Post Texans Overreaction Thread

[Stout]

Nothing poor about it. I just see past this hypocrisy. It’s okay until he does then it’s not until he doesn’t. Flirting with both sides is hilarious.

I'd ask if you have reading comprehension problems, but I know it's just blatantly trolling me because you don't like me. But, to be clear:

Sliding short of the first down when you don't have to is not equal to lowering your head into a solid wall of defenders.

M'kay? Care to distort that? Pretend it's hypocrisy? Nah, you won't engage in actual discussion. You're incapable of that with me.

 

[DVontel]

I'd ask if you have reading comprehension problems, but I know it's just blatantly trolling me because you don't like me. But, to be clear:

You know it’s not trolling. It has nothing to do with liking you or not. You’re just furious I call out your questionable posts & you don’t have a valid reasoning for them.

Sliding short of the first down when you don't have to is not equal to lowering your head into a solid wall of defenders.

…..they go hand-in-hand my guy. Either you want him to get that extra yard or not.

M'kay? Care to distort that? Pretend it's hypocrisy? Nah, you won't engage in actual discussion. You're incapable of that with me.

I engage in actual discussion with you all the time. You just take it down another route because I question your questionable posts & you don’t like that even though you recognize it sounds ridiculous at the end. Stop resorting to say people are trolling when they realize you made a questionable post. Not that hard.

 

[cardpa]

Agree. I’m not saying we are tanking, but it sure looks like Gannon is more interested in evaluation than he is of actually winning. You NEVER go for two until you have to go for two. If not for Gannon being stupid, we would have been lining up for a game winning FG as the clock expired.

Gannon was just having a James Franklin moment.

 

[PACardsFan]

Gannon was just having a James Franklin moment.

Hopefully it’s only a MOMENT, because Franklin is way over his head at PSU. Franklin belongs at a much smaller venue for sure.

 

[Arz101]

Murray cannot be moved for next 2 years. Why not trade/release all the 5-x receivers and get a better cast around Murray. Murray and this 5-x receiver cast is cooked.

 

[DVontel]

One thing that sticks out to me is why did Barnes purposely run into the OL on that INT when he had the angle for the Pick 6. Good job on even INT the ball, but man that still confuses me going into this morning.

 

[kerouac9]

1) We scored nine points in the last 58:28 of this football game. Yikes! I get the mindset that you don't win kicking field goals on the road, but you also hand back a ton of momentum. Winning is not a priority right now, so I guess you try and win in the most high-variance way possible.

2) Greg Dortch with eight targets (!!!!); Trey McBride with seven. Marquise Brown with five. So that seems to be going well.

3) I think that Marco Wilson gets some undeserved criticism because I think we're playing a lot of cover-3. It looks like he should be manned up on the receiver, but he's expecting help coming to the inside. He's still been freaking awful and it's time someone starts asking JG about it.

4) It'll be interesting to see if BJ Ojulari keeps his extremely sus "sack" through the end of the week. Take away the sack designation (it was on a WR on an end around who showed he might pass for a sec but was pretty clearly a runner). and he had one tackle.

5) Greg Dortch out-snapped Rondale Moore! LOL! LIGHT THE DAMN DORTCH!

 

[Arz101]

Murray needs his

One thing that sticks out to me is why did Barnes purposely run into the OL on that INT when he had the angle for the Pick 6. Good job on even INT the ball, but man that still confuses me going into this morning.

Of all the issues with offense, why blame the intercepting guy for not returning 99 yards TD in traffic?

 

[Arz101]

1) We scored nine points in the last 58:28 of this football game. Yikes! I get the mindset that you don't win kicking field goals on the road, but you also hand back a ton of momentum. Winning is not a priority right now, so I guess you try and win in the most high-variance way possible.

2) Greg Dortch with eight targets (!!!!); Trey McBride with seven. Marquise Brown with five. So that seems to be going well.

3) I think that Marco Wilson gets some undeserved criticism because I think we're playing a lot of cover-3. It looks like he should be manned up on the receiver, but he's expecting help coming to the inside. He's still been freaking awful and it's time someone starts asking JG about it.

4) It'll be interesting to see if BJ Ojulari keeps his extremely sus "sack" through the end of the week. Take away the sack designation (it was on a WR on an end around who showed he might pass for a sec but was pretty clearly a runner). and he had one tackle.

5) Greg Dortch out-snapped Rondale Moore! LOL! LIGHT THE DAMN DORTCH!

How long do we dance around this pathetic WR core?


If Murray is insisting on keeping Hollywood, you gotta let Murray know he doesn't get to keep his friends on the field and it is a team decision.

