. Jeremy Bridges vs. D'Anthony Batiste vs. Senio Kelemete
OC (backup):
Rich Ohrnberger vs. Scott Wedgie vs. Russ Hochstein vs. Adam Snyder*
Yep. It is a MESS! Looks like it too out on the field.
OL - Final Roster:
UPDATE: Levi Brown will be going on I.R.
LT:
DJ Young/Free Agent
DJ Young*
[----] <---- Could open a spot for Nate Potter, or Brandon Williams, OLB
RT:
D'Anthony Batiste
Jeremy Bridges
Bobby Massie
LG:
Daryn Colledge
Senio Kelemete
RG:
Adam Snyder
OC:
Lyle Sendlein
Cut:
Nate Potter (PS)
Russ Hochstein
Rich Ohrnberger (PS)
Scott Wedgie
Defensive Line:
Yes. Landon Cohen, Ronald Talley, and Ricky Lumpkin have played solid, and that is great..... for the practice squad.
DL - Final Roster:
Calais Campbell
Darnell Dockett
Dan Williams
David Carter
Nick Eason
Vonnie Holliday
Cut:
Ricky Lumpkin
Ronald Talley
Tevita Finau
Landon Cohen
Outside Linebacker:
O'Brien Schofield. The guy can rush the passer, and is "very good" at it. Yet, he gets lit up in the run game, and now his knee is giving him trouble. He is a depth player, not a starter. No worries the Cardinals have the players at OLB to be effective as a unit, IMO.
One hopes Reggie Walker's best game played, which was the last preseason game continues because he can be the guy that can backup Stewart Bradley if Bradley needs to play some OLB, while Lenon heals.
There is a good battle here between Quentin Groves, and Brandon Williams. While Groves has made some plays that draw attention, Brandon Williams has been solid as well. Nothing flashy but getting the job done. While I believe Groves (who is playing some special teams as well, BTW) has the edge, I do not believe he has locked it up. The door is still open for Brandon Williams, and that is it. I should also note, that with Lenon, and Schofield banged up, if Levi Brown goes on I.R. there is a chance Brandon Williams makes the final 53, as the last guy in.
OLB - Final Roster:
Sam Acho
Clark Haggans
O'Brien Schofield
[Quetin Groves/Brandon Williams]
Cut:
[Brandon Williams/Quetin Groves]
Everrette Thompson
Antonio Coleman
Zack Nash
Inside Linebacker:
Alright, lets talk about this. Here and now. Stewart Bradley, why did that S.O.B. have to do it this way? Go search Stewart Bradley on this board. I have been talking about this guy since he was a RFA for the Eagles. Being in the Philadelphia area, I have seen what we have all been watching this preseason before. 3 years ago in Philly the guy was a monster. He was the replacement that Philadelphia had been looking for to replace Jeremiah Trotter. A big, 6'4" 260lbs run stopping ILBer that can cover, and run your defense. This is what the Cardinals have been looking for at the SILB position. Thus why last year, I was crushed, and embarrassed to see him play the way he did. Fair enough, he gets a mulligan and I am back on the bandwagon. I just hope, hope, hope Bradley can keep this type of play going.
So, the 4th ILB'er spot is going to be a battle. Colin Parker (listed at 223lbs but he is bigger than that) has been played earlier and more often then Quan Sturdivant, but those two won't sniff the roster if Reggie Walker continues to play like he did in the Oakland game.
ILB - Final Roster:
Daryl Washington
Stewart Bradley
Paris Lenon
[Reggie Walker/Colin Parker/Quan Sturdivant]
Cut:
[Colin Parker/Reggie Walker]
Quan Sturdivant
Paul Vassallo
Marcus McGraw
Cornerback:
There is a good battle for the CB#2 spot. William Gay has the spot right now based strictly on experience. Jamell Flemming is the first man in from what I can see. Michael Adams has had a bad hamstring as the worse possible time for his career, and same goes for Greg Toler, not a good time for his knee to act up. With guys like Justin Bethel, LSH, and Williams Powell on the team Michael Adams value on ST is diminished. He is cut, IMHO.
But it doesn't stop there. You cannot discount Larry Parker and what he has shown, yet again, Parker is showing a lot but this is a stacked CB roster. I don't think Parker beats out Jefferson or Toler.
CB - Final Roster:
Patrick Peterson
William Gay
Jamell Flemming
Greg Toler
AJ Jefferson
Cut:
Michael Adams
Larry Parker (PS)
Marshay Green
James Nixon
Crezdon Butler
Safety:
As per Reggie Walker, I hope to see Rashad Johnson show he has enough to stay on a 53 man roster. In a much lesser extent, Johnson showed last game he, at least, knows what he is doing, and can make a tackle. As much as I like Blake Gideon, and Eddie Elder, I think Johnson has shown enough to beat them out, and justify where the coaches have played him during the preseason games, and how much time he has been out on the field.
Justin Bethel is in. Frank Sanders is in. That leaves Blake Gideon, and Eddie Elder on the outside looking it. Too bad, good potential there. And can we stop the silly talking about Kerry Rhodes not making the team ? Seriously ?
S - Final Roster:
Adrian Wilson
Kerry Rhodes
Frank Sanders
Rashad Johnson
Justin Bethel
Cut:
Eddie Elder
Blake Gideon
Special Teams:
One thing here. Can we stop the ridiculousness that is, "Take Patrick Peterson off punt return.". Uh, NO. Best offensive weapon we have until, we find a QB that consistently throw the ball to Fitzgerald, and we want to take him out of the game ? No. Sorry. Dumb move, ultra-conservative thinking to the point of hurting your team.
ST - Final Roster:
K: Jay Feely
P: Dave Zastudil
LS: Mike Leach
PR: Peterson, Roberts
KR: LSH, Powell, Jefferson
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