Predict which free agents the Suns sign

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Hayward's performance last year was way below what you expect from a max player. Horny's endorsement is the only thing he had going for him, IMO, and its not enough for me. Chandler Parson's performance was much more impressive but paying him double or triple what PJ will get doesn't get me excited either.


Whats necessary is to fix the rebounding at PF - Markieff is better than Frye but he's still substanially subpar and his defence is worse than Frye's.

I see no way Hayward or Parson's get max money. Upgrade at PF is a big need. But only good players at that position are joing to be available via trade.
 

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I see no way Hayward or Parson's get max money. Upgrade at PF is a big need. But only good players at that position are joing to be available via trade.

I think we're going to see a run on max or near max players this off season. There are ten teams with at least 15 million in space and a bunch more that can make a move or two to join that group. That's the kind of environment that lends to bidding wars. There is money to spend and someone is going to get overpaid. Several someones. Probably including our coveted free agent.

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OK. I predict LeBron.

I am going to quit thinking emotionally and just predict the thing that would be the wisest choice for LeBron AND the Suns and believe that they parties involved are also smart enough to come to the same conclusion.
 

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Deng

Gasol

Ugh, I hope we don't go in this direction. The team made major strides last season but they shouldn't regard themselves as contenders needing that final piece. That's the type of presence that Deng and Gasol bring and will get in the way of developing our players (Len being the one I care about affecting most).
 

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Ugh, I hope we don't go in this direction. The team made major strides last season but they shouldn't regard themselves as contenders needing that final piece. That's the type of presence that Deng and Gasol bring and will get in the way of developing our players (Len being the one I care about affecting most).

i just have a feeling that McD might want to add some veteran presence and some people who are proven to be consistent.
 

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i just have a feeling that McD might want to add some veteran presence and some people who are proven to be consistent.

Fair enough. Also, I thought Deng was older than he actually was. I thought he was 32 or 33 but turns out he's still only 29. He does have some mileage but still has some game left in him.

I could be talked into it, but would likely mean the end of Tucker's tenure here.
 

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If we get Lebron then adding aging, proven talent makes sense because we're going for all the marbles but without him I'd much prefer patching the hole at PF with some one younger and depend on the young guys - Len and Goodwin in particular but maybe Warren and/or Ennis as well. I'll put Ish on that list, too, though he's not that young. Hornacek screwed up some last year not depending in Ish until late in the season - he should have played him more early on and given Dragic and Bled fewer minutes at higher intensity.
 

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If we get Lebron then adding aging, proven talent makes sense because we're going for all the marbles but without him I'd much prefer patching the hole at PF with some one younger and depend on the young guys - Len and Goodwin in particular but maybe Warren and/or Ennis as well. I'll put Ish on that list, too, though he's not that young. Hornacek screwed up some last year not depending in Ish until late in the season - he should have played him more early on and given Dragic and Bled fewer minutes at higher intensity.

I don't care much for Ish other than spot duty every now and then, but outside of that, I completely agree with your post. The worst thing the Suns can do is sign veteran non-all star players. Don't get me wrong, I like Deng a lot, but he doesn't do much more for the Suns than PJ, and he'd cost 2-3 times as much.

The only exception would be Pau Gasol, and that's a very special case. Suns are very thin at PF position, and they have nobody who can score in the low post. I also think the Suns medical staff could work wonders to prolong his career. I can see him returning to his all-star form. I can see the Suns getting out of the first round with Gasol, which may be enough to get some interest from future free agents.
 

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If we lose out on the Lebron sweepstakes, I hope we take a Cards approach, and sign a couple of guys to prove it deals - short term to see if they're a fit, and want to get paid.

Boozer and Stephenson? Both fill major needs and on short term reasonable deals could be worth it.
 

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Boozer and Stephenson? Both fill major needs and on short term reasonable deals could be worth it.

Well, Boozer, anyway. The Suns already have a lot of wings and I don't see Stephenson as a major upgrade.

I'm surprised that Boozer isn't being discussed more. He has a poor reputation, I guess, but the Bulls are paying most of his salary this season, so he might come cheap if he thinks the situation could springboard him to his next contract. I'd rather have him than Pau Gasol, anyway; Boozer is about a year and a half younger.
 

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Well, Boozer, anyway. The Suns already have a lot of wings and I don't see Stephenson as a major upgrade.

I'm surprised that Boozer isn't being discussed more. He has a poor reputation, I guess, but the Bulls are paying most of his salary this season, so he might come cheap if he thinks the situation could springboard him to his next contract. I'd rather have him than Pau Gasol, anyway; Boozer is about a year and a half younger.

We have a lot of PG/SG...in terms of SF, it's what, Marcus Morris and Warren? (Maybe Tucker?) Stephenson is not without his warts, but unlike the rest of those guys he can create his own shot, is very good defensively, and is only 23. For 7-8 mil per year, I'd at least consider it, the Suns could use a little attitude.
 

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You said it. JC's sleight of hand. He was the GM. That was his job.

