Pre-Season Week 1 vs Broncos Post Game Sound Off

[Krangodnzr]

Absolutely, because it does mean literally nothing. I'm not going to get into an argument with you, though. I was only pointing out the silliness one time and not specifically to any poster, because they need all the hopium they can get.

I wouldn't say it means nothing.

We saw better game management. With backups and scrubs, we watched a really well executed 2 minute drill.

It seemed like the guys were playing really hard. Froholdt legitimately looked real good, crushing opponents. It was a lot more positive than negative.

This game doesn't change the calculus for how I view the team overall, but it does show that some progress is being made.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I would love for Froholdt to be a solid starting C for the Cardinals ala Sendlein. Would be a great feather in the cap for Monti and Gannon. Would be very happy if they proved me wrong there.

I would probably give Petzing credit since he likely gave the Intel on Froholdt. These type of signings can be a boon since the Cardinals locked him in for two years.

 

[Chopper0080]

I wouldn't say it means nothing.

We saw better game management. With backups and scrubs, we watched a really well executed 2 minute drill.

It seemed like the guys were playing really hard. Froholdt legitimately looked real good, crushing opponents. It was a lot more positive than negative.

This game doesn't change the calculus for how I view the team overall, but it does show that some progress is being made.

This statement is kinda how I feel. Game 1 of preseason isn't changing my view of the team. That said, I enjoy watching games where teams execute 2 min drills and play penalty/mistake free (or at least limited). Not being an embarrassment isn't the barometer of achievement I want the Cardinals to be measured by, but it is a nice start.

 

[MadCardDisease]

This statement is kinda how I feel. Game 1 of preseason isn't changing my view of the team. That said, I enjoy watching games where teams execute 2 min drills and play penalty/mistake free (or at least limited). Not being an embarrassment isn't the barometer of achievement I want the Cardinals to be measured by, but it is a nice start.

You have to start somewhere. This team is seeing it's first action after undergoing a complete gut job in the offseason. This was our first opportunity to see a lot of the young players brought in by a Rookie GM. It was the first opportunity to see a Rookie HC, Rookie OC and Rookie DC call plays and manage a game. So I take the Preseason week 1 as a starting baseline to judge this young team.

Preseason week 1 the coaching staff looked competent.

The team as a hole looked prepared and didn't make a ton of mental errors that we have seen in the past.

Several of the young rookies won their one on one battles and showed a bunch of promise.

Several of the FAs brought in by Monti also looked solid.


So now we look to Preseason week 2 against the defending SB champs. This obviously will be a much bigger test for the young Cardinals team. What I'm looking for here is a team that continues to play disciplined. The Defensive front 6-7 looked a lot better than I expected against the Broncos. Can they continue to play smart and maintain gap integrity against an elite OL? I'd like to see a bunch of improvement with the second string OL as the OL depth seems suspect. I'd like to see one of the young RBs step up and claim the #2 RB spot.

 

[Krangodnzr]

This statement is kinda how I feel. Game 1 of preseason isn't changing my view of the team. That said, I enjoy watching games where teams execute 2 min drills and play penalty/mistake free (or at least limited). Not being an embarrassment isn't the barometer of achievement I want the Cardinals to be measured by, but it is a nice start.

By the end of last, heck most of last season, the Cardinals were an absolute embarrassment.

Kliff lost the team and pile on injuries, and guys were just mostly going through the motions.

At least last Friday, it looked like the players cared. Is that going to hold when the losses start mounting? Who knows.

 

[CardNots]

You have to start somewhere. This team is seeing it's first action after undergoing a complete gut job in the offseason. This was our first opportunity to see a lot of the young players brought in by a Rookie GM. It was the first opportunity to see a Rookie HC, Rookie OC and Rookie DC call plays and manage a game. So I take the Preseason week 1 as a starting baseline to judge this young team.

Preseason week 1 the coaching staff looked competent.

The team as a hole looked prepared and didn't make a ton of mental errors that we have seen in the past.

Several of the young rookies won their one on one battles and showed a bunch of promise.

Several of the FAs brought in by Monti also looked solid.


So now we look to Preseason week 2 against the defending SB champs. This obviously will be a much bigger test for the young Cardinals team. What I'm looking for here is a team that continues to play disciplined. The Defensive front 6-7 looked a lot better than I expected against the Broncos. Can they continue to play smart and maintain gap integrity against an elite OL? I'd like to see a bunch of improvement with the second string OL as the OL depth seems suspect. I'd like to see one of the young RBs step up and claim the #2 RB spot.

