I don't believe there is starting cast you could assemble in the next two years to win two consecutive playoff games with Kyler playing like this. My hope is that he gets significantly better over the rest of the year. If not, better to bite the bullet and move on.
Man, another rebuild and multiple years added on to our window of contention would be a pretty tough pill to swallow.
It would be awful, but sticking with the Kyler we saw vs Houston would be worse. There is just no future with that level of QB play. But, we have 6 more games to hopefully see Kyler play at a higher level.
Yeah - lots of 2022 vibes yesterday which was definitely concerning. If Kyler ain't it, we're in for a long stretch of hard to watch football. Look at all the rest of the teams without a QB in the NFL - utterly hopeless and borderline unwatchable.
its not "another" rebuild...its the same one... Trading Kyler nets us one season in cap hell followed by three seasons on cost controlled rookie QB deal.
I didn't have a problem with the 2 pts myself. That was the right call. But passing on the FG on the 4th and 5 was dumb. You need two FGs for the lead, not two touchdowns. I know this is the trend in coaching and lots of others would have done it. But we are more likely to kick FGs than score TDs. That deserves to be second guessed.
This is where I reside. Rebuilds suck. But they are also more interesting than sitting in Jeff Fischerland. If Murray is the guy we saw in successive weeks through the end of this season, this far into his career, I think I’d enjoy the unknown future of a full rebuild to the herky jerky make the playoffs once every 3-4 years and bow out in the first round that mid murray would bring.
As much as I see warning lights on the last paragraph I’m not adverse to it.
Numbers are great until you watch the game and seem him underthrow a couple TDs and unnecessary rush a crucial third down pass among his other clock management foibles that don’t show in those numbers.
i didnt like it given how much time was left--13+ minutes
I'd rather have a QB who can go better than 3-9 on third-down plays than one who can make the exceptional play from time to time.
People act like it's easy to find a decent QB in the draft. It's obviously not. Stroud's passer rating in that game was 85. And he didn't make plays with his legs like Kyler. I went through the box scores yesterday, and Murray and Stroud were smack dab in the middle of the league in QB rating yesterday. Nine did better, nine did worse. (Purdy was 158 and the Giants kid had 137.)
How many starting NFL QBs can miss HORRIBLY on easy passes over the middle to McBride and Higgins, while having a clean pocket, both of whom were wide open for big gains? How many starting QBs STILL have problems getting plays off, even though that hasn’t been a problem all season?
I'm willing to consider the "didn't have off-season and didn't have camp" as reasons for some of this.
this is the confounding thing
There is a LOT of bad QB play in the NFL. This is why the McCown's, Gabberts, McCoy, Dobbs, etc, etc, etc hang around forever and get multiple opportunities to be the guy before moving into permanent journeyman role. Which, even then, from the lack of QBs coming out of college who can hack it at all, they have steady employment.
That was one of the worst passes he has ever thrown. To me, it looked like one of those where a QB at the very last second doesn't want to throw it and tries to hold on to it. But, too late. Has Kyler been asked about it?
Sandy eggs drafting Rivers motivated Brees to hire a personal QB coach in the off season... dude came in and was lights out during Rivers rookie season until that shoulder injury...they let him go... Rivers was solid for the bolts and Brees is going to Canton.
You came up with better examples, so thank you.
Problem is he’s not being paid to be “just fine.” And I’m not sure if you meant the Prescott comment to be more of a back-handed complement to Kyler, but it is.
We can sit here and dog on Dak Prescott and Kyler Murray all we want. But there is a reason they have monster contracts. The NFL is QB poor. Dak's cap number next year is like 59 million. The supply of QBs is so poor, that anyone who has proven to have talent and can take teams to the playoffs is going to get paid outrageously.
Get ready to duck! Lol. Seems you can’t state anything that leans toward a potential Murray shortcoming.