 

[Arz101]

Keep Murray , Conner, PJJ, McBride, Wilson as key players for next two years. Get MHJ as WR#1. Sign a tall Tyler Boyd like WR as #3.

 

[Stout]

You know it’s not trolling. It has nothing to do with liking you or not. You’re just furious I call out your questionable posts & you don’t have a valid reasoning for them.

…..they go hand-in-hand my guy. Either you want him to get that extra yard or not.

I engage in actual discussion with you all the time. You just take it down another route because I question your questionable posts & you don’t like that even though you recognize it sounds ridiculous at the end. Stop resorting to say people are trolling when they realize you made a questionable post. Not that hard.

lol They do not. Getting a first down without taking a shot does, in no world, equate to throwing yourself into the meat grinder. You can keep saying it all you want, but it doesn't make it true.

You don't engage me in discussion. You think you're the sole arbiter of what is true or not between us and make dumb assertions about what I supposedly mean. See above.

So when you do this, I'm either supposed to meekly admit you're right or supposedly be argumentative and unreasonable? In other words, every time we interact, you're the only one in the right and I'm always the one in the wrong? Nice try, my guy.

 

[Stout]

Funny thing is, you're the one who sought me out. I'm thinking maybe you like the drama?

 

[DVontel]

Murray needs his


Of all the issues with offense, why blame the intercepting guy for not returning 99 yards TD in traffic?

You know I clearly didn’t do this, but I know how you are so you won’t get another response out of me.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

lMy random overreactions:

#1. From launch angles to 2 point coversions, analytics frustrate me to no end in regards to sports. We see players and managers repeatedly taking the 53% of outcomes in a vacuum side of things but that vacuum doesn't exist.

The moment you miss one of these gambles on points, you spend the whole game chasing it. The analytics don't account for your oline not being able to block, the scheme the defenses are doing, or your QB's status coming back from injury.

#2. Kyler has clearly heard his critics and is going to reinjure himself trying to rewrite that narrative. He is throwing his body around with reckless abandon.

#3. I was two weeks off on the preseason narrative but beyond that I nailed that Kyler comes back and wins his first game back and then just struggles with timing in game 2. What I didn't predict was Kyler short arming the deep throws, something that was never an issue pre injury. He's just not comfortable with his feet yet. It doesn't help he couldn't complete a 5 step drop without being obliterated.

#4 Speaking of being obliterated, the line play on both sides are exactly what many predicted in the off season. If Kyler Murray or James Connor don't make an amazing play out of dog poop, then the offense struggles. The defense just gives up big runs and long drives and is completely reliant on the offense making mistakes.

What ends up happening is nothing looks routine. It's wow or ow.

#5. Yet another woulda coulda game.

CBS flashed a graphic of the worst 4th quarter teams and there we were, #4. When you are a bottom 5 team in 4th quarter point differential, every game is a woulda coulda.

i would kill for an easy game.

“It’s wow or ow” is like the definition of kylers career. It’s what separates him for top echelon. Consistency.

In the gameday threads I’m frustrated. No one LIKES losing. But I’m frustrated more by the why we are losing than the losses themselves. Poor coaching decisions are one reason. Hopefully that’s a learning curve for a first year staff. And kylers inconsistency (through a whopping 2 games) is potentially another.

That said, we are getting what a lot of us wanted - competitive games and piling up losses. If kyler shows improvement and we continue to lose close games I’m good with it. I don’t need the easy game . . . this year.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

“It’s wow or ow” is like the definition of kylers career. It’s what separates him for top echelon. Consistency.

In the gameday threads I’m frustrated. No one LIKES losing. But I’m frustrated more by the why we are losing than the losses themselves. Poor coaching decisions are one reason. Hopefully that’s a learning curve for a first year staff. And kylers inconsistency (through a whopping 2 games) is potentially another.

That said, we are getting what a lot of us wanted - competitive games and piling up losses. If kyler shows improvement and we continue to lose close games I’m good with it. I don’t need the easy game . . . this year.

2 weeks til Cardinals @ Steelers. I won't get it but I would love for that to be a big Cards win.

 

[kerouac9]

How long do we dance around this pathetic WR core?


If Murray is insisting on keeping Hollywood, you gotta let Murray know he doesn't get to keep his friends on the field and it is a team decision.

We were missing two of our top 4 receivers. I still have faith in Michael Wilson, and Zach Pascal isn't a total stiff (maybe). With $21 million in dead money sitting out there with DHop's name on it, I forgive them for not investing more in the WR room this season.

Do not get Hollywood Brown being so bad this year. I expected him to feast and it didn't happen.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You know it’s not trolling. It has nothing to do with liking you or not. You’re just furious I call out your questionable posts & you don’t have a valid reasoning for them.

…..they go hand-in-hand my guy. Either you want him to get that extra yard or not.