Didn’t Williams pick up the bulk of his rushing yards behind the second string OL or was that the 3rd string?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The social media ******** is kind of surprising to me. Talk about low hanging fruit... People are so simple these days. Zinger content to make the lowest forms of humanity yuk it up for 5 seconds before doom scolling onto the next mean spirited slag. Read a book.

Have you used social media in the past 15 years? A quick laugh is what most of it is all about. Or spreading lies.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I would love for Froholdt to be a solid starting C for the Cardinals ala Sendlein. Would be a great feather in the cap for Monti and Gannon. Would be very happy if they proved me wrong there.

I already like what I see from Froholdt, more than I ever saw from Sendlein.

 

[jf-08]

I'm impressed at the discipline and execution for a total N00B outfit - I mean, totally new O, D, and personnel and they didn't shoot themselves in the crotch.

 

[Ronin]

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[RON_IN_OC]

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Kliff would have had a deer in headlights look and response to a question like that.

 

[CFLredzoned]

I have to admit, that was impressive. Please let him be a diamond in the rough.

Yeah Zach took some abuse. First the Froholdt choke slam. Then Will doing the old I'm going to pull you in real tight then mow you over because I'm 350 lbs and you're not.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

At least last Friday, it looked like the players cared. Is that going to hold when the losses start mounting? Who knows.

Yeah I keep thinking of the famous quote from Mike Tyson. "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

Things are changing, that's true, but we've yet to see the new group face adversity, which is surely on it's way, and the results will be telling.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Yeah I keep thinking of the famous quote from Mike Tyson. "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

Things are changing, that's true, but we've yet to see the new group face adversity, which is surely on it's way, and the results will be telling.

"I tell this story to illustrate the truth of the statement I heard long ago in the Army: Plans are worthless, but planning is everything."
Remarks at the National Defense Executive Reserve Conference, 11/14/57

I'm a big believer in this statement. A good plan isn't really going to work, but a good plan also plans for contingencies. How does this relate to football? Look at the overall discipline that you see on the field.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I haven’t read thru this thread but my respond is
Matt Barkley went 14-15 with 2 TDs over the weekend.

That should tell you all you need to know about the preseason.

 

[Stout]

I already like what I see from Froholdt, more than I ever saw from Sendlein.

Um, what? From training camp and a single preseason game?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Um, what? From training camp and a single preseason game?

Yep. I didn't see Sendlein flatten one lineman in all of my time watching him. Granted I'll admit that I was probably wearing some hate glasses.

Let alone a lineman that most of us wanted to keep as a young building block.

 

[Stout]

Yep. I didn't see Sendlein flatten one lineman in all of my time watching him. Granted I'll admit that I was probably wearing some hate glasses.

Let alone a lineman that most of us wanted to keep as a young building block.

Nah, the hopium isn't going crazy around here lol I mean, I love ya, DCR, and I wasn't a big Sendlein fan, but you've seen enough from one preseason game to see that Frodo is better than a long-running starter and playoff starter?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Nah, the hopium isn't going crazy around here lol I mean, I love ya, DCR, and I wasn't a big Sendlein fan, but you've seen enough from one preseason game to see that Frodo is better than a long-running starter and playoff starter?

How about I rephrase...

I see more of a mean streak and toughness than I ever saw from Sendlein.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I wouldn't say it means nothing.

We saw better game management. With backups and scrubs, we watched a really well executed 2 minute drill.

It seemed like the guys were playing really hard. Froholdt legitimately looked real good, crushing opponents. It was a lot more positive than negative.

This game doesn't change the calculus for how I view the team overall, but it does show that some progress is being made.

Exactly but these are things you don't see when you don't watch the game and just read the box score.

 

[BritCard]

How about I rephrase...

I see more of a mean streak and toughness than I ever saw from Sendlein.

Sendlein never did this. Froholdt wins.

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[Stout]

How about I rephrase...

I see more of a mean streak and toughness than I ever saw from Sendlein.

I getcha

 

[Goldfield]

- Nah, it would be another brick in his 'it's a disaster' theme.

Hey Stouts been on good behavior lately!

 

[Stout]

Hey Stouts been on good behavior lately!

Indubes. We're going to have enough to complain about during the season. No reason to harsh the buzz right now

 

[QuebecCard]

Hey Stouts been on good behavior lately!