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LeBron. He was the player. It's not his place to put a team together.
Especially while playing on another team and recruiting a player from
yet another team. That is the difference! Did Chamberlain ever do
that? Or Russell ever do that? Or Michael ever do that? Or AC Green
or Danny Manning?

No because those players were treated like property. They had no ability to go to another team or throw their weight around. I like what the 3 players did in Miami. When my contract is up I can wherever I want why should it be any different for them. And if I'm REALLY good at what I do you can bet a company will let me have input into decision making.

Lebron is the best player in the world. He's an instant game changer. Having him on your team means $100+ million in additional revenue. Why shouldn't he have a seat at the table.
 

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We have a lot of PG/SG...in terms of SF, it's what, Marcus Morris and Warren? (Maybe Tucker?) Stephenson is not without his warts, but unlike the rest of those guys he can create his own shot, is very good defensively, and is only 23. For 7-8 mil per year, I'd at least consider it.

He's an incredible talent but I wouldn't touch him. It's not always easy to predict what the chemistry of a group will be from year to year. But with Stephenson, you wouldn't even have to wonder. You'd know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they'd be at each other's throats in a year or two. And Green can play small forward too so I think we're covered at that position.

Note that I'm not saying to pass on him because I only want a team filled with nice guys. I say pass on him because I want us to win. Even with Larry Bird mentoring him the guy has been a problem on that team. He's such a dominant personality I think he'd eat our guys alive. He's selfish, frequently uncoachable and incredibly volatile too. He's just as likely to get into a fight with a teammate as he is an opponent. He has a long history, one we want no part of.

Also, considering that he's unhappy with the 9 million that the Pacers have offered, I doubt that an offer of 7 or 8 million would catch his attention. He has the kind of gifts that might one day put him in the Hall of Fame and if he matures I wouldn't even rule out a few MVP's along the way. But the risk he'll explode or implode is just too great IMO.

Steve
 

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Boozer might bring some of that Chicago mentality to the valley. We could use it.

As far as Stephenson goes, I love the fact that he is such a great facilitator, and a pretty good defender, but he's too much of a knucklehead for my taste.
 

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Stephenson seems to have a lot of Ron Artest in him.
 
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No thanks on Stevenson. Dude is not that great but wants great player money. His attitude sucks too.
 

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 7m

Pat Riley and Erik Spoelstra are in L.A. meeting with free agents today. They've made inroads in talks, sources tell Yahoo. Still confident.


Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 29m

Unless Pat Riley lines up talent appealing to James within cap structure soon, one LBJ suitor says: "LeBron seems ready to explore market."

I think I already know how this story ends... Lebron stays in Miami as I always expected.
 

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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Another team official who met with James' agent, Rich Paul, in Cleveland tells Yahoo: "I think it's all a smoke screen."

He "ain'"t going anywhere. They are playing with the GMs & owners of NBA teams. This is so typical of Lebron and we all fall for it. :bang:

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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Another team official who met with James' agent, Rich Paul, in Cleveland tells Yahoo: "I think it's all a smoke screen."

He "ain'"t going anywhere. They are playing with the GMs & owners of NBA teams. This is so typical of Lebron and we all fall for it. :bang:

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Ok, I'm slow. How is it a smoke screen to meet with the teams? If it's to get Miami to build a better team, he doesn't have to meet with anyone, James just has to opt out and say he's going to move on if that doesn't happen. He gains nothing in his agent screening teams. Are they suggesting Riley wouldn't believe him? That's foolish, he opted out. Riley would have to be a freaking idiot not to believe him. James could also just agree to sign for 1 year in Miami and get them to sign Bosh and Wade to long term. Miami would suck for years after he left. He holds the cards and the "bluff" does not strengthen his position In fact it would piss off teams and his agent would have a hard time ever dealing with those front offices ever again. No he doesn't have a lot of players, but James can't play forever and if he plans on continuing his career he would be an idiot to play this claimed game that does nothing to up their position. Makes no sense to me.
 

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No thanks on Stevenson. Dude is not that great but wants great player money. His attitude sucks too.

I agree, plus I wasn't a big fan of his antics towards Lebron.
 

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Ok, I'm slow. How is it a smoke screen to meet with the teams? If it's to get Miami to build a better team, he doesn't have to meet with anyone, James just has to opt out and say he's going to move on if that doesn't happen. He gains nothing in his agent screening teams. Are they suggesting Riley wouldn't believe him? That's foolish, he opted out. Riley would have to be a freaking idiot not to believe him. James could also just agree to sign for 1 year in Miami and get them to sign Bosh and Wade to long term. Miami would suck for years after he left. He holds the cards and the "bluff" does not strengthen his position In fact it would piss off teams and his agent would have a hard time ever dealing with those front offices ever again. No he doesn't have a lot of players, but James can't play forever and if he plans on continuing his career he would be an idiot to play this claimed game that does nothing to up their position. Makes no sense to me.

As I view it, it's another version of "The Decision," hopefully without the telecast although the media will be all over it. Lebron liked the attention before, why not again?
 

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Stephenson was the only one who wanted "it" though in the conference finals, can't teach or impose that mentality. i'm not saying he's what we need right now though.
 

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