I engage in actual discussion with you all the time. You just take it down another route because I question your questionable posts & you don’t like that even though you recognize it sounds ridiculous at the end. Stop resorting to say people are trolling when they realize you made a questionable post. Not that hard.

It’s not this black and white. It’s not slide early or bash your body into a defender. You know this.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

We were missing two of our top 4 receivers. I still have faith in Michael Wilson, and Zach Pascal isn't a total stiff (maybe). With $21 million in dead money sitting out there with DHop's name on it, I forgive them for not investing more in the WR room this season.

Do not get Hollywood Brown being so bad this year. I expected him to feast and it didn't happen.

Dude paschal is a total stiff. I don’t know how anyone could make a reasonable argument otherwise.

 

[kerouac9]

Dude paschal is a total stiff. I don’t know how anyone could make a reasonable argument otherwise.

That's fair! I just don't think we've seen enough of him to completely make that determination. He's played just 129 offensive snaps and had 11 targets this season. Blecch.

I remember thinking he could play the A.J. Green role in this offense when we signed him. I guess that Zero on his jersey represents the value he adds to the offense.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's fair! I just don't think we've seen enough of him to completely make that determination. He's played just 129 offensive snaps and had 11 targets this season. Blecch.

I remember thinking he could play the A.J. Green role in this offense when we signed him. I guess that Zero on his jersey represents the value he adds to the offense.

Yeah, he didn’t do himself any favors with his number choice.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

That's fair! I just don't think we've seen enough of him to completely make that determination. He's played just 129 offensive snaps and had 11 targets this season. Blecch.

I remember thinking he could play the A.J. Green role in this offense when we signed him. I guess that Zero on his jersey represents the value he adds to the offense.

There is a reason he was available for basically the minimum.

 

[Arz101]

You know I clearly didn’t do this, but I know how you are so you won’t get another response out of me.

You make it personal pal. I may be negative John Doe but why make it personal?

 

[Chopper0080]

lMy random overreactions:

#1. From launch angles to 2 point coversions, analytics frustrate me to no end in regards to sports. We see players and managers repeatedly taking the 53% of outcomes in a vacuum side of things but that vacuum doesn't exist.

The moment you miss one of these gambles on points, you spend the whole game chasing it. The analytics don't account for your oline not being able to block, the scheme the defenses are doing, or your QB's status coming back from injury.

#2. Kyler has clearly heard his critics and is going to reinjure himself trying to rewrite that narrative. He is throwing his body around with reckless abandon.

#3. I was two weeks off on the preseason narrative but beyond that I nailed that Kyler comes back and wins his first game back and then just struggles with timing in game 2. What I didn't predict was Kyler short arming the deep throws, something that was never an issue pre injury. He's just not comfortable with his feet yet. It doesn't help he couldn't complete a 5 step drop without being obliterated.

#4 Speaking of being obliterated, the line play on both sides are exactly what many predicted in the off season. If Kyler Murray or James Connor don't make an amazing play out of dog poop, then the offense struggles. The defense just gives up big runs and long drives and is completely reliant on the offense making mistakes.

What ends up happening is nothing looks routine. It's wow or ow.

#5. Yet another woulda coulda game.

CBS flashed a graphic of the worst 4th quarter teams and there we were, #4. When you are a bottom 5 team in 4th quarter point differential, every game is a woulda coulda.

i would kill for an easy game.

Disagree a bit on the line. Either Kyler still isn't comfortable throwing with anticipation or WRs can't get open, but there were several times he seemed to be unable to get the ball out and took hits. Based on some of his throws, the evidence leans to him either being late on his reads or not trusting them. The other possibility is that he still can't read NFL defenses but I am not ready to go there yet.

 

[Chopper0080]

How long do we dance around this pathetic WR core?


If Murray is insisting on keeping Hollywood, you gotta let Murray know he doesn't get to keep his friends on the field and it is a team decision.

Yeah...we need to get Kyler a lit receiving group like Nico Collins, Robert Woods, Tank Dell, and Noah Brown.

Come on dude. A lot of today was on the QB. Even Brown, who I consistently criticize, got hosed by his QB twice.

 

[Arz101]

Yeah...we need to get Kyler a lit receiving group like Nico Collins, Robert Woods, Tank Dell, and Noah Brown.

Come on dude. A lot of today was on the QB. Even Brown, who I consistently criticize, got hosed by his QB twice.

Chopper, I am not saying Murray is THE savior. Murray is the best bet for next two years. Let's upgrade his cast to an extent where we can knock on the NFC championship game before Murray's legs give up on him.

Either that or starting over with a rookie QB. I don't want to bet on another rookie with a third or fourth pick.