Pre-Season Week 1 vs Broncos Post Game Sound Off

[BritCard]

Sorry man, but it's the first preseason game and a game where we had 3 points going into the 4th quarter. If that's not false hope, what is?

I'm sure had we lost by 10 you would be saying "It's only preseason. It means nothing".

 

[Krangodnzr]

I get you, and this is sensible. I've been reading a lot of "it looks like we really have a defense!" and "great to see the offensive firepower" kinds of comments, which is really dumb logic. But I'm not trying to insult posters by labeling them such individually because false hope is perfectly understandable with this team. It just gets out of hand right out of the gate in the preseason. Just a general comment on that rather than being mean-spirited to other posters, quibbling over stuff not worth quibbling over, etc.

I've moved on from letting this team get me down. It's a form of entertainment. Let it entertain.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I do and I am. Even if it i was only game, this is MUCH better than our historical average.

The team had 4 games last year where they had 4 or fewer penalties. That included an average of about 4 per game in the preseason last year.

You are also comparing the "historical average" to one preseason game. Let's see if this is something that continues the rest of the preseason and into the regular season before we go praising them like they are doing something special.

 

[CardsFan88]

I’ll add this ESPN article to help understand the ground up approach of Gannon

How Jonathan Gannon has brought 'culture shock' to Cardinals — ESPN

The new regime has emphasized how to "behave as a team," focusing on once-overlooked details they hope will make a difference on the field.

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Now I know why he was hired. It was music to MB's ears when he heard the plan included fines. Fines are like coupons for owners.

I got a chuckle about People’s excitement over the defensive line. I just had to shake my head. Who knows, maybe I’ll be waaay wrong. It’s happened before. But I ain’t falling for that banana in the tailpipe after the first preseason game with Fotu and the Replacement.

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[dreamcastrocks]

The team had 4 games last year where they had 4 or fewer penalties. That included an average of about 4 per game in the preseason last year.

You are also comparing the "historical average" to one preseason game. Let's see if this is something that continues the rest of the preseason and into the regular season before we go praising them like they are doing something special.

This type of logic is weird to me. Why should I not be excited that in THIS GAME, they allowed only 4 penalties? I'm sure that they will average more than 4 throughout the rest of the year. The topic that I was commenting on, was about reasons for HOPE. Only committing 4 penalties is a reason to be hopeful, right?

Besides, if we would have committed 10 penalties, then we would be the Same Ol' Cards.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I wouldn't read too far into that. There were a lot of teams that only had like 4-5 penalties in preseason last week.

Of course 4 is a good number, but we could have a had a crew that was giving the players a good amount of leeway.

The Cardinals led the NFL with an average of 7 penalties per game last year. They also had a league high average of 3 pre snap penalties per game last season.

 

[perivolaki]

They were. Antonio Hamilton had the PI late in the game, and I can't remember the 4th.

Didn't they have an illegal formation or something?

 

[MadCardDisease]

I'm sure had we lost by 10 you would be saying "It's only preseason. It means nothing".

The score in a preseason game does mean nothing IMO.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Didn't they have an illegal formation or something?

That's right. 47 was covered up. I didn't re-watch that play to see if he was or not. Good memory.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Ronin]

Joanna Cards Fan​ ⁦‪@cardsfanjoanna‬⁩​ You must be registered for see images attach You must be registered for see images The Arizona Cardinals were able to pressure Russell Wilson on 64% of his drop backs on Sunday, the most pressure applied to ANY quarterback over the weekend. Much of this pressure was applied by Cardinals 2nd stringers against Denver’s 1st stringers (Source ⁦‪@SharpFootball‬⁩)

 

[Stout]

I'm sure had we lost by 10 you would be saying "It's only preseason. It means nothing".

Absolutely, because it does mean literally nothing. I'm not going to get into an argument with you, though. I was only pointing out the silliness one time and not specifically to any poster, because they need all the hopium they can get.

 

[cardncubfan]

I get you, and this is sensible. I've been reading a lot of "it looks like we really have a defense!" and "great to see the offensive firepower" kinds of comments, which is really dumb logic. But I'm not trying to insult posters by labeling them such individually because false hope is perfectly understandable with this team. It just gets out of hand right out of the gate in the preseason. Just a general comment on that rather than being mean-spirited to other posters, quibbling over stuff not worth quibbling over, etc.

I wouldn't go as far to say ''it looks like we really have a defense!'' but I will say I believe our defense will be better than most are expecting.

 

[QuebecCard]

I'm sure had we lost by 10 you would be saying "It's only preseason. It means nothing".

- Nah, it would be another brick in his 'it's a disaster' theme.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

This type of logic is weird to me. Why should I not be excited that in THIS GAME, they allowed only 4 penalties? I'm sure that they will average more than 4 throughout the rest of the year. The topic that I was commenting on, was about reasons for HOPE. Only committing 4 penalties is a reason to be hopeful, right?

Besides, if we would have committed 10 penalties, then we would be the Same Ol' Cards.

Because it is one preseason game that can not be said is indicative of who the team is now.

Like I said the team averaged 4 penalties per game in last year's preseason and yet they were very poor in that department in the regular season.

That might suggest that preseason penalty numbers are not indicative of what the regular season penalty numbers will be.

Ultimately you can feel free to be excited about anything you want, I am just pointing out that while it is a good number it's not like we can use that number to assume anything about who this team is at the moment.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Because it is one preseason game that can not be said is indicative of who the team is now.

Like I said the team averaged 4 penalties per game in last year's preseason and yet they were very poor in that department in the regular season.

That might suggest that preseason penalty numbers are not indicative of what the regular season penalty numbers will be.

Ultimately you can feel free to be excited about anything you want, I am just pointing out that while it is a good number it's not like we can use that number to assume anything about who this team is at the moment.

Since you brought up assuming, how many people assumed we would go in and Denver would walk all over us? Especially on the defensive line. And yet it was our 2nd string that really put it to the 1st string of Denver. Something, almost nobody here would have thought would happen. Do I expect that to happen next week against KC, nope.

It's perfectly okay to be happy in the moment, because of the moment.

 

[BritCard]

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[gimpy]

"It's perfectly okay to be happy in the moment, because of the moment."

Yes, it is. After all, this is the ARIZONA SPORTS FAN forum. That's what I come here for. To root for, and back, my ARIZONA teams.

 

[CardNots]

​ ​ Joanna Cards Fan​ ⁦‪@cardsfanjoanna‬⁩​ You must be registered for see images attach You must be registered for see images The Arizona Cardinals were able to pressure Russell Wilson on 64% of his drop backs on Sunday, the most pressure applied to ANY quarterback over the weekend. Much of this pressure was applied by Cardinals 2nd stringers against Denver’s 1st stringers (Source ⁦‪@SharpFootball‬⁩)

Not to mention the batted balls. I can’t say I saw much of that from last year’s team. I believe that is a coaching thing.

 

[Ronin]

- Nah, it would be another brick in his 'it's a disaster' theme.

If you don’t like what he has to say, you can always put him on ignore. There is no need to gang up on someone, because of their opinion.

 

[SECTION 11]

Anyone have the clip of Foholdtfot throwing Zach Allen?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Anyone have the clip of Foholdtfot throwing Zach Allen?

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[RON_IN_OC]

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Dude is strong as an ox...and I think much quicker than we thought.

 

[SECTION 11]

That is hilarious